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3 strikes Mil - I am done with her and going no contact.

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NoContactMil · 11/07/2024 12:50

I am done with my Mil. 3 strikes I’m out, and I will be going no contact really. She has negatively effected my mental health over the past 15 years and is the biggest problem in my marriage. I have name changed as I will likely send this to my Dh and his mother. I am sorry this is a long one.

Strike 1: She tries to dictate and control every aspect of my Dh’s / our lives from very small things to big things. She tries to control all family events and holidays. She treats us like we are incapable children. She wants to know everything, and does not think we are entitled to any privacy. If she doesn’t get her way she will use guilt trips, emotional blackmail, bribery and tantrums.
Examples:

  1. She didn’t want us to have a baby and told Dh "I hope your not trying for a baby" after we got married. When Dh told her I was pregnant she was almost in tears on the phone asking how will we cope. She was also very against me breastfeeding. For the first month after having dc she would ring almost every day asking if I had stopped breastfeeding, and even told Dh if I stop breastfeeding she will buy him a perfect prep machine telling my husband “my friend started formula feeding and they and baby were much happier”.
  2. When we have decided I will be a sahm because of the cost of travel and childcare. Mil told Dh I should just work because I need a job and even tried to bribe him by saying she will pay for part of nursery as my son will be better off in nursery.
  3. She tries to pick out different jobs for Dh and even links him jobs. She got Dh's step father to tell him its nice he enjoys his job but he should be earning more to support his family (we are financially fine and have never asked them for money). The jobs she picks out don't even pay much better. They are just a lot closer to her. She even tried to suggest we buy Dh’s step fathers house he is selling that is round the corner from them (even telling Dh to send a thank you to him as he is trying to be helpful and we should be grateful).
  4. She tried to get us to invite my Sil’s new boyfriend to our christening, I said no. Then Mil and Sil kept sending Dh messages saying we are being awful and they "don't deserve to be treated like this", and that my behaviour is not normal and that “we are tearing the family apart”. They even got Dh’s father involved offering to pay for the food if we invited him.
  5. She is obsessed with what we spend our money on or how much we earn. She told my Dh the maximum amount he should spend on my engagement ring. She demanded to know how much we were going to donate at my sons Christening at the church in front of everyone. For my daughters christening she was hoovering over him watching as he donated the money. Comments why we bought things, or how much things cost. When I recently started a Phd she was demaning to know how much I being paid for doing it.
  6. For family members birthdays she contacts Dh to make sure he sends cards and presents. Sometimes she even tries to pick the present he should get or tell him how much he should spend. She will contact dh many times reminding him and double checking he has done it. She does this if he goes to a friends wedding as well. This is the same for sending people flowers or than you cards. We were too busy to send thank you cards for gifts within a week after the birth of our son so she sent a pack of thank you cards in the post, telling us when we must send them. She does this for family news as well, telling him to text or call friends or family about things. Like you must call so and so to tell them about such and such. Or telling dh that he must send our wedding and christening invites / information to people by a certain time. Or that we must announce the birth on Facebook. She even told Dh who to send our baby scan pictures to.
  7. When we visit for Christmas she would tell Dh I need to talk to other family members more, and I need to make an effort on Christmas day and dress up and wear make-up. You also would get woken up at 7am and told to come to living room in your pyjamas to open presents. I could go on and on - the whole day was controlled. For years it was always us going there for Christmas and boxing day. When we got our first house, the first time we were going to spend it with my parents her reply was "but it could be your grandmothers last Christmas".
  8. She does not even think we are allowed medial privacy – she even asked Dh what vaginal exams I was having after giving birth. I could go on and on....

Strike 2: She will say nasty things all the time and in addition to her terrible behaviour. She will then gaslight and play the victim if you call her out on her behaviour. She will lie and deny a lot of the things I'm saying here.
Examples

  1. My son has had a language delay and behaviour issues since the age of 1. She would constantly insinuate it was our fault asking things like “are we even talking to him” and pointing out his behaviour is “not normal”. One time commenting “don't you even know your own age” in an almost mocking way when he could not answer (dc was age 3). After he was diagnosed as being autistic we asked for an apology for her behaviour towards us all. Instead she denied she said any of it and said “how can you think that of me, an I wont tell step Fil that you think that of me”.
  2. When we were were moving in together and DH was buying a house dh's step father sent an email to both of us insinuating I might be a gold digger so be careful, and make sure we both do what is right.
  3. One weekend we said she couldn't visit because I was really ill with an infection (mastitis). She didn't visit for months and just sent texts implying we were stopping her from seeing her grandchild. She also looked for any minor excuse to try to blame him or scold him for something for months.
  4. She will make comments about our appearance – like I should make an effort and wear makeup and I would look better. If Dh puts on a little weight, she tells him he needs to walk to work (5 miles away), only have 1 meal a day, asks if he is eating to much junk food, and when she visits touches his belly and makes comments.
  5. She treats Bil wife better. When Bil's wife was in a car accident (did not need to go to hospital) she demanded we send her cards and flowers. When I was hospitalized for a week due to pneumonia while 25 weeks pregnant, I did not even get a message from Bil and Sil, never mind a card.
  6. As we have gone more low contact over the years she is constantly saying my behaviour is “not normal”.

Strike 3: She tries to control people with money and is obsessed with money. And now she is trying to take some of Dh’s inheritence he got from his grandfather decades ago. Mil thinks Dh and his 2 siblings should pay towards her mothers (their grandmothers) burial and the debt she had when she died. Dh's grandmother had no money/ savings, no house/ estate when she died and the debt was overpaid pension and gas/ electric bill. My mil has over half a million in savings (i know because she recently sold 2 of her houses), and lives in a 5 bedroom house. We have two young children and live in a small 3 bedroom house and trying to save every penny for a bigger house. I have not been able to work for the previous 6 years because my son has been quite high needs.

AIBU to go zero contact, and send her this mumsnet post. Me and my children are not making any effort with her, not visiting her or staying at her house. She is not having unsupervised access to my children. My foot is down on this - she is Dh’s problem. Mil and Dh can complain all they like. It's if she wants to visit us she can, but if she tries to be manipulative or controlling, or point out what my children can’t do – then she won’t be seeing them at all. The only issue is do I supervise her when she is with my children as I can't trust Dh to do anything if she manipulate or insults our children. She will never change, she will just gaslight or play the victim, so I am done with her.

OP posts:
DracoDormiensNumquamTittilandum · 11/07/2024 12:53

Don't send her the post. No good can come of it. Assuming your DH is in agreement, just stop talking to her and seeing her. You aren't obliged to. He can do any communication necessary.

GabriellaMontez · 11/07/2024 12:59

DracoDormiensNumquamTittilandum · 11/07/2024 12:53

Don't send her the post. No good can come of it. Assuming your DH is in agreement, just stop talking to her and seeing her. You aren't obliged to. He can do any communication necessary.

This.

LoveWine123 · 11/07/2024 12:59

Don't send this as she will have written evidence against you. Just quietly reduce contact and tell your DH you are done.

Moier · 11/07/2024 13:02

Didn't you have a post last week.. just about paying towards the funeral / and MIL having over half a million etc?
If not then someone in same boat .
If that's the way you feel.
Tell your DH to deal with her.
And you do what you feel is best.
I miss my MIL.
Even though l divorced her son ( she knew he was a wrong un and on my side). He didn't even go to her funeral.. ( l did,)

NoContactMil · 11/07/2024 13:02

Don't send this as she will have written evidence against you how could she use it against me? There is not much else she can do at this point.

Also not sure why there is all that spacing between my sentances.

OP posts:
marigoldandrose · 11/07/2024 13:02

Don't send her this and tbh as your married it's also up to your husband whether and to what extent his family see your children

Sparklfairy · 11/07/2024 13:03

AIBU to go zero contact, and send her this mumsnet post.

So you want your mic drop moment? Going NC isn't about making a big drama about it, it's about protecting yourself. Decide which you want, because you can't have both.

BowlOfNoodles · 11/07/2024 13:04

Can't offer you any advice but it's completely valid that you're fucking this witch off.

AnnaMagnani · 11/07/2024 13:06

Do not under any circumstances send her your post.

It will achieve nothing except more drama.

Just phase her out.

Has your DH ever, even once, stood up to her? If not then he is the bigger problem.

RomanRoysSearchHistory · 11/07/2024 13:06

Go 'grey rock'.
Sending a narcissist this post will result in you being the 'bad person' and likely a HUGE reaction. You aren't dealing with a reasonable person so you won't get a reasonable response.
Honestly this post would be used against you for the rest of your days/marriage, putting your DH (sounds like he's just as much as a victim here) in an awful position too. Assert your boundaries quietly and google Grey Rock method.

MeAgainAndAgain · 11/07/2024 13:07

’The best revenge is living well’ or something like that.

Delete her from your mind. Spend that time and mental space thinking about that new recipe or that plant you want to buy or the colour you fancy painting the hallway. Something to think about, it doesn’t matter how mundane.

The more you meditate on her, the more you’re becoming absorbed by her.

NowyouhaveDunnett · 11/07/2024 13:08

Fgs do not send that. No need to have a big confrontation. Just stop responding to calls and messages.

Tell DH he has to deal with her now and you won't be spending anymore time with her.

Oh and both of you, stop telling her stuff.

Hoppinggreen · 11/07/2024 13:08

You didn't need to write all that and you don't need to do anything dramatic or even speak to her.
Tell Dh that he is now responsible for all communication with his family and any messages to you just refer them to him.
No dramatic flounce or email needed, just decide to have no relationship with her.
You can choose to see her/not see her but keep the drama low and treat her like a work aquaintance or similar

Knittedfairies2 · 11/07/2024 13:10

Definitely don't send her the post. Just drop the rope and stop letting her live in your head.

HoorayHurrah · 11/07/2024 13:11

You say she AND your DH can complain all they like? It sounds as if he doesn't agree with you. Could that cause problems down the line

BowlOfNoodles · 11/07/2024 13:13

NowyouhaveDunnett · 11/07/2024 13:08

Fgs do not send that. No need to have a big confrontation. Just stop responding to calls and messages.

Tell DH he has to deal with her now and you won't be spending anymore time with her.

Oh and both of you, stop telling her stuff.

This never fails silence 🔕 is the winner here.

Scarlettpixie · 11/07/2024 13:13

Don’t send her the post. That is just adding drama. Just tell DH that from now on any contact is with him. You can’t stop him taking the children to see her. He is their parent too. It does seem that you have both been allowing this to continue by responding to her demands. If she asks personal stuff just say its non of your business or you don’t want to talk about it. Demanding to know how much you are paid? Not up for discussion and repeat. Make sure your Dh is on the same page or he will just keep telling her stuff when you aren’t there.

Heronwatcher · 11/07/2024 13:15

Just go NC. If you send her all of this she will just be compelled to set out her side of the argument. There’s a difference between protecting yourself/ your kids and pointlessly stirring up family drama.

If she does want an explanation I would do it in person- but not back down from the NC unless you’re really convinced she’ll change.

WhatMe123 · 11/07/2024 13:15

I would not send this op. It could be used to show you in a bad light as in yes all the examples add up but on their own they're just things that a person could just roll their eyes at and move on/ignore. Just slowly phase her out id say

Julyshouldbesunny · 11/07/2024 13:18

No need she has your mobile number.. Let her rant at dh.
My ils never had my mobile number.. Made for a much better life.

Pottedpalm · 11/07/2024 13:18

Stop storing up all the things she does which annoy you, and use your time and energy for something more productive than typing it all out on here.
She only has the power over you that you allow her to have.

Kitchenwitchery · 11/07/2024 13:19

Where is your DH in all this? What is his view and how does he react to her behaviours? Does he take your side? She’s his mother and he should be the one dealing with her.

Tdcp · 11/07/2024 13:21

MeAgainAndAgain · 11/07/2024 13:07

’The best revenge is living well’ or something like that.

Delete her from your mind. Spend that time and mental space thinking about that new recipe or that plant you want to buy or the colour you fancy painting the hallway. Something to think about, it doesn’t matter how mundane.

The more you meditate on her, the more you’re becoming absorbed by her.

This is the stance I took with my mother. No words have been exchanged on my part. It's been 5.5 years since we last spoke. She tells family it's down to me and all that but I know the truth, that's enough. Good luck.

NoContactMil · 11/07/2024 13:21

it's also up to your husband whether and to what extent his family see your children what so she can subject my children to this behaviour and effect their mental health like she has mine, and bully my disabled son and point out what he can't do due to his disabilities. That is not happening, as I can't trust Dh to do anything about it when she does this to my children

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IsawwhatIsaw · 11/07/2024 13:24

Never mind her, what’s your DH doing about all this? Think he could be your bigger problem

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