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I'm a MILF apparently...

350 replies

JustAnotherIdiotAgain · 10/07/2024 04:39

Just seen a WhatsApp chat (showed to me by DP) where I have been referred to by one of his friends as a MILF.... I'm fucking fuming. Trying not to overreact but the bloody cheek...
Personally I find this dismissive and insulting but didn't think I would be quite this angry. Happy to be told I'm overreacting but not sure I can let this slide!

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Lifeisamysterytome · 10/07/2024 08:04

On MN there are so many threads about men treating women appallingly - not just cheating but treating their partners as the domestic help. There to service their needs and provide them with children and sex. Whilst quite often the man goes out and behaves as if he is single.The attitude of the men in these threads is that women are less than human.

How are men ever going to change in their attitude towards women if they are not challenged? And this includes challenging so called " lads chat" where " men" bond by talking in a demeaning and disrespectful way.

I find it really sad so many pp on this thread willing to dismiss this conversation between OP's partner and his pals as normal, as banter. " Boys will be boys " stuff. So many pp saying being called a MILF wouldn't bother them. They are happy to be reduced to being viewed just as sex objects. Others thinking it's OK if teenage boys use the expression, when in fact it's probably more important to challenge their use of such a derogatory term and their views of women because they are the next generation of potentially shit partners.

No wonder a lot of men behave as they do when their views and behaviour is never challenged and a lot of women enable them.

Livelaughlurgy · 10/07/2024 08:08

I would assume it's ironic. As in 20 years ago when American Pie came out we were all talking about MILF's and now our wives are the MILF's lol. However I - in my innocence- had no idea how precedent it was in porn. So I'd be starting with a chat to DH.

tuvamoodyson · 10/07/2024 08:12

Rosscameasdoody · 10/07/2024 07:53

Laughing it off is still not the same as being flattered !!

Then we have a difference of opinion, which is fine.

Chartreux · 10/07/2024 08:12

BeeBonnet15 · 10/07/2024 05:16

Couldn’t read your post properly for all the tickets on yourself 😁

Tickets? Can anyone translate?

MWNA · 10/07/2024 08:13

BeeBonnet15 · 10/07/2024 05:16

Couldn’t read your post properly for all the tickets on yourself 😁

🤣

tuvamoodyson · 10/07/2024 08:13

Oldcroneandthreewitches · 10/07/2024 07:51

I think that’s pretty tame tbh.

I worked in a very male dominated industry and the some of the mens watsap groups where absolutely vile and probably should be handed over to the police.

Really nice young lads I’d worked with for years with and been out on staff dos sharing the fucking worst videos. So when I hear ‘not all men’ I think ‘yeah right how the fuck would you know?’

You know all men??

LaMarschallin · 10/07/2024 08:15

BeeBonnet15

Couldn’t read your post properly for all the tickets on yourself 😁

Had to Google that.
Do you think it's a stealth boast then?

Edited to show what I found when I Googled:

have tickets on oneself in American English. Austral slang. to be conceited

Starrynights9 · 10/07/2024 08:16

Wait until your called a GILF 🤦‍♀️
The day the majority of men stop looking, thinking & commenting to each other about attractive women there will be a blue moon in the sky. As long as this comment wasn't said to my face I'd brush it off as certain lads chat probably said through drink. My DH wouldn't mention this to me nor can I imagine his friends speaking like this but never say never, men will be men.

PadstowGirl · 10/07/2024 08:17

Nice bunch of friends your DH has got there.🙄. Does your DH think you'd be flattered by the male attention?or did he frame it as "You'll never believe what that wanker Dave has written, I'll have to have it out with him".

InsolentNoise · 10/07/2024 08:19

PonkyPonky · 10/07/2024 06:30

All men talk like this when there’s no women around to hear it. Even the quiet ones. Even the nice respectful ones. I’m the only female in an all male workplace and subsequently they’ve all let their guard down around me and I can assure you that even your lovely husbands that wouldn’t say boo to a goose… talk about women like this

Plenty of women talk like this about men, too.

I’m not disagreeing with you, btw. Just saying that it’s very common in both sexes.

JustAnotherIdiotAgain · 10/07/2024 08:19

DP and I are both mid forties but his friend is younger. There was a further derogatory comment by this person which has only made me angrier. Someone posted about MILF being a term used in porn and I think that is what triggered me.

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CrimpNStraighten · 10/07/2024 08:20

renthead · 10/07/2024 07:04

It's a bit odd to use the term to describe someone your own age, and it's kind of crass, but depending on who wrote it I'd probably be flattered tbh! At the very least I'd struggle to be offended.

Do you also take wolf-whistling and cat-calling as compliments?

JustAnotherIdiotAgain · 10/07/2024 08:22

Oh and I'm certainly not flattered by this. No tickets here. I've basically been reduced to a slang porn type by someone who doesn't even know me and won't ever now get the chance to.

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Lifeisamysterytome · 10/07/2024 08:22

Oldcroneandthreewitches · 10/07/2024 07:51

I think that’s pretty tame tbh.

I worked in a very male dominated industry and the some of the mens watsap groups where absolutely vile and probably should be handed over to the police.

Really nice young lads I’d worked with for years with and been out on staff dos sharing the fucking worst videos. So when I hear ‘not all men’ I think ‘yeah right how the fuck would you know?’

Well they can't have been "really nice " can they?
And if the chats were so vile they should have been handed over to the police why didn't you hand them over to the police?

bonzaitree · 10/07/2024 08:24

If your husband didn’t associate with men who spoke like this then he would have no mates. Because they all say stuff like that. Milf is pretty tame I’d say.

BeBrickPlayer · 10/07/2024 08:25

What does it mean?

RubyShoesday · 10/07/2024 08:25

I know I’m in the minority…. but if it was said about me, I’d first think ewwww, but then secretly take it as a compliment 😂🤭

HeadNorth · 10/07/2024 08:26

I don't agree with the posters claiming it is normal for all men - we must mix in very different circles. I cannot imagine anyone making a smutty comment about me to DH. He is not a smutty comment person regardless of the context. Add to that he would not in any way give the impression you could make disparaging remarks about his wife in his presence.

It sounds like your DH and his coterie do not really respect women and see them as equals. It is your DH you have this issue with. He needs to work on his atitude to women and how he talks about them as he must have set the tone that his friend felt safe to make such a crass and in appropriate comment to him - and to commit it to writing. It is vile.

doggolove · 10/07/2024 08:27

BeBrickPlayer · 10/07/2024 08:25

What does it mean?

mother I'd like to fuck.

Really rude thing to say about someone's wife

Lifeisamysterytome · 10/07/2024 08:27

BeBrickPlayer · 10/07/2024 08:25

What does it mean?

Mother I'd like to Fuck.

CrimpNStraighten · 10/07/2024 08:27

Rosscameasdoody · 10/07/2024 07:53

Laughing it off is still not the same as being flattered !!

Agree. Women are conditioned to laugh and cope with sexist ‘banter’ in order not to seem like an uptight prude etc. They are not meant to make a fuss, even when upset and angry inside. ‘Smile love!’ ‘Can’t you take a joke’. etc. We are meant to see this crap as flattering when in fact it’s a display of misygyny and power.

blankittyblank · 10/07/2024 08:27

Buildingthefuture · 10/07/2024 07:45

Couldn’t get worked up about this. And, I totally agree with @PonkyPonky Having spent 25 years in a similar working environment to you, they ALL do it. All of them. And yes, I will call them out on it but what I have never seen, in all that time, is a man call out another man on it. My experience is that this, to men, is “just banter”.

No they don't!! Maybe all men of a certain type do. But not ALL men.

CrimpNStraighten · 10/07/2024 08:27

RubyShoesday · 10/07/2024 08:25

I know I’m in the minority…. but if it was said about me, I’d first think ewwww, but then secretly take it as a compliment 😂🤭

That’s depressing.

Oldcroneandthreewitches · 10/07/2024 08:30

blankittyblank · 10/07/2024 08:27

No they don't!! Maybe all men of a certain type do. But not ALL men.

Aw can you not imagine your little prince watching a hard core porn video on a watsap group 😂😂

JustAnotherIdiotAgain · 10/07/2024 08:31

DP initially said oh don't worry it's just banter but also said he would call him out as he could tell I was offended. Just checked the group chat and he hasn't said anything. Yes he shouldn't have shown me his lads chat but I can't unsee it now! And I'm still pissed off waking up this morning. I not usually prone to sense of humour failures but this has got to me.

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