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Friend won’t take the hint about my house

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SlovenlyOldSlut · 17/07/2024 09:56

I have a good friend who I met about six years ago, but only really became very friendly with during lockdown, as I was furloughed and she was caring for her sick father, meaning that as two single people, we had a lot of time for messaging and video calls.

As we live on opposite sides of London, we’ve always met centrally or in specific locations rather than visiting one another’s homes. She’s never been to my place; I’ve been to hers once when she had a tribute evening for her father after he died. That was something everyone she knew was invited to; she’s never invited me there one on one. This hasn’t ever been an issue for me, as there’s no point in either of us trekking across the city unless there’s a real reason to go to the other’s house (e.g. a party).

However, lately she has developed a real bugbear about not having been to my house. At every opportunity, it’s “I can’t believe I still haven’t been to your place! We need to sort out a time”. We’ll be making plans for something else and she’ll throw in, “Yeah, let’s do that - and we need to sort out when I’m coming round to yours too! I really want to see your place!” We were looking at an event near to me and it was, “Ooh, great - and I can see your house too! As I STILL haven’t seen it…” (complete with mock hurt face).

Now, I struggle with housework at the best of times. I don’t like mess, but I just get overwhelmed. However, at the moment it’s worse for a variety of reasons. A relative is storing some stuff here while they’re abroad, so I have less space. Everything seems to be breaking at once too. I’ve just bought a new washing machine, so I’m behind with laundry; the fridge freezer is about to die; plus the hob is now taking turns between either refusing to light at all or taking my bloody eyebrows off. The whole house needs time and money spending on it before I’m ready for guests.

I have TOLD my friend this. I tell her every time she brings it up. I’ve been completely honest about why I’m not ready for guests at the moment and have said I’m going to have a party at some point (realistically Christmas) once everything is a bit straighter. She isn’t listening. It’s always “Awwh, I don’t mind; you should see the mess my place is in sometimes!” - or worse “But I could help you! I love tidying up; it’s my thing, I’ll help!” The latter is my worst nightmare - I let another friend “help” once after she made a big thing about being a big declutterer and I wanted to cry within about five minutes.

AIBU to think she needs to respect my feelings for the moment? It’s not about her not being welcome; I don’t want anyone here at the moment. And it’s not like I’m around there every week and never return the hospitality - like I say, I’ve only been there once. I feel like I need to say that this topic is off limits until I say otherwise, even at the risk of offending her, because it’s becoming stressful having to fend this off every time we meet.

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Apolloneuro · 24/07/2024 14:09

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Tut tut tut. All that nasty judging again.

T1Dmama · 24/07/2024 14:12

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Apolloneuro · 24/07/2024 14:13

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Cool comeback. 👍

Apolloneuro · 24/07/2024 14:16

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Oh and actually whilst you’re looking up ‘irony’ check out the difference between opinion and fact.

It is your opinion that I am a troll. It cannot be defined as a fact.

T1Dmama · 24/07/2024 14:20

Apolloneuro · 24/07/2024 14:16

Oh and actually whilst you’re looking up ‘irony’ check out the difference between opinion and fact.

It is your opinion that I am a troll. It cannot be defined as a fact.

Ok.. maybe you need to learn to count because ‘I’ve only commented twice’ is 2 not 4 or 5!

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PipMumsnet · 24/07/2024 15:16

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Apolloneuro · 24/07/2024 15:52

i haven’t reported anything, for the record.

OP, I hope your friend listens to you and I hope you get things sorted in your house.

JoBoJoBo · 24/07/2024 17:22

What is stopping you from decluttering or hoarding .Put things for charity in a bag, things to throw out then things to sell.Get a skip if needed and a cleaner for a deep clean .If you procrastinate the house will only get worse.If your appliances are broken just get them fixed or replace them .Currys will deliver new cookers and I stall them and remove the old one .

JoBoJoBo · 24/07/2024 17:24

BeckiBoBecki · 23/07/2024 23:37

She offered to help you, you accepted. She arrived and tried to start decluttering and you, by the sounds of it, had a mini panic attack.

Are you an anxious person in general?

Agree the friend was being helpful throwing out out of date food and preventing food poisoning.

SlovenlyOldSlut · 24/07/2024 17:25

JoBoJoBo · 24/07/2024 17:22

What is stopping you from decluttering or hoarding .Put things for charity in a bag, things to throw out then things to sell.Get a skip if needed and a cleaner for a deep clean .If you procrastinate the house will only get worse.If your appliances are broken just get them fixed or replace them .Currys will deliver new cookers and I stall them and remove the old one .

Are you paying for this?

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SlovenlyOldSlut · 23/07/2024 23:52

Telling me I live in a “shithole” is an utterly vile thing to say. Look at yourself in the mirror and see if you’re proud of that appalling comment - assuming it doesn’t crack.

You’re not only rude, you’re ignorant. What am I “blaming” my friend for? My lack of enthusiasm for housework? I don’t see how I’ve blamed her for that in any way. I’ve just asked her to stop pushing the point. And no, I didn’t ask for “feedback”. Obviously I can’t stop people from making banal comments like “Just tidy up and invite her over, it’s normal” - but I certainly never asked for them. I’m more than happy with my decision to say no; what I asked for was views on whether I should be firm and blunt with this.

Op your user name is slovenly slut so you acknowledge you have an unkempt house.

JoBoJoBo · 24/07/2024 17:37

SlovenlyOldSlut · 24/07/2024 17:25

Are you paying for this?

It's your stuff to sort out take responsibility.If you ever end up in hospital the sw will order a deep clean and declutter for sure.

SlovenlyOldSlut · 24/07/2024 17:37

And your username is JoBoJoBo. Does that make you Boris Johnson?

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SlovenlyOldSlut · 24/07/2024 17:38

JoBoJoBo · 24/07/2024 17:37

It's your stuff to sort out take responsibility.If you ever end up in hospital the sw will order a deep clean and declutter for sure.

You’re just inventing scenarios now. No one was ever assigned a social worker because they’re a bit untidy.

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SlovenlyOldSlut · 24/07/2024 17:41

JoBoJoBo · 24/07/2024 17:37

It's your stuff to sort out take responsibility.If you ever end up in hospital the sw will order a deep clean and declutter for sure.

I wasn’t suggesting it was anyone’s responsibility other than my own. But you were very quick to say “Just buy a new cooker, just hire a skip, just get a deep clean done” - none of these things are free.

As it happens, I’m in a decent financial position at the moment, so am making sure I replace things as and when I can. I’m not going to get myself into debt to do it though.

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SlovenlyOldSlut · 24/07/2024 17:44

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If I’m lazy, that’s entirely my business.

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usersuserse · 24/07/2024 17:55

I haven't read the whole thread but there is nothing wrong with saying

"I'm sorry but I don't entertain at home. I'm happy return hospitality by taking you out for dinner but I just don't have people round'.

I don't have people round either in my case its partly becauase I don' t have the space and partly because I live in a big city and I'd rather go out and partly because I just don't like having people round. People are irritating and once they are in your house its difficult to get them out!

I've never had anyone make this kind of fuss. She's just being nosey so I'd just say to her sorry I don't have people round without a reason.

Cornishclio · 24/07/2024 19:37

I have never been in this situation but if you aren't comfortable having your friend over just tell her that you don't want guests in your home but you are happy to meet her elsewhere. As she lives the other side of London it makes sense to meet halfway. If she still persists enough to maker it look like she is over riding your wish not to have her over just stop meeting her. It is not difficult. Any friend who made it clear they weren't listening and their wishes over ride yours would be ignored by me.

MauveExpert · 24/07/2024 19:42

I live in Edinburgh and tend not to have friends over very much (if ever). I have a nice flat which I keep fairly clean so that’s not the problem, I just don’t socialise that way generally. I like meeting pals out for a coffee or brunch and my home space is for chilling.

This seems quite common in my city and I can count on one hand the amount of friends houses I visited over the years.
Maybe it’s different if you’ve got kids (we are child free)
I also think it’s cultural- Edinburgh folks can be slightly reserved sometimes. I’ve noticed people from other countries tend to host more

SnappyBiscuit · 24/07/2024 20:54

she needs to respect your boundaries.

for those saying it’s odd she hasn’t invited her round… there are many reasons people don’t like visitors.
I have never seen inside my mums or sisters houses, as they are ocd and can’t deal with visitors.
I am happy to have visitors, but am very embarrassed if the house is untidy, even though it wouldn’t bother me the other way round.

at the end of the day, it’s not polite to invite yourself to someone’s house, let alone practically force it!! Very rude.

JoBoJoBo · 24/07/2024 21:24

SlovenlyOldSlut · 24/07/2024 17:38

You’re just inventing scenarios now. No one was ever assigned a social worker because they’re a bit untidy.

If a PT lives in a filthy house and is unsafe they often order a clean and clear so you are wrong .

SlovenlyOldSlut · 24/07/2024 23:00

No, I am NOT wrong. Where have I ever said, anywhere, that my house is “filthy” and “unsafe”. As I said, you're just inventing scenarios here.

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