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OK, I need to explain about adrenalin.....

195 replies

sixtyandsomething · 14/07/2024 07:20

It really bugs me when people on MN talk rubbish, and when they don't know simple science - and I KNOW everyone in the country has been taught this, as it is in the GCSE double award, which is the minimum amount of science that is compulsory in England.

It is called fright, flight or fight.

After a scare or injury, you are flooded with adrenalin, which is a hormone that diverts blood from digestion, immune system and other non critical systems. Blood rushes to heart and lungs, getting oxygen into muscles double speed, giving you more power and strength short term than your body can sustain longer term. You don't feel pain, you feel energy and aggression.

Yes, if you are shot in the ear, you first and most natural response is likely to be defiance and retaliation, pushing away security, ignoring danger, gestures of defiance or triumph.

I don't like the man, and I may even be a little bit sorry he wasn't hurt worse, but his reaction is not "unnatural" or "looks staged" or "obviously planned and acted" -on the contrary, it is entirely as you would expect.

OP posts:
Werweisswohin · 14/07/2024 11:28

YellowphantGrey · 14/07/2024 11:13

The OP has a double Science gcse. She IS an expert...

😬😬😬😬😬

DietrichandDiMaggio · 14/07/2024 11:35

sixtyandsomething · 14/07/2024 09:30

ok, whatever, everyone under 55 has done this in GCSE science, everyone over 55 has done this in what was called 3rd year science, it really doesn't matter, the point is people have studied this in school, but some posters either don't remember, or remember but don't understand, or remember and understand but can't use it in real life..

not everyone, obviously - I expect that most of the population do understand this, but it is of great concern when a topic arising on MN and a basic, simple piece of science that you would expect to be universally understood, is shown to be completely misunderstood, in post after post after post

Why do you suppose that most people would remember what they did in 3rd year at school over 40 years ago? I would guess for most people the knowledge of the effects of adrenaline have probably never been needed, and would not expect it to be universally understood, and I think 'great concern' is a bit of an overreaction to that.

Fraa · 14/07/2024 11:41

You're wrong OP and doubling down and saying it's just semantics doesn't help.

Fright is the cause, flight and fight are the effects. Your made-up phrase lumping them all in together doesn't help anyone.

Regarding Trump, I'm sure he has previously thought through how to react to a public assassination attempt where he isn't hurt (or a minor injury). And that would be to be 'masculine' and grandiose. Once over the initial shock he would have gone to this reaction, probably aided by the adrenaline.

Moier · 14/07/2024 11:45

That is wrong for a start.
I did NOT do GCSE's .. l did O levels and it was not taught.
My family are / was mostly home educated.
But of course we do know this.. because the majority of us .. find things out for ourselves.. but not everyone does.
Don't know who you are trying to be antagonistic towards.
But calm down and enjoy your Sunday.

OK, I need to explain about adrenalin.....
Gingerdancedbackwards · 14/07/2024 11:45

whathasitgottodowiththepriceofoliveoil · 14/07/2024 09:54

Is there a science forum?

Chat would suffice

Fourfurrymonsters · 14/07/2024 11:47

adrenaline

BingoMarieHeeler · 14/07/2024 11:50

If the words don’t matter and it’s just semantics then I can tell my kid to write fuck, feed and flail on their test then and they’ll still get marks, yeah?

EmpressaurusDeiGatti · 14/07/2024 11:57

SoupDragon · 14/07/2024 09:34

everyone over 55 has done this in what was called 3rd year science, it really doesn't matter, the point is people have studied this in school, but some posters either don't remember, or remember but don't understand, or remember and understand but can't use it in real life..

I wasn't taught it. I have never heard of "3rd year science" either. What is that?

I’m 50 & the only science GCSE I did was Physics.

FeelingSoOverwhelmed · 14/07/2024 11:58

I think YABU. Understanding the science in theory and recognising it in practice (or practise? Oops) are two different things. So it's possible to understand the concept of flight/fright/freeze and then find it difficult to make sense of in reality.

Also as someone who grew up outside England and teaches outside England, the proclamation that "everyone knows this because it's taught in GCSE" probably got people's backs up as it seemed like you were referring to the GCSE double science as being some kind of global standard. There is a whole world outside England you know 🤣

BobbyBiscuits · 14/07/2024 12:17

@YellowphantGrey Fair enough. For some reason I thought they'd dropped it. Maybe in some circumstances if the kid struggles they let them only do maths and English? God knows.
I got a C for triple science and I don't remember anything about fight or flight. It was much more boring than that!?

Tumblingjungleofchaos · 14/07/2024 12:20

MN is a global forum, not just for England.

Adrenaline has an E on the end.

YellowphantGrey · 14/07/2024 12:21

BobbyBiscuits · 14/07/2024 12:17

@YellowphantGrey Fair enough. For some reason I thought they'd dropped it. Maybe in some circumstances if the kid struggles they let them only do maths and English? God knows.
I got a C for triple science and I don't remember anything about fight or flight. It was much more boring than that!?

My child's just finished their gcses. There's also gcse options where you can pick the single sciences and get 3 seperate grades whereas the required science is 2 grades. The single sciences are for those who enjoy and are good at it so want to study it more in depth.

I've just asked my child about flight or fight and adrenalin and how's it covered and he replied "err I don't know, can't remember. Think I did that in pe" so this is a 16 year old whosr just finished his learning, sat his exams and predicted 8s and 9s for pe and science 😂😂

Werweisswohin · 14/07/2024 12:21

Tumblingjungleofchaos · 14/07/2024 12:20

MN is a global forum, not just for England.

Adrenaline has an E on the end.

First point, yes.
Second point, it doesn't always have an E.

Tumblingjungleofchaos · 14/07/2024 12:25

no, you would get the mark - because it is correct. GCSE marker here

Of course you are! Confused

Rewq · 14/07/2024 12:30

The focus on the shoes and the fist in the air type thing is something I can relate to, years ago I was stabbed and I was so concerned about where my hat was and was also laughing and being like not too bad not too bad! When the adrenaline is pumping, it’s a crazy thing and you’re not your most rational or realising how bad the situation is at first.

Savoydone · 14/07/2024 12:57

I’m under 55, educated in England and didn’t take GCSEs.

Stillavictim · 14/07/2024 13:13

'Trump and the roll of adrenaline in defiant gestures'
Does breaking wind count as one of the fight/fright/flight responses😀?

BobbyBiscuits · 14/07/2024 14:05

@YellowphantGrey haha. Classic. Yeah, I would be surprised if an adult could remember when a bright child who (may have) studied it months ago can't? 😄

RhiWrites · 14/07/2024 14:11

I’m 47. I did single science GCSE. So you’re wrong about that, OP.

Also it’s unlikely that ppl retain everything they’re taught in school.

gardenmusic · 14/07/2024 15:24

Stillavictim · Today 13:13
'Trump and the roll of adrenaline in defiant gestures'
Does breaking wind count as one of the fight/fright/flight responses

Only if you call it farting.

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