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To not look at this couple in the same way anymore?

706 replies

AvrilAprill · 07/07/2024 23:17

At the end of last year I made friends with a mum who’d just moved to the area. We got on great, as did our partners.

However, I’ve now found out that they first got together when she was 16 and he was 20/21. It genuinely makes me feel uncomfortable knowing that, and my husband says I’m being weird

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Sondheimisademigod · 08/07/2024 06:45

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 07/07/2024 23:21

Yeah, that’s grim.

Why? Give us a rational explanation. You too, @AvrilAprill
Or are you both just passing judgement? But we know the answer to that question.
Neither of you are the aebiters of morality.
Less than 100 years ago, it was the norm to get married and have kids at 16; ffs, women are at their most fertile from late teens to late 20s.
Not everyone wants to stay in education, or have a career. They wanntcto be parents. Presumably you both are passing judgement because you had kinds at what you percieve to be a sensible age?
Some 16 year old are far more mature than the people on MN. A couple of names on this thread spring to mind immediately
Let's hope your kids don't end up pregnant or fathering a child at 16

GiveOverAndOver · 08/07/2024 06:47

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 08/07/2024 00:36

There's a couple who are on Channel 5 quite regularly, who have now been married for two decades or more, but who were (iirc) 14 and 18 when they got together.

I have seen it come up time and again on here, where people always opine that it was very dubious on his (the then-18yo's) part - and I agree; but going on the attitudes of most people on this thread, I presume we would just be being horrible and judgmental to even mention it, let alone find it uncomfortable, considering that they are now still together, several children down the line?

14 and 18 is not the same as 16 and 20. Obviously the age gap is the same, but no one over 18 should be sniffing round someone under 16.

Sondheimisademigod · 08/07/2024 06:47

Politicians247UnderwearExtinguishingService · 08/07/2024 00:01

I'm surprised at the unanimous reactions on here. I know that they were both of legal age, and that many couples in similar situations do stay together long-term; but I personally find it quite concerning.

I know it's just my opinion, and it isn't prescribed by law at all, but I think the age of consent being 16 is probably primarily intended for both parties being 16/17. Somebody who has been an adult for two or three years going after a sexual partner who won't be an adult for another two years is, just in my view, predatory.

Pathetic

AmelieTaylor · 08/07/2024 06:48

Rosscameasdoody · 08/07/2024 00:13

Oh dear. I was 17 and my husband was 25 when we started dating. He was my first and only boyfriend - a good man and a kind and caring husband for forty years until he died six years ago. We were inseparable almost from the start and didn’t think anything of the age gap - neither did our parents. How times change !!

@Rosscameasdoody

im sorry your DH died so young & you've been deprived of your Golden Years together. I swear they don't make them the same anyone. It was a shorter time together than you should have had, but quality over quantity xx

Sarah2891 · 08/07/2024 06:49

You're being silly. I went on dates with a 20 year old when I was 16, but I was very mature so it didn't feel like there was any gap in our ages.

WonderingAboutThus · 08/07/2024 06:49

Your entire "case", insofar as you have one, is based on your presumption of sex between the two of them at that time. And a bunch of further presumptions about what that sex was like.

Stick your nose elsewhere.

WhereDoWeGoFromHereHmmm · 08/07/2024 06:50

This wouldn't even register on my radar.

Sondheimisademigod · 08/07/2024 06:50

Caerulea · 08/07/2024 00:41

My jaw has dropped further & further reading these replies! Who ARE you people? 'oh but she's legal now', how very The Sun.

A 20yo has no business being with a 16yo whichever way round it is. Christ it's vile! The latter is still in school ffs.

OP - I'd not change my relationship with her/them based on it, though, assuming they are both adults (WHICH 16 WASN'T!!) & their relationship is healthy.

So non-asults can join the army, legally get married, etc. But YOU don't think it is right...
It's like Les Dawson doing his Ada chatacter here. All folded arm under having bosums and gurning

Maria1979 · 08/07/2024 06:51

When I was 16 I could easily pass for 20. I worked at week-ends and went to the pub with older friends hence my boy friends at the time tended to be around 20. But I was mature for my age and most 20 year old boys are not so the gap you're talking about was non existant in my situation. Give the couple a break, clearly it worked out fine. Look at Macron who met his then 40 year old wife when he was 16!!! Now, that was disgusting cause she was his drama teacher. But now decades later, who cares?

ShiftySquirrel · 08/07/2024 06:51

I don't think this is weird - it was pretty common when I was that age in the late 90s.

But I would say my teens would find it incredibly weird. It's not a thing at all at school to date anyone even out of your own year. That may change when they get to 6th form.

Edingril · 08/07/2024 06:51

Wouldn't it be easier to hand a questionnaire out to people so potential friends know what you think is acceptable or not?

CatrionaBalfour · 08/07/2024 06:52

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 07/07/2024 23:21

Yeah, that’s grim.

Why is it "grim"?

Sondheimisademigod · 08/07/2024 06:53

CyanideShake · 08/07/2024 00:48

you don't know what generation each poster comes from so you can't really use the 'oh you're just a pack of dinosaurs'.

Oh they can!
Anyone with morals, or who thinks gentle parenting is a fucking ridiculous, is a dinosaur or an old person who has ruined life for the generations following..

CatrionaBalfour · 08/07/2024 06:53

WhereDoWeGoFromHereHmmm · 08/07/2024 06:50

This wouldn't even register on my radar.

Me neither.

CatrionaBalfour · 08/07/2024 06:54

I genuinely don't understand the problem. A 16 year old going out with a 20/21 year old? Why is this an issue?

anonymous98 · 08/07/2024 06:57

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Now that really is creepy

AmelieTaylor · 08/07/2024 06:58

myotherdogisadonkey · 08/07/2024 06:27

Grim. Different if it was say, 80 odd years ago but nope grim. I agree OP

@myotherdogisadonkey
🤣🤣🤣

im 55 it was perfectly acceptable when I was a teenager,

LordPercyPercy · 08/07/2024 06:58

It was all over Facebook and insta too

Twenty and on fb? Leave that to your nan 😂

FlowerHandle · 08/07/2024 06:59

IncompleteSenten · 08/07/2024 00:17

4 years is a huge gap when it's 16 and 20. Massive.
50 and 54 for example is nothing but 16 and 20 is uncomfortable. I'd feel the same for a moment im sure but how old are they now?

I feel the same. Adults dating children will
always gross me out. I worry about the vulnerability of the younger party and find the older one either immature or predatory/creepy.

Iaskedyouthrice · 08/07/2024 06:59

These responses are so contrary but it's not as funny as it normally is when it's discussing young girls.
I doubt very much any (female) poster here would be happy with their 16 year old dd seeing a 20 year old. The differences in life experience at these specific ages are huge.
I would judge my 20 year old son if he started seeing a 16 year old, I would worry about him choosing someone with NO life experience.
So to come on here and insist there's nothing wrong with it mainly to stick it to an OP... I don't like that. Not one bit. It is not something that should be encouraged, girls have enough shit to deal with these days.

LakeTiticaca · 08/07/2024 06:59

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What a devastating blow that must be for the PP 🤣

Sondheimisademigod · 08/07/2024 06:59

OhcantthInkofaname · 08/07/2024 01:53

Wasn't Queen Elizabeth 13 when she first met Prince Phillip, who was 18?

Yes, but I don't think they got jiggy until she was a bit older. I mean, when she was married. But that WAS a different generation.
Now it seems that anyone can sleep with whomsoever they want, whenever they want, married or not.
Unless you're on MN, in which case, it's whoever the coven deems suitable

charlieinthehaystack · 08/07/2024 07:00

You dont know the full history they were ok before you knew this just let it be

AmelieTaylor · 08/07/2024 07:01

CatrionaBalfour · 08/07/2024 06:54

I genuinely don't understand the problem. A 16 year old going out with a 20/21 year old? Why is this an issue?

@CatrionaBalfour I think because people in the U.K. now treat 16/17 year olds like children, yet expect them to instantly be adults at 18. Whereas when I was a teenager I was expected to be much more mature & definitely not a child.

anonymous98 · 08/07/2024 07:01

Sondheimisademigod · 08/07/2024 06:45

Why? Give us a rational explanation. You too, @AvrilAprill
Or are you both just passing judgement? But we know the answer to that question.
Neither of you are the aebiters of morality.
Less than 100 years ago, it was the norm to get married and have kids at 16; ffs, women are at their most fertile from late teens to late 20s.
Not everyone wants to stay in education, or have a career. They wanntcto be parents. Presumably you both are passing judgement because you had kinds at what you percieve to be a sensible age?
Some 16 year old are far more mature than the people on MN. A couple of names on this thread spring to mind immediately
Let's hope your kids don't end up pregnant or fathering a child at 16

Maybe it's me - but I've never met a teenager who is more sensible or mature than an adult, even an "immature for their age" adult.

Even a smart teenager is still a teenager. I was an idiot at 16.