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Boyfriend's DD custody arrangement/pet. Too much drama ahead?

199 replies

citythatneversleeps · 12/07/2024 22:01

Boyfriend and I have been together for a year and a half. He has a daughter who is 14. She's got a few 'temper issues' shall we say. Her school has complained about her angst - and about her lashing out at her friends etc... (won't go into more details). The BM is very much the same in terms of temperament.

I was wary of dating someone with a kid/kids as I'm childfree and the dynamic is, of course, totally different. I had ended things once before as it was just very complex. To be clear, I'm not a 'kid-hater' or anything like that. I just don't have any of my own - and frankly - on the fence.

However, he has a tendency to be a 'Disney Dad' because he was the one who left the marriage. No, he didn't cheat. (No one did). No, I'm not the 'other woman' before anyone asks/assumes...

He's now (without telling me) cemented a formal arrangement that is 50/50. He told me as of next month (as in two weeks) time, the arrangement will be formal - 3 nights overnights - and that he hopes she'll move in full-time with him - in a year or so. He is concerned about her behaviour and feels that she will be happier with him. Obviously this full-time moving in plan is all (his) speculation/hopes, but the other stuff (3x overnights) is cemented. He didn't even tell me that any of this was going on in the background until the overnights were cemented. He came in all happy whilst telling me, so I didn't even have a chance to process it all.

He's also promised her a pet as a way to lift her spirits/ease her angst as well as pretty much anything else she wants.

I'm obviously happy for him given this latest 'living arrangement' development. This is great for them and it goes without saying, that I hope they work through all the angst/issues together. She is already in therapy 2x week.

The thing is, he and I had plans to move in together. Yes, plans can change and it's not the end of the world if that were to be the case, but he didn't even mention how that would work....? We spoke today and he said we could find a bigger place together - which of course, would be far more expensive - and since we are both buying together, I'd have to spend far more than I anticipated. Or that we could move in together once she's at University...?! But that's in 3 years time...?!

I don't see my relationship with him working as a result. The entire dynamic would change and the girl is quite violent at times.

On the pet side... I have an old rescue dog and one of the times she lashed out a year ago, she stamped on a dog's tail (not my dog's tail, to be clear!) If he gets her a dog/cat, I'm worried about any poor animal in that house.

AIBU to want to respectfully walk away from all this? All I see is drama ahead - and I'm beyond annoyed that (whilst I have no 'right' to be involved in their family arrangements) it changes my plans, changes things for me financially, changes my relationship - and more... He has a tendency to act first and think second - and this is a big deal for me, but doesn't seem to be a big deal to him. He thinks I should 'look on the bright side' etc...

I know that when you are seeing someone with a kid/kids - anything could happen - and life could change. A parent could pass away, for example... so in some ways I should have seen this coming. Thankfully, we are not living together, don't have any joint finances etc... so an easy exit would be on the cards.

I would never want to get between a father and a child. The needs of the child should come first. Obviously. But I do also want to be able to live a life somewhat similar to what I had envisioned too. This wouldn't be it. Whilst I don't have a kid, I wouldn't put my rescue dog in an environment where he could be on the receiving end of any poor treatment.

Sorry for the long post.

OP posts:
AlwaysGinPlease · 13/07/2024 07:10

Sorry Op just saw you ended it. Thank goodness.

LividLoved · 13/07/2024 07:11

Not your circus.

HelloCheekyCat · 13/07/2024 07:22

There was a thread fairly recently in which the OP lived with her DP in her house (only hers) and his kids part time, she earned more so paid for loads more, kids behave was awful to the OP so she split up with him, kicked him out and he has th cheek to ask for money from her. So you've dodged that bullet!

orangesandlemonss · 13/07/2024 07:30

AlwaysGinPlease · 13/07/2024 07:10

Sorry Op just saw you ended it. Thank goodness.

This.

Cremeroulety · 13/07/2024 07:34

Yeah I remember that thread about the woman who’s soon to be ex was expecting her to continue to contribute towards various activities or school fees for a while.

then at one point he was going to come round with his kids to pick up their things and basically guilt her. Does anyone remember what happened in the end?

Honestly this is another reason why I don’t date men with kids, but if I did I’d expect them to earn a lot more than me so they’re not depending on me to provide housing for their child or finance their child support.

DoIWantTo · 13/07/2024 07:35

You don’t sound like you should be in a relationship with anyone that has children ever. Maybe find a man that wants to be child free too.

luckylavender · 13/07/2024 07:37

What he is doing for his daughter is laudable. I don't think you are ready to be a Step Mother, not fair on any of you. Best walk away.

Justleaveitblankthen · 13/07/2024 07:43

VJBR · 12/07/2024 23:52

She keyed her car. Who cares what she’s called.

This.
And I would be keeping my pets a hundred miles away from her.
'Issues' or not.

Yet he's buying her another live animal? 🤨

Loopytiles · 13/07/2024 07:45

YANBU to walk away.

However YWBU, with the information you had about your BF, his DD and ex, to think there were good odds it’d work out in the way you wanted. Should’ve been clear it wouldn’t (or even if it would that’d make your BF a poor father). So you’ve wasted your own time.

RickyGervaislovesdogs · 13/07/2024 07:49

Nope. Don’t walk, run. It sounds like a shit show. Either that or put off moving in- but honestly I wouldn’t get involved.

I can’t abide animal cruelty either, couldn’t give a fuck if she’s “struggling”.
Animal cruelty isn’t an outlet for rage.

“I'm also the higher earner so I would financially lose out more as a result, especially as the places he'd want to ideally live in and the schools he'd want to be nearer for his daughter would be in a totally different part of London - and the place we'd buy wouldn't be a 50/50 purchase due to his savings/income being considerably less than mine. I've also been paying for a lot more as things currently stand”

^ OMG can see you’ve ended it. Bullet dodged indeed.

Izzynohopanda · 13/07/2024 07:53

I’m sure I’m not the only one who think that it’s not going to end well, with partner looking after his daughter. It sounds like he’s got a romantic idea that dd living with him will solve all the problems.

Op refers to him as ‘Disney dad’ so he’s used to doing all the nice stuff. It’s a bit different when she’ll be living there, and has to do all the practical stuff as well - getting dd to and from school, homework, washing clothes, cooking, etc, plus dealing with teenage hormones, angst etc.

And yes, he’d obviously factored op into the equation with shouldering some of this care, both practically and financially (in the future) without mentioning it to her.

You made the right decision. Let them work it out between them, and step back .

TheGoodEnoughWife · 13/07/2024 08:05

GoneFishingToday · 13/07/2024 03:25

It's just crossed my mind to ask, why we're all giving this man so much credit for being there for his teenage daughter, if it were a woman, I don't think any of us would be thinking how great she was, for doing what should come naturally with being a parent.

Also, the more I think about it, I can't help wondering if the talk with the OP about moving in - in her mind in the future, isn't what prompted him to go ahead and make the plans to move his daughter in for as much of the time as possible, as he thought, he had a ready made step mother all lined up. After all, how many men do we read about on MN, who use new partners to step in and care for the kids, while they're off with their mates down the pub?

I know the OP hasn't mentioned any of this, and would be happy to continue being friends with this man, so I could be totally wrong about him, but maybe my suspicions come from reading about so many shitty men, here on MN?

Totally this!

He has seen a future where the OP funds a bigger house in the area he wants to be. He makes moves to have his daughter 50/50 (so no maintenance?) - he isn't some sort of father of the year. He has lined up the OP to pay and parent his daughter without even discussing it with her.

Run OP from this person. No good will come of it for you. Enjoy your child free life and find another fishy.

ThatAgileGoldMoose · 13/07/2024 08:14

Imagine the reaction on mumsnet if he had announced that he was moving a dog who had a history of having bitten a child in with the OP's child and expecting the OP to fund it 😳

Eddielizzard · 13/07/2024 08:46

Yes yes great he's making his DD No. 1 priority, but he has treated you appallingly. What did he say about the keying? How can he think it's fine to completely shift the goalposts without discussion? While this man puts his DD at No. 1 spot, he has treated you as an afterthought. You have done absolutely the right thing.

InterIgnis · 13/07/2024 09:09

Well done for ending things, genuinely. You were in danger of being expected to fund a giant fucking shitshow.

Eddielizzard · 13/07/2024 09:14

OMG of course. That's why he didn't tell you. He is looking forward to you funding his DD and stepping into a childcare role. He's onto a winner! If there's no discussion you can't say no. Or so he thinks.

GoldFrame · 13/07/2024 09:14

You don’t sound selfish at all @citythatneversleeps

You’re doing the right thing. Good luck in moving on

TheFormidableMrsC · 13/07/2024 09:17

Noseybookworm · 12/07/2024 22:48

If you decide that his commitment to his daughter (which is lovely and as it should be) means that this relationship is not for you, that is a perfectly valid choice and you don't have to justify it to him or anyone else. It's not the life you want. And that's ok.

Edited

I agree with this and would also walk away. It's not for you OP and that's perfectly fine.

Spirallingdownwards · 13/07/2024 09:18

seedsandseeds · 13/07/2024 00:28

AIBU to want to respectfully walk away from all this?

Anyone can walk away from any relationship for any reason.

I'd suggest this is a good idea as I think he'll be better off.

You clearly haven't read the OP's posts properly or at all.

VickyEadieofThigh · 13/07/2024 09:18

citythatneversleeps · 12/07/2024 23:07

Exactly. There's no need for any dramatics etc... and as I said, his child SHOULD be his priority. No issues in bowing out gracefully and leaving him to provide the best setup possible for his child.

I know it's 'selfish' to not want to deal with that as someone who is childfree, but it's the right thing to do.

What does BM stand for?

TheBottomsOfMyTrousersAreRolled · 13/07/2024 09:24

were you talking to him about it? How did he take it? I wonder after all you have said whether his plans have all relied on finances.

DDivaStar · 13/07/2024 09:32

You don't want children in your life, so this isn't the man for you.

He is rightly putting his daughter first, 3 nights a week really isn't that much. If you cant accept that she's his priority and accept her into your life and home best get out now.

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 13/07/2024 09:39

Well done for ending it, what a leech. I'd bet my right arm he was expecting you to do plenty of childcare along with funding the house.

Naunet · 13/07/2024 09:42

fruitbrewhaha · 12/07/2024 22:08

I think what he is doing is great. You shouldn’t be his priority. After 18 months in this circumstance you should be dating. He has a teenage daughter, 14 is a tricky age and she is struggling. Just date him on the days his daughter is not at home with him. You will have plenty of time to do nice things together, go away together, or just hang out. You don’t need to be involved in his DDs life.

None of this stops him from acting like an adult and communicating with OP though.

I don’t blame you at all OP, I’d walk away too.

margotmargeaux · 13/07/2024 09:49

I think you have made the right decision to end things OP.
You have nipped it in the bud as I can't see there being any happen endings here, just a stressful few years which you could really do without.
I think you've shown sense and seemed to have remained calm and respectful.
Good on you.