OK, I need to explain about adrenalin.....

[sixtyandsomething]

It really bugs me when people on MN talk rubbish, and when they don't know simple science - and I KNOW everyone in the country has been taught this, as it is in the GCSE double award, which is the minimum amount of science that is compulsory in England.

It is called fright, flight or fight.

After a scare or injury, you are flooded with adrenalin, which is a hormone that diverts blood from digestion, immune system and other non critical systems. Blood rushes to heart and lungs, getting oxygen into muscles double speed, giving you more power and strength short term than your body can sustain longer term. You don't feel pain, you feel energy and aggression.

Yes, if you are shot in the ear, you first and most natural response is likely to be defiance and retaliation, pushing away security, ignoring danger, gestures of defiance or triumph.

I don't like the man, and I may even be a little bit sorry he wasn't hurt worse, but his reaction is not "unnatural" or "looks staged" or "obviously planned and acted" -on the contrary, it is entirely as you would expect.

has everyone covered it at school though?

Lead me to an academic document that references the responses of the autonomic nervous system as ‘fright, fight and flight’ and I’ll eat humble pie. Fright is not synonymous with freeze.

Trump though I thought he was hit by a bit of teleprompter not shot in the ear

That would be a good point if what OP was saying was actually correct. But opening with a post with that tone, which has mistakes in it, is incredible.

Who are you even talking about?

Oh wow! Off to find the news!

Yeah it's the attitude of the OP that's got people's backs up

If you put fright in your GCSE answers for what the stress responses are you would be marked down.

Donald Trumpleton

Would you or would you just not be awarded a mark?

Likely not awarded a mark 😁

Thank you, yes I always know, when I post anything on Mumsnet, that there is immediately going to be bullies attacking, for my dydslexia, for my choice of words, for their own misreading, for just the pleasure of bullying... I wouldn't post if I cared about that.

But there are always the lurkers, the people who just read quietly, and I know that there will be some who leave understanding a bit better. There might even be GCSE candidates who will be more able to apply the words in a science text book to real situations now, either they have read this themselves, or maybe a parent who helps with revision has read it.

It is quite interesting how many people here are (probably quite genuinely) misunderstanding the difference between semantics and science. The semantics is to support science understanding, it isn't the actual science.

I failed O'level biology but still know about fight, flight and freeze from watching programmes on air accidents.

no, you would get the mark - because it is correct. GCSE marker here.

I KNOW everyone in the country has been taught this, as it is in the GCSE double award, which is the minimum amount of science that is compulsory in England.

You mean everyone your age. I'm pre-GCSE and I didn't have to do any science O levels at all.

If you'd posted with a different title and altered your opening paragraph people may have been more receptive to your message

Quite. I didn’t do GCSEs. And I didn’t learn about adrenaline. And I didn’t do double science. Back in the day, it was single general science.

The irony of someone 'teaching' others and getting it wrong themselves.

It's the five Fs....Fight, Flight, Freeze, Fawn and Flop.

And Adrenaline is spelt with an e on the end.

Happy to educate you OP.

Op if your posts have always got the attitude of this one I am not surprised you feel people have a go at you. It's about tone.

Semantics does matter btw. Semantics are about the meaning of a word phrase or text.

Fright means :a sudden intense feeling of fear.

Freeze (in this context as we are not talking of liquids but people) means: become suddenly motionless or paralysed with fear or shock.
"she froze in horror"

I am dyslexic too and English is my second language.

I happen to find the stress responses very interesting and an area I have read extensively about due to this. I took science in the mid 80s not in the UK and no we were not taught about this in science. (It was pure chemistry for us)

Can we stop the bitching and the acknowledge the OP has a point. Adrenaline does have a powerful effect on the body. It gets you through traumatic situations. Once the perceived danger is over and its still pumping through your system it makes you shake which is very unpleasant.

Once I was first aider to a man who had had a motorcycle accident. I literally put on a brave face and dealt with him. Afterwards I could not stop shaking.

Can we stop using the gendered insult of "bitching"?

Actually a recent lecture I attended on the 5 (or 6) Fs suggest it is far more complicate than a mere adrenaline response. For a simple expert explanation, this is useful: drarielleschwartz.com/the-neurobiology-of-trauma-dr-arielle-schwartz/

And if she/he had worded their initial post like this, people may have been more receptive. Unfortunately, they chose to be condescending and arrogant.

it doesn't matter what title you put or what opening paragraph, there is always the automatic response of people rushing in to try and put you down and bully you, and there are always then people who say "its your own fault for the way you phrased your title and OP"

This is universal across MN - and if I cared, I wouldn't post