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What are your true thoughts re this violent incident?

242 replies

Poiboi · 12/07/2024 15:55

A woman finds out her fiance has cheated. In her anger she throws an object at the fiance - causing a split lip.

What are your honest thoughts on this violence.

I am neither person mentioned. I have witnessed surprising reactions to this ‘incident’ though. Shocked me tbh.

OP posts:
LizFromMotherland · 12/07/2024 16:20

Puffinfoot · 12/07/2024 16:17

Violence by men against women is different though. It just is, because of the power imbalance. Almost all situations where posters say, it would be different if it was man/woman are irrelevant. Of course it's different.

Like fuck is it different.

Photo frame - thrown at person.

Person - split lip.

Stop trying to minimise violence by those who cannot control their anger.

Genitals make no difference in this story.

Floatinginatincan · 12/07/2024 16:20

My true thoughts are that she acted out of emotion, we've all done things we regret when hurt or angry. I wouldn't judge her for it. Not many will actually admit to thinking that. I threw a hairbrush at my ex once in an argument. It bounced off his head. I wouldn't consider myself a perpetrator of domestic violence.

sentfrmmyiphone · 12/07/2024 16:20

@Puffinfoot ... don't be ridiculous... violence is violence irrespective of the sex or gender...

There is no good reason for one person to harm or put someone in fear of harm full stop.

So by your theory an 18 year old female can attack an elderly man.. and he should just man up?

singlemum81 · 12/07/2024 16:20

And the outcome depends on whether the victim supports police action/investigation

Poiboi · 12/07/2024 16:20

DanielGault · 12/07/2024 16:19

You're making stuff up now though. Unless OP wants to come along and enlighten us, this a case of a woman being violent. It happens, and it's equally unacceptable as male violence.

They were happy until cheating came out. No abuse either side. As far as I have been told/seen.

OP posts:
KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 12/07/2024 16:21

redskydarknight · 12/07/2024 16:19

Perhaps the man didn't mean to cheat, he just had bad aim?
Grin

Well exactly. He patted a dancer’s bum but it turned out that through beer goggles she looked just like his fiancé.

Helpimfalling · 12/07/2024 16:21

Il probably get flamed for saying this but if my son cheated on his long term partner I would fully expect her to throw something at him.

Beezknees · 12/07/2024 16:21

Floatinginatincan · 12/07/2024 16:20

My true thoughts are that she acted out of emotion, we've all done things we regret when hurt or angry. I wouldn't judge her for it. Not many will actually admit to thinking that. I threw a hairbrush at my ex once in an argument. It bounced off his head. I wouldn't consider myself a perpetrator of domestic violence.

This is not an OK way to think, because then it's excusing men for doing the same thing to women. Anyone could say they were "hurt" and use it as an excuse. It's not.

DanielGault · 12/07/2024 16:22

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 12/07/2024 16:20

A man throwing the same item at or near someone- always worse than a woman doing it because of his greater strength and the damage he can do.

JFC, neither is acceptable. Violence is violence.

ginasevern · 12/07/2024 16:22

itsmylife7 · 12/07/2024 16:01

I suppose until you're in that exact situation you'll never know how you'll react.

We all know violence is wrong but until you're in that situation (I don't know about this particular case), then it's hard to judge. When my husband of a 26 year long "happy marriage" said he'd been seeing someone else for a year, I threw my tea cup at him. We had never had a volatile relationship but it was a sudden knee jerk reaction to one of the most profound shocks of my life.

Earole · 12/07/2024 16:22

Totally wrong and if excuses are being made then those making them are wrong too.

ARichtGoodDram · 12/07/2024 16:23

Helpimfalling · 12/07/2024 16:21

Il probably get flamed for saying this but if my son cheated on his long term partner I would fully expect her to throw something at him.

And if your daughter cheated and her partner threw something would you be equally ok with it?

TheresaCrowd · 12/07/2024 16:24

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 12/07/2024 16:20

A man throwing the same item at or near someone- always worse than a woman doing it because of his greater strength and the damage he can do.

Rubbish

Man or woman with shit aim anyway, could cause an awful lot of permanent damage.

What on earth is wrong with the violent abuse apologists on this thread?

It's sickening.

Helpimfalling · 12/07/2024 16:24

@ARichtGoodDram yes if he hasn't been violent previously then yes...

Flame away

5128gap · 12/07/2024 16:26

My view is that people need to learn to control their impulses. They need to be taught from early childhood and from the first sign of violence. Because any time you get physical in anger you risk someone getting badly hurt. Doesn't matter what a person had done to you, unless its self defence, you should always keep your hands (and objects) to yourself.

LizFromMotherland · 12/07/2024 16:26

Helpimfalling · 12/07/2024 16:21

Il probably get flamed for saying this but if my son cheated on his long term partner I would fully expect her to throw something at him.

You sound strangely ok with that though?

If he died as a result of her throwing something at him, would you be ok with that too?

FredericC · 12/07/2024 16:27

It's not bloody rocket science OP. Violence is wrong, end of.

Let me guess.. because a woman has physically hurt a man, you are surprised at the number of 'well he had it coming' reactions, because you've not yet realised that our society is permissive of female violence against men.

Earole · 12/07/2024 16:27

ginasevern · 12/07/2024 16:22

We all know violence is wrong but until you're in that situation (I don't know about this particular case), then it's hard to judge. When my husband of a 26 year long "happy marriage" said he'd been seeing someone else for a year, I threw my tea cup at him. We had never had a volatile relationship but it was a sudden knee jerk reaction to one of the most profound shocks of my life.

It may have been a knee jerk reaction but it's still wrong.

Bromptotoo · 12/07/2024 16:28

What was thrown?

Was it intended to cause injury or was it unlucky?

cupcaske123 · 12/07/2024 16:29

Bromptotoo · 12/07/2024 16:28

What was thrown?

Was it intended to cause injury or was it unlucky?

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GalacticalFarce · 12/07/2024 16:29

Throwing an object is not acceptable but can be understood as an impulsive reaction.
The affair is not acceptable. It's deception, dishonest and calculated.

TinyYellow · 12/07/2024 16:30

She threw something with glass in it at someone’s face. She deserves to be prosecuted.

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 12/07/2024 16:30

@DanielGault and @TheresaCrowd both are unacceptable.

A man is significantly more likely to kill someone when they throw something than a woman. It's equally bad behaviour but the results are worse for a bloke.

I don't think many women have unintentionally killed anyone with an unlucky single punch. Men sadly have.
Throwing stuff is the same. Why else separate sexes in sport? Men throw helluvalot harder than women.

Both are completely unacceptable.

None of that is violence apologism

ARichtGoodDram · 12/07/2024 16:30

Helpimfalling · 12/07/2024 16:24

@ARichtGoodDram yes if he hasn't been violent previously then yes...

Flame away

If you’re happy for your children to be the victims of violence (and presumably in the same situation you’re happy for them to be the perpetrators of violence) then you do you.

i seriously doubt you’d be remotely as calm as you think if you ended up with an injured adult child on your hands.

Beezknees · 12/07/2024 16:31

GalacticalFarce · 12/07/2024 16:29

Throwing an object is not acceptable but can be understood as an impulsive reaction.
The affair is not acceptable. It's deception, dishonest and calculated.

You could say the same then if a bloke finds out his wife is cheating and punches her.

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