To be mildly astonished at these moms?

[ShutterNutBosh]

Hullo good afternoon.

I'm a parent of an 18 year old lad.

He's going on a group holiday with 7 friends tomorrow to Ibiza.

We have a moms' group chat. Had it for many years as 5 of from primary joined the same secondary school together and we've socialised since as families and 3 other moms have joined over the years as their children palled up with our 5.

It appears that several of the moms are packing for their offspring for this trip.

I'm a smidge astounded at this, these are captured children who are mostly off to university soon. This doesn't seem to be helping to pack, it's actually packing for them. 🤨 a couple have mentioned its just easier that way, one child is swampy in bed with a hangover.

Where's the encouragement to independence?

YABU: it's fine for moms (or parents but in this case is definitely the female parents) to pack for 18 year Olds.

YANBU: a bit of guidance or nowt help at all is the way to go

I've got three, all teens now, with no SEN. While at the age of five they could have trotted about fetching teddies and toothbrushes etc, it would've have been a much longer process telling them what they needed, how many of each, long sleeves or short sleeves etc etc, that it would've driven me mad and was always going to be much quicker to shove their stuff quickly in our cases myself. Not to mention that when the eldest was five, I would've also had a three year old and one year old and making my life easier was priority. Supervising tiny children packing was not a priority!

They've not suffered in any way as they're all perfectly capable of packing a case now as teenagers, and I saved myself a shit load of hassle when they were little.

Totally understand, it's just that a 5 year old is more than capable.

I'd be annoyed by that. A 20 year old is not a kid and needs to get their act together and stop relying on parents to run around picking up the pieces after them.