Late School Start Monday

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Primary School has announced that pupils do not have to be in school on Monday until 10am on Monday due to the football. (However it is open from normal time)

DH believes this is not good, a d setting a bad example

I thinkbthe school is being pragmatic and trying to keep their Stats up... because children will be up late so will be tired and grumpy on Monday morning... so more kate marks and more absences.

However... there has been several occasions where there have been school trips getting back at 10pm... and they were expected in at normal time the next day.

So... is the school being fair here?

(We aren't football fans, but we know people are excited!)

YABU... its a big event, the late start is justified
YANBU... children should be in school at normal time

I'm sure in the school holidays the kids did get an opportunity to have a lie in when the women won. The schools certainly weren't stopping them.

It is unlikely that the youngest classes would be on a trip that returns that late I would imagine. Whereas the youngest pupils may well stay up or be kept up whilst this match is playing.

The school managers are thinking of the well-being of the children. And have been considerate enough to offer two options so that everyone can be catered for. There is no issue here.

Sounds like a great plan. Pragmatic and a fun sense of occasion. Like it or not, it’s going to be the most popular and well watched sporting event, so they’re being sensible.

Re school trips - if mine have been on a trip and got back completely exhausted and not fit for school the next morning, I’ve brought them in late or they’ve had a day off sleeping. I mean, it’s very rare, might have happened once or twice, but I’d just do that without worrying. Eg after d of e, he was so wiped he spent best part of the next day asleep (they didn’t get much sleep in the tent!). So parents have always got that option too.

DD starts her apprenticeship on Monday and today got an email to say that Monday will be a (paid) day off for everybody!
As a teacher a bank holiday would be great but too short notice for many parents to sort out childcare for younger children (if they work in jobs that can't just let the whole workforce off!)

Loads of schools do exactly this after school trips. After Young Voices, for example, all the schools near us have registers closing at 10.

All the comments about schools caring about attendance - it's not the school that cares, it's the government. I'm sure most Heads couldn't give two hoots if children who are achieving well and have good overall attendance have a week on Greece in term time. Plenty of part time teachers take their own children out of school to extend their own holidays. Unfortunately, schools have to follow policy though.

Your husband can set a good example to his rugby team just like the England rugby team did yesterday but supporting the football team. So lovely words from Steve Borthwick today about Gareth Southgate! 😉

a definite air of superiority here as you don’t like football!

Only chat there's been amongst the year 3 group has been a few of us confirming to each other last night that no, we weren't letting our 8 year olds stay up late

How sad. I do feel sorry for your dc.

Why? They weren't that bothered. I told DS the score in the morning and he was excited for about 3 minutes then ran off to do something else.

It would be better if they just said please come in on Monday even if you're tired from the football

Lots of people work in roles where they can flexitime or wfh where they can just catch up by working later. It’s not that rare. Besides they are children mini adults! Not many bosses suppose lunchtime with paid staff to make sure you all get along nicely either 🤣

It will be because of the parents rather than children mostly.

Then the parents need to sort their shit out

That they should be as always it will be the shit ones.

Same as the attendance fines and bs didn’t and doesn’t stop the actual regularly off or late just affects the odd family that book a holiday or two in a school year.

We had this back when my son was younger and when the World Cup was in Korea/Japan and the England match was early am due to time difference. Then it was they were expected to arrive within 30 minutes of the end of the match (allowing for ET and penalties). The kids and parents were on the whole delighted.

It' s no big deal if they are open for those that want or need to drop off at normal time.

One hour and 15 minutes is nothing in the grand scheme of things when you think of the time they spend watching a video at the end of term, kids waiting around when there are shows or sports days where they are participating for 5 minutes.

So sad that some people are such fun sponges at the time of togetherness and a source of happiness for the country.

The match starts at 8pm and could potentially go on until after 10.30pm if it goes to extra time and penalties. As a primary aged child my kids would be in bed by 8 (or maybe 9 by y6) thus they are allowing for later than usual bedtimes for them all assuming they stay up to watch.

It's a bit daft for primary school kids, it's not like they are going to have a hangover. That said, it wouldn't bother me. It would bother me though if I needed to be in work at normal time and usually dropped the kids off on the way.

🤣🤣🤣

The late start on Monday is practical, there’s either going to be a lot of kids turning up late or a lot of cranky tired ones, or both.

But I agree with you about the school being unfair about the school trip where children didn’t get home til
after 10pm and then being expected in normal time the next day. I would have sent mine in when they were ready on that occasion.

I would look at the viewing figures for each and that may give you a clue as to why they do it for the men's football.

It would bother me though if I needed to be in work at normal time and usually dropped the kids off on the way.

It wouldn't make a difference to your normal routine, as the school will be open at the usual time.

It would piss me off no end that they've decided football is so important the child can miss school but if it were something the parent deems important then they could still get "told off" for it

Meh it's for the benefit of parents and teachers. Although I can't imagine the majority would absolutely need a later start at work on Monday.
Hardly a 'cultural' event as someone upthread called it, but it is nice to get children to enthuse about a national team where the scopes are high.
I don't see a problem with a later start, especially so close to end of school year.

Except your child can still go in at the normal time so it really isn't an issue . And they may even get the benefit of working 1 to 1 with the teacher.

Our school have explicitly said children are not to be late Monday morning 😆 I wouldn’t get angry or annoyed by it though if ours did. I imagine it is a bit of a pain for the teachers though in terms of teaching, having kids coming in at different times across the morning.