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OK, I need to explain about adrenalin.....

195 replies

sixtyandsomething · 14/07/2024 07:20

It really bugs me when people on MN talk rubbish, and when they don't know simple science - and I KNOW everyone in the country has been taught this, as it is in the GCSE double award, which is the minimum amount of science that is compulsory in England.

It is called fright, flight or fight.

After a scare or injury, you are flooded with adrenalin, which is a hormone that diverts blood from digestion, immune system and other non critical systems. Blood rushes to heart and lungs, getting oxygen into muscles double speed, giving you more power and strength short term than your body can sustain longer term. You don't feel pain, you feel energy and aggression.

Yes, if you are shot in the ear, you first and most natural response is likely to be defiance and retaliation, pushing away security, ignoring danger, gestures of defiance or triumph.

I don't like the man, and I may even be a little bit sorry he wasn't hurt worse, but his reaction is not "unnatural" or "looks staged" or "obviously planned and acted" -on the contrary, it is entirely as you would expect.

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Justrolledmyeyesoutloud · 14/07/2024 08:13

Cityandmakeup · 14/07/2024 08:00

😂 they should be embarrassed

Ha l have no shame - hated every single thing about Science and totally switched off in lessons!!

sixtyandsomething · 14/07/2024 08:13

Bobbotgegrinch · 14/07/2024 08:01

Marvellous. Another thread about that knob head. You couldn't have put his name in the title?

His name is irrelevant, really, I am not particularly concerned about him, I am just giving people the opportunity to understand basic science a bit better. I am concerned about lack of understanding of something very simple that everyone has covered at school! This sort of thing does come up quite regularly on MN

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Tinkerbot · 14/07/2024 08:14

Who’s been shot in the ear? Trump?

ttcat37 · 14/07/2024 08:14

I thought it was fight, flight, freeze or faint? Make sure you’re right if you’re going to lecture us

sixtyandsomething · 14/07/2024 08:14

ttcat37 · 14/07/2024 08:14

I thought it was fight, flight, freeze or faint? Make sure you’re right if you’re going to lecture us

It doesn't matter, the principle is the same

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whathasitgottodowiththepriceofoliveoil · 14/07/2024 08:15

Cityandmakeup · 14/07/2024 08:00

😂 they should be embarrassed

That's a bit rude? Loads of people didn't do the UK GCSE science. And those who failed just aren't science minded.

Apolloneuro · 14/07/2024 08:15

sixtyandsomething · 14/07/2024 08:13

His name is irrelevant, really, I am not particularly concerned about him, I am just giving people the opportunity to understand basic science a bit better. I am concerned about lack of understanding of something very simple that everyone has covered at school! This sort of thing does come up quite regularly on MN

But your OP was incorrect…. How ironic.

Enko · 14/07/2024 08:15

sixtyandsomething · 14/07/2024 08:13

His name is irrelevant, really, I am not particularly concerned about him, I am just giving people the opportunity to understand basic science a bit better. I am concerned about lack of understanding of something very simple that everyone has covered at school! This sort of thing does come up quite regularly on MN

Basic science understood better when you got it wrong? Plus then you dismiss other comments. If you want to complain others have it wrong then acknowledge when you do wrong yourself.

I do agree his reaction was normal.

ttcat37 · 14/07/2024 08:15

sixtyandsomething · 14/07/2024 08:14

It doesn't matter, the principle is the same

It does really, because you’re giving everybody a telling off for not listening in their gcse science class, but it seems that you didn’t listen either. Straight to detention!

sixtyandsomething · 14/07/2024 08:16

Apolloneuro · 14/07/2024 08:15

But your OP was incorrect…. How ironic.

no it wasn't

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tahinitoast · 14/07/2024 08:16

user1984778379202 · 14/07/2024 07:50

Are you going to set us homework too?

🤣🤣🤣

BingoMarieHeeler · 14/07/2024 08:17

sixtyandsomething · 14/07/2024 08:16

no it wasn't

It really was 😆

sixtyandsomething · 14/07/2024 08:17

ttcat37 · 14/07/2024 08:15

It does really, because you’re giving everybody a telling off for not listening in their gcse science class, but it seems that you didn’t listen either. Straight to detention!

dont you understand that the wording doesn't matter? There isn't a "correct wording". It is about science. It is about understanding the principle

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BingoMarieHeeler · 14/07/2024 08:17

sixtyandsomething · 14/07/2024 08:17

dont you understand that the wording doesn't matter? There isn't a "correct wording". It is about science. It is about understanding the principle

Words do have meanings, you know.

sixtyandsomething · 14/07/2024 08:17

BingoMarieHeeler · 14/07/2024 08:17

It really was 😆

no, it really wasn't - if you think it was, then you are one of the people not understanding the science.

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Anniegetyourgun · 14/07/2024 08:18

It must be nice to know everything...

MsNorburry · 14/07/2024 08:19

You can see fawn in subtle ways. Subtle as in not life or death, but obvious when you can identify their response to stress. Stress can be maintaining social status.

Fawners identify two groups of people, 1) association with you validates me. 2) association with you does not validate me.

watch them fawn over people who they want validation from, and then stone cold ignore anybody they consider beneath them.

Apolloneuro · 14/07/2024 08:19

sixtyandsomething · 14/07/2024 08:16

no it wasn't

It was. You referred to ‘fright’ and omitted freeze.

Enko · 14/07/2024 08:19

sixtyandsomething · 14/07/2024 08:17

no, it really wasn't - if you think it was, then you are one of the people not understanding the science.

Go back reread your post and then go look up the 4 stress responses. You got 2 of them.

You also have not yet acknowledged that not everyone here will have taken GCSE's or even had their education in the UK.

ThePoshUns · 14/07/2024 08:21

Gosh thank you for your expertise and coming on Mumsnet so educate us silly little women. Bravo you.

whathasitgottodowiththepriceofoliveoil · 14/07/2024 08:21

sixtyandsomething · 14/07/2024 08:17

dont you understand that the wording doesn't matter? There isn't a "correct wording". It is about science. It is about understanding the principle

What are you on about? Of course there is correct terminology, so that researchers know what each other are talking about. They define terms all the time.

AndThatsItReally · 14/07/2024 08:21

People do not want to learn anything - it's by far the most fashionable thing to be proud of one's ignorance and dismiss or belittle or worse anyone who tries to tell you something you didn't know.

If you already knew that, (and had maybe experienced it for yourself) - ignore the OP. If you didn't know that you think, "Ah, that explains it... I didn't know".

If you disagree or want to add something - do so - and widen the issue and we all learn more.

Or - popular option - attack the person who raised the issue and try to drag them down. More fun, bigs yourself up!

ThinWomansBrain · 14/07/2024 08:22

Serencwtch · 14/07/2024 07:47

Your GCSE in double science doesn't actually make you an expert.

Guess what? there may be people here that did proper science O Levels/CSEs in physics/chemistry/biology and human biology before 'double science" was dreamed up.
Presumably for students that weren't up to studying sciences in any depth.

MichaelAndEagle · 14/07/2024 08:22

Who are we talking about? Someone's been shot in the ear? And they punched the air?

sixtyandsomething · 14/07/2024 08:22

Apolloneuro · 14/07/2024 08:19

It was. You referred to ‘fright’ and omitted freeze.

They are both equally right, it is just a set of words to help students remember the scientific principle, it isn't right or wrong to include "freeze". There are other forms of this phrase with other words in. The point is, the principle. Going all out on the semantics just shows you don't understand that the semantics are not what it is about.

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