OK, I need to explain about adrenalin.....

[sixtyandsomething]

It really bugs me when people on MN talk rubbish, and when they don't know simple science - and I KNOW everyone in the country has been taught this, as it is in the GCSE double award, which is the minimum amount of science that is compulsory in England.

It is called fright, flight or fight.

After a scare or injury, you are flooded with adrenalin, which is a hormone that diverts blood from digestion, immune system and other non critical systems. Blood rushes to heart and lungs, getting oxygen into muscles double speed, giving you more power and strength short term than your body can sustain longer term. You don't feel pain, you feel energy and aggression.

Yes, if you are shot in the ear, you first and most natural response is likely to be defiance and retaliation, pushing away security, ignoring danger, gestures of defiance or triumph.

I don't like the man, and I may even be a little bit sorry he wasn't hurt worse, but his reaction is not "unnatural" or "looks staged" or "obviously planned and acted" -on the contrary, it is entirely as you would expect.

Some folk educated in the UK don't do GCSEs. We don't all live where OP lives.

Your potted understanding of science is showing, and you assume to lecture others. Pffft.

I think the concentrating on his shoes was the normal response, seen plenty of people in really serious medical emergency type situations who become fixated on the most bizarre things. I think the fist pumping and shouting 'fight' were Donald the politician, he knew the shooter was dead at this point.
I did feel sorry for his security people , trying to safely hustle him off the podium and him keeping popping up amongst them !

You seem to be a science teacher and are therefore interested in science. That’s bloody marvellous!

I am not a science teacher and couldn’t give a shiney shite. Hope that helps.

ps no GCSEs here.

Why does it matter? I didn’t do ‘gcse’ double gold bells ans whistles science and for me and most it will have been such a long time ago unless you use it daily who remembers or cares? To the point you need to post about it like some superior being and we are all stupid? The fact you state ‘the whole country’ does GCSEs suggests you know little

The total misunderstanding of simple principles that everyone has heard in school

not everyone has done gcse double science, you've been told this multiple times and you are still going in about it

this subject is interesting but this specific thing is what people are talking about

Fawn is where you have an opportunity to smooth talk a situation, try everything to please the aggressor in order to reduce the potential for violence, make deals with them, try to get them to calm down etc. It’s direct engagement with the aim of surviving

yeeeeeesss, because eithr is correct..... it is just a phrase to help you remember what is happening....as long as you remember what it means, you can use either, or any of many different alternatives....

This is the point I am making - people having factual recall, but not understanding the facts they are recalling..

Dear me OP. Firstly, I have no memory of covering adrenaline in my GCSEs. They were thirty years ago. Also not everyone did GCSEs, or even double science - people only one year older than my grand old age of mid-forties could study a single science and my parents who are not yet eighty could opt out of science altogether.

Finally, please change your thread title. I clicked on it l because I thought it was about the adrenaline response which I am interested in. Not interested in Trump squabbles.

I think we are kinda saying the same thing here. However I will acknowledge that I did not specify that not everyone in the UK takes GCSEs I think that is your beef with my post. I am aware of that.

I was more reacting to her assumption everyone on mn would have had the same education.

You're a little bit sorry he wasn't hurt more?!

Would you have preferred he had been killed?

I'm glad you're putting your double science gcse to use though, so many people waste their qualifications but not you, you go girl!

People also exist in Scotland and Ireland where GCSE is not and never has been a thing.

ok, whatever, everyone under 55 has done this in GCSE science, everyone over 55 has done this in what was called 3rd year science, it really doesn't matter, the point is people have studied this in school, but some posters either don't remember, or remember but don't understand, or remember and understand but can't use it in real life..

not everyone, obviously - I expect that most of the population do understand this, but it is of great concern when a topic arising on MN and a basic, simple piece of science that you would expect to be universally understood, is shown to be completely misunderstood, in post after post after post

Hence I said ENGLAND

(edited to say, but it is covered in science curriculums all around the world - and certainly in all parts of the UK)

but it is of great concern when a topic arising on MN and a basic, simple piece of science that you would expect to be universally understood, is shown to be completely misunderstood, in post after post after post

would not disagree with this

everyone under 55 has done this in GCSE science

Incorrect.

no... I don't want him killed, but out of action for a little while would be nice! Not that that is the point of the thread. The point is people are arguing that this was not genuine, because his reaction was not genuine, I am pointing out that his reaction was 100% authentic - and no, I don't really care much if he was acting or genuine, I do care about people not understanding basic science, that everyone should know, and is important

everyone over 55 has done this in what was called 3rd year science, it really doesn't matter, the point is people have studied this in school, but some posters either don't remember, or remember but don't understand, or remember and understand but can't use it in real life..

I wasn't taught it. I have never heard of "3rd year science" either. What is that?

everyone over 55 has done this in what was called 3rd year science

Still nope.

I probably do have my biology notebook in the loft somewhere, but I'll bet you that in amongst the frogspawn, diagrams of xylem and phloem and a rather detailed cross-sectional drawing of a willy, there isn't anything on adrenaline.

Why not this one?

It's a better plan to introduce your subject, rather than rant at people for 'not remembering' something that they quite possibly were never taught.

It's quite a skill to do this without sounding patronising (former science journalist here. PhD etc etc).

If you're doing a TAAT can you at least put the subject matter in the thread title?

I don't 'have beef" with your post. 😬

NO THEY HAVEN'T.

You actually said the country. Which isn't just England.