OK, I need to explain about adrenalin.....

[sixtyandsomething]

It really bugs me when people on MN talk rubbish, and when they don't know simple science - and I KNOW everyone in the country has been taught this, as it is in the GCSE double award, which is the minimum amount of science that is compulsory in England.

It is called fright, flight or fight.

After a scare or injury, you are flooded with adrenalin, which is a hormone that diverts blood from digestion, immune system and other non critical systems. Blood rushes to heart and lungs, getting oxygen into muscles double speed, giving you more power and strength short term than your body can sustain longer term. You don't feel pain, you feel energy and aggression.

Yes, if you are shot in the ear, you first and most natural response is likely to be defiance and retaliation, pushing away security, ignoring danger, gestures of defiance or triumph.

I don't like the man, and I may even be a little bit sorry he wasn't hurt worse, but his reaction is not "unnatural" or "looks staged" or "obviously planned and acted" -on the contrary, it is entirely as you would expect.

There isn't one :(

On Mumsnet I am constantly amazed by the amount of learning that is available.

Absolutely! Mumsnet has saved me money, made money for me and taught me how to do things I could not do before.
The common denominator was the kindness and wisdom, though, rather than self important 'you people' ranting and condescension shown by OP.

Most scientists are experts in a specific area, though will have a more broad general knowledge of other related topics. I wouldn't dream of starting a lecturing 'you should know' post tbh. I learnt all about Adrenaline, in detail, while doing my undergraduate degree - it featured only briefly at school.

Adrenalin is an accepted variant spelling of adrenaline. Something to do with drug patents.

Love: an English teacher (with AA in Double Science, 1996 and B in Biology A Level, 1998).

Happy to educate you as well, adrenalin can be spelt with or without an e at the end. The first use of adrenalinE was the branded version by Pfizer.

I know that, being an "expert" myself. But say a topic where someone could say "why do I automatically want to punch someone when I get threatened by something" and then the science could be discussed

I didn't even think science GCSE was compulsory anymore? Plus why the hell would someone remember stuff they learned 30 plus years ago.

Adrenaline has an E on the end. Hth

Exactly. Basic maths. I am also under 55. The first GCSE exams were in the summer term of 1988. Considering the cut off for school intake was anyone born up to 31st August 1971, some people who sat O Levels and CSEs are still 52.

It doesn't always.

and I KNOW everyone in the country has been taught this, as it is in the GCSE double award, which is the minimum amount of science that is compulsory in England.

No such thing as GCSE Double award (whatever the fuck that is), when I was at school (CSE's and O levels back then), so no not "everyone in the country" was taught about it. We were taught not to lecture on things we knew nothing about though....guess that had stopped when you started school.

of course not..........I eye rolled.

Kind of does matter.

When you start a thread to 'educate' people, getting the terminology correct and fully explaining the thing you are claiming people need to know about is rather important.

Why does it matter so much to you. Most people are only interested in the use of adrenaline in how it saves lives and epipens.

Could have been a useful OP about why Trump reacted like he did, rather than a condescending put down.

I find it particularly sad when ‘teachers’ treat people who don’t know something with such disdain. I also think it’s why the OP was unable to admit they’d made a whoopsy. They dug a hole for themselves and it distracted from an interesting topic.

of course not..........I eye rolled

Far more elegant!
There should be a snorting icon.

everyone over 55 has done this in what was called 3rd year science,

No we really didn't.

edited to say, but it is covered in science curriculums all around the world - and certainly in all parts of the UK)

Wrong again! DS did Scottish Standard grades where single sciences were offered. The only one he did was physics. In the midsts of time I did O level biology but adrenaline most definitely wasn’t on the syllabus.

😂

everyone under 55 has done this in GCSE science

I'm 54 and did O levels, so your statement is incorrect.

I was watching the news last night when the shooting happened. SM was instantly filled with theories about it being a set up based on Trump's response. This could have been a really interesting discussion about trauma response. But the OP's somewhat patronising tone derailed from the topic immediately.

Plus, I’m under 55 and there were no GCSE’s available in my area (in England) for any student. Every single person in my year group had ‘O’ levels and CSEs.

That makes sense if the first GCSE exams were taken in 1988. The youngest candidate would presumably be around 52!

Maths, English and Combined science all compulsory here.

You are absolutely correct.

Whether we like him is irrelevant. Those who are saying his reaction was "unnatural" or "seems staged" don't understand how one can respond in those sorts of situations.

The OP has a double Science gcse. She IS an expert...

Fawn and freeze is not the same. Fawn, also known as appease will describe when someone senses danger and they play along, make light of it.. or whatever until they can get away.

So for example if a man in a bar is being a nuisance you may see a woman laughing along at what he's saying and trying to look on the surface like she's not rejecting him, as being rejected could escalate things. Her body language might be saying otherwise and at the same time she's calculating in her mind how next to extract herself.

Women in particular are socialized to tend toward fawn and freeze.