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Dd and her bf am I being too sensitive

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spanieleyes22 · 19/07/2024 09:29

So dd is 19 and her bf left last night after a 4 day visit. First time I met him. He seems nice very outgoing very confident. But I was left feeling a bit hurt as he seemed to want dd all to himself. Am probably being stupid. I think it's a slightly harder dynamic when you're a single parent or am I being stupid and over sensitive. Other boyfriends have always had dinner with us (me and ds) and have chatted to me a bit and maybe had a coffee with me (and ds and dd not just me lol) but this guy was very anxious to get dd alone. They had 1 dinner with us the night he arrived cos it was dd birthday and I was making a "special" tea. But other than that they had all their meals upstairs in her room. Just to say I'm not a bit clingy I was out at work 2 of the days 7-7 and working from home the other 2 days so I wasn't wanting to hang around with them. I asked about dinner every day just wanting to know but they made their own dinner and took it upstairs. One night it was around midnight they came in and cooked dinner. Ah look I'm easy going I do t mind. Just a couple of things yesterday . I was wfh and dd made coffee for us 3 and I assumed they would sit with me at the table as dd wanted to chat with me as we hadn't seen each other for a day or so due to me working and them being out. But I heard him say let's take it upstairs. He's not at all shy it's not that. I offered dd a lift to the station last night when he was leaving as it was very warm and she struggles with the heat but she asked him and he said ah no we can walk . Am being silly aren't I. Had a big cry last night as I feel like he's taking her away from us. Probably I just need to let go.

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Feelinadequate23 · 19/07/2024 11:24

OP he was very rude. Nobody likes being treated rudely in their own home, so that's why you were upset!

I'd take DD aside and say, he seems nice and I'm pleased to have met him but a) certain behaviours the two of you did were rude - next time, all meals downstairs and don't exclude your brother from group conversations. b) he seems a bit controlling, make sure he doesn't tread all over you DD and stand up for your wishes.

At 19 they're likely immature and lusting after one another so I wouldn't worry that she's be like this forever, but also you don't want to turn her against you, so don't be too heavy handed or weepy with her - just lay down the ground rules calmly and say you expect to be treated with more respect next time.

This relationship is very unlikely to last - I hope for your sake it ends sooner rather than later, but don't let DD know you think that way!

thecatsthecats · 19/07/2024 11:34

I'm thinking with my 19yo first-relationship head on.

I don't think they were that out of order, and I think your reaction could be a bit overbearing for your daughter.

When I was visiting my ILs at that age I was a lovestruck teenager who, no, did not want to join with the trip to Sainsbury's etc, or spend lots of time hanging out with his siblings. They're teens dating, not getting married. (Though come to think of it, DH did propose on that trip).

What puts us off is the overbearing "my baaaaaaaby is going" stuff. With my family it's easy-come-easy-go and we do some stuff together, some apart.

Whereas MIL actually locked us out of a shared villa so that we'd have to come out to join them one year on holiday.

I don't think this is the crime of the century. Set some ground rules if you must, maybe about the food. But if you make a big deal, what you fear might come to pass.

moonriverandme · 19/07/2024 11:35

I don't think you're overreacting. He sounds rude & arrogant. His behaviour is also controlling & possessive which is concerning. Would it be possible to talk to her on your own to find out how he behaves towards her?
If future visits occur, set out your house rules & pull him up on his rudeness if necessary, his reaction will tell you all you need to know.

Cozylozy · 19/07/2024 11:38

He’s rude and got no right to dictate where they eat

SallyWD · 19/07/2024 11:38

I think it sounds normal. I remember when I brought my 19 year old boyfriend home. We never hung out with my parents! We'd always be in my room. It didn't occur to me that my parents might actually find this hurtful.

SleepPrettyDarling · 19/07/2024 11:45

You are minimising your own feelings when you use the words needy, clingy and silly. He’s a guest in your house, and his manners are dreadful saying ‘will we take our coffee upstairs?’ leaving you feel like a lemon in your own house! They’ve had lots of private time with you out and about; he is not behaving like a good guest towards his host. Mi casa es mi casa.

Persiancouscous · 19/07/2024 11:48

When I was 19, I done exactly this, never crossed my mind it was rude. You are in your own bubble and used to being in a house share situation at uni and having your bedroomas your only personal space. I wouldn't take it personally, you get stuck in your rut

spanieleyes22 · 19/07/2024 11:49

SallyWD · 19/07/2024 11:38

I think it sounds normal. I remember when I brought my 19 year old boyfriend home. We never hung out with my parents! We'd always be in my room. It didn't occur to me that my parents might actually find this hurtful.

Yeh I think it's slightly different when it's just me and no husband . You were off wit your bf but they had each other? I suppose I felt a bit like a 3rd wheel which is what I am lol. Haven't felt it so keenly with other boyfriends though

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Cam29 · 19/07/2024 11:51

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What kind of response is that? So unhelpful and why does everything have to be about poor mental health… never heard of an instinct about something?!

Personally I do think this is a little bit concerning OP. Especially if you’ve said he’s not shy… you’ve clearly got a gut feeling about it so I’d just keep an eye. I probably wouldn’t mention anything to your daughter yet though as you don’t want to push her away if he does end up having controlling tendencies .. that might sound dramatic but in my experience with people like that you get a gut feeling and usually correct.

spanieleyes22 · 19/07/2024 11:56

KreedKafer · 19/07/2024 11:17

They’re young adults in the early stages of a relationship and they want a bit of privacy rather than family time. That’s normal.

Some people might think it’s rude that they ate upstairs etc but it sounds to me as if you just had really different expectations of the visit than they did. I don’t think that, at 19, my then boyfriend and I sat downstairs with my parents every evening when he came to stay. I think in your mind you are the one ‘hosting’ a guest, but in your DD’s mind, she is the one ‘hosting’ her boyfriend in the home she lives in, much like she would if she lived with a flatmate rather than her mother.

Either way, I think crying and being upset and thinking he’s taking her away from you is quite an extreme reaction. Unless you genuinely think he’s somehow abusive, but nothing you’ve said in your first post suggests that’s the case.

Yeh to be fair though I didn't expect or want to hang out with them lol. I have my own life and do my own thing. Just felt a bit ignored a few times I suppose. But yeh I don't think I will say anything to dd. Possibly if he plans another visit I might say something about eating downstairs for the most part. I definitely don't want to come across emotional or clingy I want her to have her own life I think I've been pretty good this last year. I've never said anything about her not contacting me for weeks even though I was worried . Actually I realize it's since she met him she stopped contacting me. I am a little worried as she said he was telling her how he and his mother didn't have a great relationship and she said I was her best friend - yeh she is sweet- maybe he feels a bit insecure around me I dunno

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elastamum · 19/07/2024 11:57

I'm not surprised you were upset. He was really rude to you in your home. The odd coffee upstairs is fine, but just walking off with food when you are a guest in someone's house is rude.

theleafandnotthetree · 19/07/2024 12:01

Qwertys · 19/07/2024 10:21

Going against the grain here, I really don’t think you should bring this up. If you start putting in ground rules like other posters are suggesting they will just stop staying with you. They are adults and want to manage their time their own way. At the same time, they are still immature and perhaps don’t have all the social awareness they will develop in the next few years.

Let them enjoy their youth and their love without trying to insert yourself into it. Of course he wants DD all to himself. He’s probably obsessed with her, as is normal for first love. Don’t make it about you when it really isn’t.

Fuck that, they are staying in the OP's home and behaving very rudely and creating an odd and awkward atmosphere, the OP has every right to put in ground rules if she wishes. As to the 'well I you say anything, you'll push them together more' angle, I agree that's a risk in these kind of scenarios but if she doesn't say anything, the daughter may not wake up and smell the coffee and think his behaviour is OK and normal or worse, a sign of just how much he loves her.

FlappyBirb · 19/07/2024 12:02

spanieleyes22 · 19/07/2024 09:51

That's interesting. I was trying to work out why I felt upset but couldn't put my finger on it. I mean look I'm an adult I don't want to hang out with them . It was more a feeling that he wanted her all for himself. He talked to her directly at the meal about people me and dad don't know and if I tried to join in he just kinda ignored what I said. Like I say it's hard to work out why I'm upset

I agree with @ErickBroch . You aren't overreacting at all, she's gone to Uni and had other boyfriends so you're clearly not smothering her, but this young man comes into your home and makes a concerted effort to reject you from your daughter's time and attention.

No matter what my level of intimacy with someone, whether friend, partner or colleague, to go to somebody's family home and ignore their family members, deliberately take my food and drink away into another room where they couldn't follow, then not say goodbye to them: these are extremely rude and unusual behaviours! You aren't being silly, you're trying to bury your very reasonable issues with this to be nice to your daughter (understandable). See if she's able to have a casual chat with you about how she felt about him and the visit.

Good luck, OP.

willWillSmithsmith · 19/07/2024 12:03

Geiyotue · 19/07/2024 09:38

He's rude. Meals should be downstairs, and communal. He should talk to you, yes.

Have a word with your DD and tell her that next time he comes he needs to be polite and that meals need to be downstairs.

He's an adult, he should know how to behave.

Communal meals can be absolutely cringe and awkward at that age. As teens my kids were allowed to eat in their rooms with friends and sort their own meals if they wished. Relaxed and informal were very much the vibe at home.

Yes some basic manners should be expected but no more than a cheery hello/goodbye.

I’m sure if he comes over more often they’ll relax a bit more around you.

theleafandnotthetree · 19/07/2024 12:05

spanieleyes22 · 19/07/2024 11:56

Yeh to be fair though I didn't expect or want to hang out with them lol. I have my own life and do my own thing. Just felt a bit ignored a few times I suppose. But yeh I don't think I will say anything to dd. Possibly if he plans another visit I might say something about eating downstairs for the most part. I definitely don't want to come across emotional or clingy I want her to have her own life I think I've been pretty good this last year. I've never said anything about her not contacting me for weeks even though I was worried . Actually I realize it's since she met him she stopped contacting me. I am a little worried as she said he was telling her how he and his mother didn't have a great relationship and she said I was her best friend - yeh she is sweet- maybe he feels a bit insecure around me I dunno

I think you are being hard on yourself and frankly too easy on your daughter. I would consider not contacting you for weeks to be very very poor and I certainly would have said something about that. And then the antics with this clown? Fuck that, you don't need to be so much the cool mum, you sound like a great and very understanding person but that shouldn't segue into being a walkover.

Inspireme2 · 19/07/2024 12:08

Ask them to eat at the table.
Nothing u healthy about keeping a good repore with your daughter over a coffee.
He needs to be polite and considerate while in your home.
If I was 19 I would want to take off and snuggle up with my bf or hang out together as I did back then myself.
It is part of them growing up and having a life independent of parents.

willWillSmithsmith · 19/07/2024 12:09

spanieleyes22 · 19/07/2024 11:49

Yeh I think it's slightly different when it's just me and no husband . You were off wit your bf but they had each other? I suppose I felt a bit like a 3rd wheel which is what I am lol. Haven't felt it so keenly with other boyfriends though

I’m a single parent too but to be honest I can’t relate. It’s easy come easy go in my house. I’ve always had an open door policy with my kids friends/gfs they can come and go as they please.

theleafandnotthetree · 19/07/2024 12:10

theleafandnotthetree · 19/07/2024 12:01

Fuck that, they are staying in the OP's home and behaving very rudely and creating an odd and awkward atmosphere, the OP has every right to put in ground rules if she wishes. As to the 'well I you say anything, you'll push them together more' angle, I agree that's a risk in these kind of scenarios but if she doesn't say anything, the daughter may not wake up and smell the coffee and think his behaviour is OK and normal or worse, a sign of just how much he loves her.

I disagree, how low is the bar? If they are adults with everything that is associated with the freedoms of that, then they need to meet some basic standards of civilised behaviour. My children are mid teens, peak age for cringe but if friends are here at meal times now then they are eaten as normal family meals together. I would feel I had raised my children poorly if they got to 19 or 20 and behaved as the Op's daughters boyfriend (and daughter herself) had behaved.

Soonenough · 19/07/2024 12:19

I had this with my daughters uni BF . I think they were living like semi adults away and found it strange to be back in childhood home adhering to previous routines . BF was a bit awkward, later found out he felt intimidated by our different standard of living , my way of speaking directly I think. They did retreat to the room a lot too. I did comment on it to my daughter privately and she begged for me to give him a chance .

Happy to say , 6 years later , he is a very welcome visitor in our home , huge part of our lives and turned out to be a kind loving partner to our daughter.

theworldsmad · 19/07/2024 12:20

spanieleyes22 · 19/07/2024 09:35

Yes you're right she is his first serious girlfriend. It was other things too like the first night at dinner he wanted to talk exclusively to dd. At some points me and da were just looking at them feeling a bit excluded. Ah I'm probably being silly they are just in love I guess! And he didn't say goodbye to ds which bugged me. Hardly said goodbye to me just called out from the hall.

Nah, that's bad manners. You speak to everyone at a table. You also make effort with anyone you meet for the first time, especially if they're hosting you in their home. it doesn't matter if it is your girlfriends parents or someone random seated beside you at a dinner party.
I honestly wouldn't feel "he's taking her away from us" That's neither here nor there ( and yes, immature thinking, sorry op - children moving on is part of life- and a good thing). I expect basic manner from anyone entering my home

Yougetmoreofwhatyoufocuson · 19/07/2024 12:25

He was rude and lacking in basic life skills. It’s your house too and good manners are essential for everyone to be comfortable, not just the precious young people.

Cincin22 · 19/07/2024 12:29

@spanieleyes22 You are not being overly sensitive. Sure they're young, but even kids younger than that have basic manners when they visit someone's home. Chatting, offering to help out, saying thank you etc..

Don't say anything to dd, but keep your connection with her strong. I agree that bf might be controlling and manipulative for her attention. A good partner embraces ALL of you. They will ask your family for funny stories about you, or try and impress your mun/brother so that you can see them fitting into your life.
A healthy partner does not want to isolate you from everyone else.

2dogsandabudgie · 19/07/2024 12:39

Some teenagers are more mature than others. I was an immature teenager and I remember hating every minute of having to talk to my boyfriend's parents at that age. It just felt so awkward. Couldn't wait until we were alone. I was definitely not controlling, just quite shy and found it hard to make small talk, so this wouldn't bother me.

I remember when my daughter brought her first boyfriend home, I gave them the choice of eating upstairs or with us and they chose upstairs. It was just more relaxed. As we got to know him they would eat with us more. They're married now and I couldn't ask for a nicer son in law.

Leanmeansmitingmachine · 19/07/2024 12:40

He sounds rude as shit and you sound very, very meek.

It’s your house. Lay some ground rules with your daughter.

Pookerrod · 19/07/2024 12:41

I think it’s probably more to do with his upbringing. My kids know how to behave in other people’s houses as I have brought them up to know this. Such as if you are invited to stay somewhere for the weekend you take a gift. Always talk to your host, eat with your host if invited to. Thank host when leaving and follow up with thank you letter. We have a rule in this house of no eating in bedrooms.

I wouldn’t over-react on this occasion as he is young and has been brought up with different values. But I’d probably speak to your DD in advance of him visiting again. So she can train him a little bit.