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What are your true thoughts re this violent incident?

242 replies

Poiboi · 12/07/2024 15:55

A woman finds out her fiance has cheated. In her anger she throws an object at the fiance - causing a split lip.

What are your honest thoughts on this violence.

I am neither person mentioned. I have witnessed surprising reactions to this ‘incident’ though. Shocked me tbh.

OP posts:
EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 12/07/2024 16:14

Poiboi · 12/07/2024 16:06

If it makes a difference she is sorry and didn’t really expect to hit him due to poor aim

Was she really really sorry?

Does she really really love him?

Does he need to forgive ?

Was it his fault anyway?

Was he making too much of a fuss over nothing?

Does he need to leave it now?

Perpetrator playbook for DV.

It also sounds like you aren't asking for a friend...

Poiboi · 12/07/2024 16:14

She threw a photo frame

OP posts:
Poiboi · 12/07/2024 16:14

100% not me

OP posts:
OldTinHat · 12/07/2024 16:14

I knew of someone who found out her fiance was cheating. She threw absolutely everything out of his kitchen cupboards onto the floor (not at him). She ended up with a criminal record.

SerendipityJane · 12/07/2024 16:15

"Look what you made me do"

sentfrmmyiphone · 12/07/2024 16:15

Poiboi · 12/07/2024 16:14

100% not me

you're the other woman aren't you 😂

itsgettingweird · 12/07/2024 16:15

Bit different regards a child though. Not great but being cheated on n when you're supposed to be getting married is a fucking insult and a half. Shouldn't have thrown shit but he's not severely injured is he. Maybe with his next one he'll think twice about being a cheating cockwomble🤷

And if a woman cheated on her fiancé and he threw something at her you'd say it ok?

DanielGault · 12/07/2024 16:16

SerendipityJane · 12/07/2024 16:15

"Look what you made me do"

God yes, isn't that it.

StormingNorman · 12/07/2024 16:16

Cheating is awful. Doesn’t give you the right to throw things at people.

cupcaske123 · 12/07/2024 16:16

Poiboi · 12/07/2024 16:14

She threw a photo frame

But photo frames can be heavy and contain glass. She could have had an eye out.

LizFromMotherland · 12/07/2024 16:16

Devilsmommy · 12/07/2024 16:13

@Beezknees no I wouldn't because men are stronger than women and a man pegging something at a woman would be done alot fucking harder. And before you jump on me I've been in that situation and men don't throw with shit aim

Utter tosh.

The object split his lip regardless of the vagina owning thrower.

And also could've blinded him considering her shit aim.

redskydarknight · 12/07/2024 16:16

Sapphire387 · 12/07/2024 16:10

I think it does make a difference. If it was something that couldn't reasonably be expected to cause an injury, it's a bit different to throwing something sharp/heavy.

Objects that you wouldn't reasonably expect to cause an injury don't cause split lips. Small scratches maybe if they catch the person wrong.

Beezknees · 12/07/2024 16:17

Devilsmommy · 12/07/2024 16:13

@Beezknees no I wouldn't because men are stronger than women and a man pegging something at a woman would be done alot fucking harder. And before you jump on me I've been in that situation and men don't throw with shit aim

You're talking rubbish and minimising violence.

Anonym00se · 12/07/2024 16:17

We don’t know the backstory. If there has been cheating, had there also been gaslighting and coercive control? (Likely where there is infidelity.) Sally Challen may have been ‘wrong’ when she killed her abusive husband with a hammer, but she wasn’t in her right mind due to suffering years of abuse at the hands of a cheating monster.

NewPinkJacket · 12/07/2024 16:17

SerendipityJane · 12/07/2024 16:15

"Look what you made me do"

100%

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 12/07/2024 16:17

What did you expect to hear? Violence is never ok. Throwing things is violence even if not intended to hit.

I think the incident is forgivable if both parties know it wasn’t intended to hit anyone. But she needs to learn not to throw stuff in rage.

I wouldn’t forgive the cheating, unless it was equally accidental 🤣.

Puffinfoot · 12/07/2024 16:17

LizFromMotherland · 12/07/2024 16:10

And your daughter if you had/have one?

Violence by men against women is different though. It just is, because of the power imbalance. Almost all situations where posters say, it would be different if it was man/woman are irrelevant. Of course it's different.

ARichtGoodDram · 12/07/2024 16:17

Poiboi · 12/07/2024 16:14

She threw a photo frame

Something that usually has sharp edges and glass…

She could have blinded him.

singlemum81 · 12/07/2024 16:18

If she is arrested and interviewed at custody, they would be looking for the mens rea and actus reus

The definition of an assault occasioning actual bodily harm (ABH): Actus Reus: the defendant must commit an assault or battery which causes the victim to suffer actual bodily harm. Mens Rea: the defendant must intend or be reckless as to the assault or battery.

Beezknees · 12/07/2024 16:18

Puffinfoot · 12/07/2024 16:17

Violence by men against women is different though. It just is, because of the power imbalance. Almost all situations where posters say, it would be different if it was man/woman are irrelevant. Of course it's different.

No it isn't. Violence is violence no matter how you try and paint it. Excusing it the way you are is disgusting.

Devilsmommy · 12/07/2024 16:19

Beezknees · 12/07/2024 16:17

You're talking rubbish and minimising violence.

To be honest I'm not going to worry about a cheating twat who got a split lip from a picture frame. I'll save my empathy for all the women who take a fuck of alot more than that for merely existing

redskydarknight · 12/07/2024 16:19

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 12/07/2024 16:17

What did you expect to hear? Violence is never ok. Throwing things is violence even if not intended to hit.

I think the incident is forgivable if both parties know it wasn’t intended to hit anyone. But she needs to learn not to throw stuff in rage.

I wouldn’t forgive the cheating, unless it was equally accidental 🤣.

Perhaps the man didn't mean to cheat, he just had bad aim?
Grin

DanielGault · 12/07/2024 16:19

Anonym00se · 12/07/2024 16:17

We don’t know the backstory. If there has been cheating, had there also been gaslighting and coercive control? (Likely where there is infidelity.) Sally Challen may have been ‘wrong’ when she killed her abusive husband with a hammer, but she wasn’t in her right mind due to suffering years of abuse at the hands of a cheating monster.

You're making stuff up now though. Unless OP wants to come along and enlighten us, this a case of a woman being violent. It happens, and it's equally unacceptable as male violence.

littlekipling · 12/07/2024 16:19

They need to split. She needs to look into help for her anger. Throwing something at someone is never ever acceptable. He's disgusting for cheating. But it didn't warrant being assaulted.

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 12/07/2024 16:20

A man throwing the same item at or near someone- always worse than a woman doing it because of his greater strength and the damage he can do.