Late School Start Monday

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Primary School has announced that pupils do not have to be in school on Monday until 10am on Monday due to the football. (However it is open from normal time)

DH believes this is not good, a d setting a bad example

I thinkbthe school is being pragmatic and trying to keep their Stats up... because children will be up late so will be tired and grumpy on Monday morning... so more kate marks and more absences.

However... there has been several occasions where there have been school trips getting back at 10pm... and they were expected in at normal time the next day.

So... is the school being fair here?

(We aren't football fans, but we know people are excited!)

YABU... its a big event, the late start is justified
YANBU... children should be in school at normal time

Well very few bosses will be allowing late starts so why should schools? And who will look after the kids while having a lie in if the parents have to be at work at normal time?

It sounds reasonable. The parents who won’t take them till 10am anyway are the ones who will be calling in late to work or don’t have work anyway.

As long as school is open for those going in on time I see no issue it’s just pragmatic.

Lots of adults will likely be hung over if not running in by seat of pants I reckon. The men anyway.

Encouraging children to enjoy and participate in a cultural event with massive importance for the country - very educational in itself, and nourishing for those children's sense of community and identity - and encouragement to participate in team games and competitive sport! Healthy role models too. Far more important than a prompt Monday morning start in the last week of term - I hope other schools follow suit

I’d have to take mine in because of work. I think it’s a bit unfair on those that have to go in to have the rest of the class rocking up at 10. Although I concede I may be biased.

If work did the same though, I’d be fully onboard.

I think your dh is being miserable, it's a big occasion for a huge number of people!! Watch it, enjoy, also surely your children are nearly on their holidays , give them a break!

Well very few bosses will be allowing late starts so why should schools?
Well adults, on the whole, don't tend to go to bed until after the match will finish anyway - so no different for them
Plus, if it meant that much, many people can either use flex time or book annual leave if they didn't want to be somewhere one Monday morning.

And who will look after the kids while having a lie in if the parents have to be at work at normal time?

OP has already said they can go in at normal time.

I think they should be consistent - if they think that children who are up late should be able to stay in bed a bit longer, that should obviously also apply if a school trip doesn't get them back until 10pm.

The country is in the final, there’s only an opportunity for this once every four years and it’s nearly the end of the school year so new learning is at a minimum. How miserly do you have to be to begrudge one measly hour so that families can enjoy a huge event which might be very important to them? It’s also a nice gesture for the staff who get nothing in the way of perks and are already overworked and underpaid.

Appreciating your staff and valuing family time when big, very infrequent events happen is a great example to set for children. Your DH needs to get over himself.

Perhaps your husband can simply set an example to his own child rather than relying on the school to do so.

They are open, she can go and be educated which is what school is for.

I think its fine, they are open for pupils that want / need to be in school. However our primary also did the same following late night trips such as Young Voices etc.

That sounds really nice.

Ooooh I hope our school does this!

Yeah YABU.

I can't imagine worrying that this would set a bad example to a primary school child.

Well in my household one has Work Experience and the other Activities week! So they’ll be up and about for that. And me and husband work, no different here…

It irritates me because when the olympics are on, or any other sporting event where achievements are made, there are no concessions. It is only for football. And yes I am bias because although I will watch it, my eldest is 8 and has no interest in it so will be in bed for normal time. But to be honest, even if he did want to watch it, he would still be in school for normal time. What does it teach them? If they have an appointment and miss the beginning of the school day they would be marked absent. So why does football mean that they can be late in.

I remember one year in primary it was a big football event. The school opened early, it was wear something England and the cooks even came in early to make bacon butties for the whole school to watch the game.

Now logically it would of been because some parents wouldn’t of bothered to bring their children in, but it felt amazing as a child that day watching the football with our buddies with our bacon butties in school.

Presumably children can still go in at the normal time but they don't have to? So no problem for people who have to get to work?

I remember being at a school play when my dd was in primary school and England were playing and the head announced that they were going to miss out the interval and as soon as they play was finished they would open the fire doors in the hall so people could leg it home.

I can remember how excited all of the children were and dd and I ran home holding hands. She was dressed as Robin Hood. It was lovely and I will always remember it.

I'm sure all the fine examples that your husband sets your dd will negate this.

Your H is being miserable - it’s one day!

Also, lots of workplaces will surely be flexible on Monday

It isn't a gesture to the staff beyond having a few fewer children for the first hour. The school is still open at the same time for those who want/have to send their children.

Lovely to her the memories

Bacon butties ... mmmmm.

I am sure, if England win, there will be many children with happy memories. Or even if they don't. It is going to be a fun occasion for a lot of people.

We would even let DD watch it if she wanted... but she has a particular dislike of football due to the actions of some boys at school.

(And don't worry about DH... he will be setting his good example by coaching his Youth rugby team on Sunday morning, and getting up at 4am for his commute on Monday, like every week)

How nice! Some workplaces (offices) have been screening matched for employees. I don't think it's a bad example to have the odd bit of flexibility.

You are spot on .

No skin in this game as kids are grown but absolutely agree

I'd want them to do the same as they did for the Lionesses!