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Furious with DD's swimwear

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FFSTeenagers · 23/07/2024 17:53

Someone talk me down please!

On holiday with elderly parents and elderly in-laws - wonderful people. 15 yr old DD has emerged from her room to go to the pool in 5he smallest of bikinis. I can almost see her vagina.

I feel fucking ancient saying this. I hate myself for even feeling like this but she has zero modesty.

I bought her 3 bikinis (together - we went together) from Roxy and Next - lovely ones. Not one has arrived and instead she has bought, without my knowledge, 4 from shein that are not for her curvy build. Barely any material and I'm really embarrassed.

Confronting her has gone downhill rapidly and she's claiming that I'm hardly a feminist as 'she should be able to wear what she likes as it's her body'. She's not bloody wrong but what the hell happened to my daughter's modesty.

My parents and in-laws are sensing the atmosphere already and we only arrived an hour ago.

AIBU?

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Stoptherideiwanttogetoff24 · 23/07/2024 19:44

Doggymummar · 23/07/2024 18:06

I think it's awful to body shame her like that. She has eyes, there must be mirrors she can see how she looks. I was in Greece in early summer and was surprised how small bikinis were, but each to there own,

She didn’t shame her body ffs stop using phrases you clearly don’t understand. She didn’t comment on her daughter’s body. She said the clothing was inappropriate. She’s a child and her mother has every right. I’d take the offensive items away and replace them with acceptable ones. When she’s an adult paying for her yen holidays she can wear what see liked till then you pay, she’s a child, she follows your rules.

rwalker · 23/07/2024 19:45

Say your piece express your views and then move on
realistically what can you do

AngelusBell · 23/07/2024 19:45

YouJustDoYou · 23/07/2024 18:52

Sadly the world is not yet at the stage where a young girl, or any female, can go out wearing next to nothing safely.

Supervised by parents and grandmother?

WhistPie · 23/07/2024 19:45

Screamingabdabz · 23/07/2024 19:29

No one could see her vagina without a speculum and a torch. It’s vulva.

I vote YABU just because you need to learn the correct names for female body parts before admonishing your dd for showing them off.

And you're behaving like a sanctimonious, known it all, twat

crochetmonkey74 · 23/07/2024 19:46

I'm a teacher OP and fully support you. The pendulum has swung too far, and we can't tackle it at all.
At my school multiple staff have now brought up skimpy clothing on non uniform day and been told to not tackle , and the skirts are so short, multiple staff have flagged the fact we can literally see sanitary towels now as a matter of course. We were told to leave it alone. A lot of our girls and similar schools use public transport / tube home and its scary to think who is leering at them

Misthios · 23/07/2024 19:46

Mum to a teen DD and would be furious too. DD is older - almost 19 - and is off to the Med with a couple of friends later this week. She has bought a couple of bikinis which are twice the size of the examples linked.

https://www.prettylittlething.com/orange-flame-print-tie-side-bikini-bottoms.html

This sort of thing, and as DD is fairly flat-chested, they are not overly skimpy. And I wouldn't imagine DD and her friends will be doing any swimming, just sitting around the pool, dipping themselves but keeping their hair dry and make-up on.

She's 15 - a child - but thinks she knows it all. I'm not sure how I would have handled it at that age either OP, but I probably would have had a screaming row with her which would have ended in her sulking. She's bad enough when I insisted she use sunscreen. Depending on where you are, there must be either a shop where you can get more appropriate swimming gear, or a large scarf/sarong/wrap which she can wear.

Wishing you luck!!

CarmelaBrunella · 23/07/2024 19:47

It's hypersexualised for teenage girls. On non uniform day we had yr7 girls in crop tops, tiny shorts and halter tops. The boys were all in baggy jeans or joggers and loose tshirts. The 6th form girls are in those tight leggings with crop tops or boob tubes. It's not feminist, it's about presenting a sexualised image.

crochetmonkey74 · 23/07/2024 19:48

Ivehearditbothways · 23/07/2024 18:12

Do you know what a vagina is, OP? Because if you think you can see her vagina then I don’t think your know what one is.

Perhaps educate yourself on the female body before you start lecturing your daughter about how much of it she shows.

Oh shut up. You know what she means . Women lecturing other women about what they are allowed to say 🙄

katepilar · 23/07/2024 19:48

How could you possibly see her vagina?

gamerchick · 23/07/2024 19:48

Soontobe60 · 23/07/2024 18:02

OP, call her bluff - nick one of her illicit purchases and pop it on before swanning down to the pool.

Love this idea me.

crochetmonkey74 · 23/07/2024 19:49

CarmelaBrunella · 23/07/2024 19:47

It's hypersexualised for teenage girls. On non uniform day we had yr7 girls in crop tops, tiny shorts and halter tops. The boys were all in baggy jeans or joggers and loose tshirts. The 6th form girls are in those tight leggings with crop tops or boob tubes. It's not feminist, it's about presenting a sexualised image.

Yes! The boys are covered and baggy, the girls in smaller clothing than ever

BryanAdamsMuddyCassocks · 23/07/2024 19:49

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Frequency · 23/07/2024 19:49

Would I let my 15-year-old wear a bikini like the ones shown on here?

Yes, I have. They're 21 and 17 now but they still wear things I wish wouldn't. The 21 yo wanders around in actual underwear sometimes. I do joke with her a lot asking when she's going to put her dress/telling her I can see what she had for lunch on etc but I would never comment on her body shape, ever.

And if my Dad was embarrassed to look at them (not that he ever has been) I'd tell him to stop fucking looking and to stop sexualizing his own, underaged grandchildren.

AShortName · 23/07/2024 19:49

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 23/07/2024 19:36

The "Scandi" comments miss the point that full nudity is not sexualised. These bikinis are blatany, overtly and deliberately sexualised.

I’m glad you said this. Actually most of the Scandinavian teens I’ve seen are wearing much more modest bikinis. Nudity is not a bid deal and not sexualised in the same way, therefore the6 don’t seem to feel the need to wear overtly sexual bikinis. Just a normal bikini is fine. I see more arse cheeks in the uk than in the Scandinavian country we visit often. It markedly noticeable in the uk.

PerfectTravelTote · 23/07/2024 19:49

Soontobe60 · 23/07/2024 18:02

OP, call her bluff - nick one of her illicit purchases and pop it on before swanning down to the pool.

Brilliant idea!

MyCatHatesSandals · 23/07/2024 19:50

I am totally with you on this, @FFSTeenagers - but Mumsnet is the wrong place to post, really (and particularly AIBU) because bodily freedom apparently trumps reality. (Yes, I know that reality isn't fair and you want it to change. Life isn't fair, and it won't change.)

Yellowbananasarebetterthangreen · 23/07/2024 19:50

Take her shopping locally and buy more appropriate ones? At her expense definitely.
I wouldnt be happy with my daughter wearing something like that. Or being near anyone else that was, adult, teen or child.

Iloveyoubut · 23/07/2024 19:50

Can everyone stop discussing a 15 year old girl’s vagina! OP sorry but this Is awful posting this for discussion! Go and parent, get this thread taken down. That’s your daughter everyone is discussing here! Ffs I’m sorry but this is just hideous!

CarmelaBrunella · 23/07/2024 19:50

crochetmonkey74 · 23/07/2024 19:46

I'm a teacher OP and fully support you. The pendulum has swung too far, and we can't tackle it at all.
At my school multiple staff have now brought up skimpy clothing on non uniform day and been told to not tackle , and the skirts are so short, multiple staff have flagged the fact we can literally see sanitary towels now as a matter of course. We were told to leave it alone. A lot of our girls and similar schools use public transport / tube home and its scary to think who is leering at them

Sort of cross post - I agree. Our girls yr7-11 all seem to wear those tube skirts which are very tiny and very tight and just cover the arse.
Before anyone comes on saying they wore short skirts as a teen - things are fat worse now with phones and the Internet.

crochetmonkey74 · 23/07/2024 19:50

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Don't forget the ones who are quizzically 'confused' over and over again. Even though if this were true, they'd be dead thick and unable to gain meaning from context

Ottervision · 23/07/2024 19:50

Yellowbananasarebetterthangreen · 23/07/2024 19:50

Take her shopping locally and buy more appropriate ones? At her expense definitely.
I wouldnt be happy with my daughter wearing something like that. Or being near anyone else that was, adult, teen or child.

Being near them? Is it catching or?

AngelusBell · 23/07/2024 19:51

AzureBlue99 · 23/07/2024 19:25

There is a time and a place for various types of clothing. If the bikini is the type that have been shown on here, a family holiday is not it. It isn't about feminism. It's about respect for the company you are in. She is going to look like a trollop sitting amongst her grandparents. All these comments a ou it's only skin are just people trying to be down with the kids. She can wear what she likes when she is older.

She will, and she won’t let her Mum on her Instagram.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 23/07/2024 19:52

Frequency · 23/07/2024 19:49

Would I let my 15-year-old wear a bikini like the ones shown on here?

Yes, I have. They're 21 and 17 now but they still wear things I wish wouldn't. The 21 yo wanders around in actual underwear sometimes. I do joke with her a lot asking when she's going to put her dress/telling her I can see what she had for lunch on etc but I would never comment on her body shape, ever.

And if my Dad was embarrassed to look at them (not that he ever has been) I'd tell him to stop fucking looking and to stop sexualizing his own, underaged grandchildren.

Oh fgs the whole point of this type of bikini is pornified sexualisation.

crochetmonkey74 · 23/07/2024 19:52

CarmelaBrunella · 23/07/2024 19:50

Sort of cross post - I agree. Our girls yr7-11 all seem to wear those tube skirts which are very tiny and very tight and just cover the arse.
Before anyone comes on saying they wore short skirts as a teen - things are fat worse now with phones and the Internet.

Yes it's much worse . 25 years teaching and I've never seen it like it.

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