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What are your true thoughts re this violent incident?

242 replies

Poiboi · 12/07/2024 15:55

A woman finds out her fiance has cheated. In her anger she throws an object at the fiance - causing a split lip.

What are your honest thoughts on this violence.

I am neither person mentioned. I have witnessed surprising reactions to this ‘incident’ though. Shocked me tbh.

OP posts:
Oldermum84 · 12/07/2024 16:31

What he did was a lot worse.

Though it depends what she threw... A feather? A knife?

Everyone can answer "it's assault" "violence is worse" blah blah blah but I bet more than half of them have thrown something in anger (though probably had worse aim).

Fannyfiggs · 12/07/2024 16:31

I feel for the woman. She just found out some life changing information and has lashed out without thinking about her actions or consequences. Violence is never the answer though.

However, if the man hadn't cheated he wouldn't have a split lip 🤷

Beezknees · 12/07/2024 16:32

Oldermum84 · 12/07/2024 16:31

What he did was a lot worse.

Though it depends what she threw... A feather? A knife?

Everyone can answer "it's assault" "violence is worse" blah blah blah but I bet more than half of them have thrown something in anger (though probably had worse aim).

No I haven't, because I'm not a child having a tantrum.

Metempsychosis · 12/07/2024 16:32

Photo frame is really bad.

Paperback book, for example, which could never cause serious injury but could cause a split lip with an unlucky hit, would be very wrong but more forgivable. Photo frame with sharp corners and glass in it implies intent to wound.

andthat · 12/07/2024 16:32

LizFromMotherland · 12/07/2024 16:20

Like fuck is it different.

Photo frame - thrown at person.

Person - split lip.

Stop trying to minimise violence by those who cannot control their anger.

Genitals make no difference in this story.

perfectly articulated.

DanielGault · 12/07/2024 16:33

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 12/07/2024 16:30

@DanielGault and @TheresaCrowd both are unacceptable.

A man is significantly more likely to kill someone when they throw something than a woman. It's equally bad behaviour but the results are worse for a bloke.

I don't think many women have unintentionally killed anyone with an unlucky single punch. Men sadly have.
Throwing stuff is the same. Why else separate sexes in sport? Men throw helluvalot harder than women.

Both are completely unacceptable.

None of that is violence apologism

It is though, or some of the replies have been. We all know men are stronger and more prone to violence. It doesn't mean women should follow suit. It's still unacceptable.

NotFortunate · 12/07/2024 16:33

SerendipityJane · 12/07/2024 16:15

"Look what you made me do"

"If you would just behave I wouldn't have to hurt you"

TheresaCrowd · 12/07/2024 16:34

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 12/07/2024 16:30

@DanielGault and @TheresaCrowd both are unacceptable.

A man is significantly more likely to kill someone when they throw something than a woman. It's equally bad behaviour but the results are worse for a bloke.

I don't think many women have unintentionally killed anyone with an unlucky single punch. Men sadly have.
Throwing stuff is the same. Why else separate sexes in sport? Men throw helluvalot harder than women.

Both are completely unacceptable.

None of that is violence apologism

If ifs and buts were crisps and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas 🙄

The point is, this woman threw a photo frame at someone out of temper and split their lip.

That is WRONG all day long, no matter what sort of knots you want to tie yourself up in.

veritusverity · 12/07/2024 16:36

She can't control her anger, and what she did is totally out of order.
He can't control his dick and what he did is totally out of order.
Both are totally ill suited. Neither should ever be a parent because clearly neither can behave like adults and communicate with each other, which doesn't bode well for future relationships.

KreedKafer · 12/07/2024 16:38

If she can’t express her anger without throwing things, she’s a fucking danger and I’ve got zero sympathy for her.

Whatevershallidowithmylife · 12/07/2024 16:39

Heat of the moment and imo totally different to a scenario where she assaulted him skin to skin contact. Yes, I know violence isn't acceptable but sometimes life gets in the way of things.

Nicknacky · 12/07/2024 16:40

Helpimfalling · 12/07/2024 16:21

Il probably get flamed for saying this but if my son cheated on his long term partner I would fully expect her to throw something at him.

And if your daughter cheated on her partner you would support him assaulting her too?

Noseybookworm · 12/07/2024 16:41

Whilst I don't think violence and throwing things is acceptable, in reality I think someone reacting in a moment of high emotional stress like this is less culpable than prolonged, repeated domestic violence. But no, it's not acceptable.

FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant · 12/07/2024 16:41

I remember my mum finding out my dad was leaving her for another woman, after having (what she thought was) a very happy marriage for 25 years. She was in bits and I can recall her pulling off her slippers one by one to throw at him before telling him to pack his bags and leave. Violence is never the answer but I don't blame my mum, I'd never seen emotional pain quite like it.

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 12/07/2024 16:42

Violence is not an acceptable response to cheating. Ever. Assault is a crime unless it's in self defence (which it clearly isn't here).

Would it be okay for a man to throw objects at his girlfriend if she cheated? No.

JennyTalworts · 12/07/2024 16:43

Whatevershallidowithmylife · 12/07/2024 16:39

Heat of the moment and imo totally different to a scenario where she assaulted him skin to skin contact. Yes, I know violence isn't acceptable but sometimes life gets in the way of things.

Why does it matter whether she split his lip with 'skin to skin' contact or throwing a photo frame?

It's still a violent and dangerous act and he's still got a split lip 😳

Lets hope she never has kids in the future who make her angry, or an elderly relative.

LizFromMotherland · 12/07/2024 16:45

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 12/07/2024 16:42

Violence is not an acceptable response to cheating. Ever. Assault is a crime unless it's in self defence (which it clearly isn't here).

Would it be okay for a man to throw objects at his girlfriend if she cheated? No.

Edited

Apparently it's different because women can't throw as hard as men, even though you can still kill someone with an object lightly thrown to the head, if it hits in a certain place.

But you know....men/Mumsnet etc.

qwertyasdfgzxcv · 12/07/2024 16:45

@soscarlet I do think throwing something is an expression of anger and that sort of outburst is due to having issue with not being able to express in a mature way.

serialcatbuyer · 12/07/2024 16:45

You don't own your partner if they cheat you can leave but you've no right to get so angry you hit them

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 12/07/2024 16:46

FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant · 12/07/2024 16:41

I remember my mum finding out my dad was leaving her for another woman, after having (what she thought was) a very happy marriage for 25 years. She was in bits and I can recall her pulling off her slippers one by one to throw at him before telling him to pack his bags and leave. Violence is never the answer but I don't blame my mum, I'd never seen emotional pain quite like it.

For throwing things, I do think the missile makes a big difference to how violent the action is. Throwing a cushion is not as violent as throwing a bottle of wine, and I'd judge it less harshly.

Throwing a slipper at someone isn't likely to result in injury (unless it's a very unusual slipper). It's not the same as throwing a photo frame - which is heavier, has sharp edges, contains glass etc.

sentfrmmyiphone · 12/07/2024 16:46

NotFortunate · 12/07/2024 16:33

"If you would just behave I wouldn't have to hurt you"

'trust me it could have been a lot worse... you were lucky this time!'

Boobettes · 12/07/2024 16:47

So OP

After more than 120 replies, are we going to hear YOUR opinion?

FriendlyNeighbourhoodAccountant · 12/07/2024 16:47

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 12/07/2024 16:46

For throwing things, I do think the missile makes a big difference to how violent the action is. Throwing a cushion is not as violent as throwing a bottle of wine, and I'd judge it less harshly.

Throwing a slipper at someone isn't likely to result in injury (unless it's a very unusual slipper). It's not the same as throwing a photo frame - which is heavier, has sharp edges, contains glass etc.

I agree, but reading the comments on here it seems not everyone does so I thought I'd throw my two pence into the mix! But no, they were very average slippers 😂

DanielGault · 12/07/2024 16:47

Oldermum84 · 12/07/2024 16:31

What he did was a lot worse.

Though it depends what she threw... A feather? A knife?

Everyone can answer "it's assault" "violence is worse" blah blah blah but I bet more than half of them have thrown something in anger (though probably had worse aim).

It IS assault. And it IS violence. Do you find that acceptable? Would you find it acceptable if your daughter was a victim of such violence? If you were?

QueenCamilla · 12/07/2024 16:49

I would have called the police on the violent fucker. It's a shame he didn't.