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Late School Start Monday

237 replies

PuttingDownRoots · 11/07/2024 14:40

Primary School has announced that pupils do not have to be in school on Monday until 10am on Monday due to the football. (However it is open from normal time)

DH believes this is not good, a d setting a bad example

I thinkbthe school is being pragmatic and trying to keep their Stats up... because children will be up late so will be tired and grumpy on Monday morning... so more kate marks and more absences.

However... there has been several occasions where there have been school trips getting back at 10pm... and they were expected in at normal time the next day.

So... is the school being fair here?

(We aren't football fans, but we know people are excited!)

YABU... its a big event, the late start is justified
YANBU... children should be in school at normal time

OP posts:
LutonBeds · 11/07/2024 17:20

It’s not even starting that late though? It’s an 8pm kick off so unless extra time/penalties it’ll be over by 10pm or just after. I don’t get why they’d need to be in later for the sake of maybe an hour or two past their usual bedtimes 🤷‍♀️

Greenlittecat · 11/07/2024 17:24

Yeah the hypocrisy would annoy me but it's one day! I think its nice 🙂

Meganmeccano · 11/07/2024 17:24

Haven't RTFT so sorry if another poster has already said it. Imagine school starts at 8am. I send them to school at 7.30am as usual. At 10am, they haven't arrived and so school marks them absent. I get the absence notification at 10am and realise my kids have been AWOL for over 2 hours. How does the school know which kids are going to arrive late?

Also not fair on the kids who arrive on time that presumably no meaningful learning will start until 10am.

TraumaSalt · 11/07/2024 17:25

Why would a football match make children late the next day?

Iwasafool · 11/07/2024 17:25

LutonBeds · 11/07/2024 17:20

It’s not even starting that late though? It’s an 8pm kick off so unless extra time/penalties it’ll be over by 10pm or just after. I don’t get why they’d need to be in later for the sake of maybe an hour or two past their usual bedtimes 🤷‍♀️

Probably lots of kids are tired at this stage of the term, depending on age I suppose. Late night might just be that step too far and I think it is reasonable to let kids watch. I don't like football but I do remember 1966 and my dad's excitement. Special memory for me as he was taken ill soon after and died 3 months later. Glad I watched it with him and he wasn't even English.

Obviously I'm hoping none of the kids have that particular bittersweet memory, just made me think of it.

ChedderGorgeous · 11/07/2024 17:27

TinyYellow · 11/07/2024 14:46

The country is in the final, there’s only an opportunity for this once every four years and it’s nearly the end of the school year so new learning is at a minimum. How miserly do you have to be to begrudge one measly hour so that families can enjoy a huge event which might be very important to them? It’s also a nice gesture for the staff who get nothing in the way of perks and are already overworked and underpaid.

Appreciating your staff and valuing family time when big, very infrequent events happen is a great example to set for children. Your DH needs to get over himself.

*every 2 years

BlackberrySky · 11/07/2024 17:31

One of the joys of being a child is the winding down of normal school routines in the last couple of weeks of term. These are some of my best school memories and I'm glad they are still happening.

Willsean · 11/07/2024 17:32

They aren't doing this as a treat for the kids, to help out parents, or to spite those who have to go to work.

They'd just rather have more positive attendance data than it already start tailing off right at the start of the last week of term. This way more might still come in, just later.

x2boys · 11/07/2024 17:34

TraumaSalt · 11/07/2024 17:25

Why would a football match make children late the next day?

Well if England win it it will be the biggest tournament they have won since 1966 and the first time on foreign soil ,o imagine quite a few people will be celebrating.

plainjayne8282 · 11/07/2024 17:35

HcbSS · 11/07/2024 14:41

Well very few bosses will be allowing late starts so why should schools? And who will look after the kids while having a lie in if the parents have to be at work at normal time?

This was my initial thought as well.

Do they assume parents all just sit at home and take their kids into school whenever?

macaroniandcheeze · 11/07/2024 17:37

I don’t for football but I also don’t think an hour or so at the end of term makes a huge difference. I am happy to have a random Monday lie in so long as they don’t check whether the kids actually watched the game or not!

macaroniandcheeze · 11/07/2024 17:47

Care* for

HcbSS · 11/07/2024 18:05

plainjayne8282 · 11/07/2024 17:35

This was my initial thought as well.

Do they assume parents all just sit at home and take their kids into school whenever?

I think it’s a great way to teach consequences and resilience. Watch the match, enjoy it, but remember you have commitments the following day and you may feel tired.
And yes we are a football mad family

AloeVerity · 11/07/2024 18:06

I don’t begrudge the idea. But - there are other games with cultural significance. Did this happen when the women played? For Wimbledon? The last Olympics? It seems sexist to me, and smacks of a last minute bid to gain kudos with parents.

cardibach · 11/07/2024 18:13

Itsjustnotcricket11 · 11/07/2024 16:17

Our school is doing the same and I’m absolutely fuming. How can school justify it for a stupid football match but when they are so stuck on rules for things that I would say are more important to myself and us as a family it’s tough.
I’m all for relaxed rules as long as it’s consistent. We just now lie to school about anything we need to do as a family. I know a friend whose kids were refused an afternoon off to attend their parents wedding. It’s just so hypocritical and inconsistent.

Fuming about an optional hour late start in the last week of the a academic year?

I dislike football and generally think pandering to it is unreasonable, but this seems pretty innocuous as it goes.

TraumaSalt · 11/07/2024 18:14

x2boys · 11/07/2024 17:34

Well if England win it it will be the biggest tournament they have won since 1966 and the first time on foreign soil ,o imagine quite a few people will be celebrating.

Didn’t we win something a couple of years ago?

cardibach · 11/07/2024 18:14

plainjayne8282 · 11/07/2024 17:35

This was my initial thought as well.

Do they assume parents all just sit at home and take their kids into school whenever?

School is open at normal time. Just kids can have an optional late start.
Does nobody even read the OP anymore?

cardibach · 11/07/2024 18:16

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 11/07/2024 16:24

I think this is the thing that would rightly annoy people. If you said "we're getting back late from a family wedding, so can my child come in a bit late" it would probably be a firm no and an unauthorised absence. But because the reason is football, it's suddenly fine.

Same with the comments about children getting back late from a school trip but then being expected in.

Which is wrong though? The lack of flexibility normally, or the flexibility now?

Flossflower · 11/07/2024 18:19

Emmacb82 · 11/07/2024 14:49

It irritates me because when the olympics are on, or any other sporting event where achievements are made, there are no concessions. It is only for football. And yes I am bias because although I will watch it, my eldest is 8 and has no interest in it so will be in bed for normal time. But to be honest, even if he did want to watch it, he would still be in school for normal time. What does it teach them? If they have an appointment and miss the beginning of the school day they would be marked absent. So why does football mean that they can be late in.

Yes my children had this twice in their school life. It only seems to be for Mebs football. I call sexism.

cardibach · 11/07/2024 18:19

AloeVerity · 11/07/2024 18:06

I don’t begrudge the idea. But - there are other games with cultural significance. Did this happen when the women played? For Wimbledon? The last Olympics? It seems sexist to me, and smacks of a last minute bid to gain kudos with parents.

Olympics are in the holidays (England and Wales - Scotland and NI too I think). Wimbledon finishes early in the evening.

Beezknees · 11/07/2024 18:20

Not great for parents who have to be at work, it's very late notice!

Blasting · 11/07/2024 18:21

It is such a shame that the match isn't scheduled for Saturday evening. Far more relaxing and social all round!

pinksheetss · 11/07/2024 18:21

Beezknees · 11/07/2024 18:20

Not great for parents who have to be at work, it's very late notice!

Schools are still open at same time so literally zero difference to parents going to work at same time

Beezknees · 11/07/2024 18:22

pinksheetss · 11/07/2024 18:21

Schools are still open at same time so literally zero difference to parents going to work at same time

I see, missed that bit. Fair enough then!

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 11/07/2024 18:33

Which is wrong though? The lack of flexibility normally, or the flexibility now?

I would say the lack of consistency. It either matters, which is fine, or it doesn't, which is also fine.

Well if England win it it will be the biggest tournament they have won since 1966 and the first time on foreign soil ,o imagine quite a few people will be celebrating.

First time the men's team have won since 1966. The women won two years ago.