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Kier Starmer - what he'll be like as a PM

265 replies

Dibbydoos · 02/07/2024 05:34

So this is the first time Ive seen anything written about Kier Starmer and I like the man described.

Am I being unreasonable?

www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/how-keir-starmer-s-past-shows-what-he-would-be-like-as-prime-minister/ar-BB1peeCe?ocid=nl_article_link&cvid=68253a8bd44444739b56e177e78f2264&ei=21

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RedOrBlueOrYellow · 02/07/2024 10:48

Idtotallybangdreamoftheendlessnotgonnalie · 02/07/2024 10:28

It's politics not X factor. Voting for popular "acts" is what has created this mess.

Don't vote for the person you want to go down the pub with, vote for the person you'd want to be your kids headteacher or the person who deals with your complaint at PALS or your accountant. I wouldn't have faith in Rishi Sunak to be any of those things, and the idea of Nigel Farage doing it makes me shudder.

We need to step back from the idea of politics as entertainment. I think we also need to look at compromise, particularly with women's rights/trans issues. There's a path to be forged but it's not going to happen arguing in absolutes and sniping at each other.

💯

Staplerandstappler · 02/07/2024 10:55

The absolute state of the latest Tory attempt to smear Starmer - he says he makes a point of finishing work at 6pm to spend time with his family. Which is a sensible, nice thing. The Tories try to smear him as a “part-time Prime Minister”.

Absolutely, utterly desperate.

Who is actually advising the Tories, because they have zero political instinct.

MrsSkylerWhite · 02/07/2024 10:59

KoiKoiKoi
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You think? I think we'll be at war with Russia within a few months if they get in.

Please explain why.

WiseBiscuit · 02/07/2024 11:02

He’s a barrister by trade, they are practiced manipulators and expert liars.

MeinKraft · 02/07/2024 11:02

Luio · 02/07/2024 08:00

This a very fawning article but he sounds fine. I don’t agree with his politics though. There is a bit of evangelical zeal about some of the posts on Keir Starmer on mn. He will certainly have to be a miracle worker to sort this country out.

I think most of us are just excited to have someone as PM who's had a proper job before and isn't a total cunt.

FatOaf · 02/07/2024 11:03

he says he makes a point of finishing work at 6pm to spend time with his family. Which is a sensible, nice thing.

No, he didn't say this. He said he tries to finish at 6 pm on Fridays to have one evening a week with his family.

Grant Shitts's torrent of lies on Twatter just sums up the barrel of turds that is the Conservative Party.

FatOaf · 02/07/2024 11:05

He’s a barrister by trade, they are practiced [sic] manipulators and expert liars.

Margaret Thatcher was a barrister. Did you say the same about her?

WiseBiscuit · 02/07/2024 11:08

FatOaf · 02/07/2024 11:05

He’s a barrister by trade, they are practiced [sic] manipulators and expert liars.

Margaret Thatcher was a barrister. Did you say the same about her?

Edited

I was a young child in the Thatcher years so didn’t have much of an opinion at the time, but yes I am sure I would‘ve.

MrsSkylerWhite · 02/07/2024 11:09

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Margaret Thatcher was a barrister. Did you say the same about her

Was she? I thought she was a research chemist?

MrsSkylerWhite · 02/07/2024 11:11

Mei kraft

I think most of us are just excited to have someone as PM who's had a proper job before and isn't a total cunt.

🤣 I think you’re probably right.

SlothOnARope · 02/07/2024 11:11

It's important for people not to get hooked on a new personality.

Why aren't people concentrating on the women people in their communities who will actually be driving change, instead of hoping for St Keir to save them.

TeenagersAngst · 02/07/2024 11:16

MrsSkylerWhite · 02/07/2024 11:09

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Margaret Thatcher was a barrister. Did you say the same about her

Was she? I thought she was a research chemist?

She was both

WiseBiscuit · 02/07/2024 11:19

SlothOnARope · 02/07/2024 11:11

It's important for people not to get hooked on a new personality.

Why aren't people concentrating on the women people in their communities who will actually be driving change, instead of hoping for St Keir to save them.

I am, I really like our female Conservative MP and am voting for her (Alicia Kearns).

I wouldn’t vote for the Labour candidate for a billion pounds.

annabelindajane · 02/07/2024 11:20

I’m sure he’s a decent man as Sunak is . Look across the channel and across the Atlantic and see what’s going on there .

I won’t be voting Labour as unfortunately they are gripped by green ideologies
which intend to cover the countryside in Pylons and Turbines .
Vast subsidies and constrainment payments go into these products which are going to make electricity very expensive which in turn will drive business out of the country . This in turn will harm economy from which all else grows. This has happened in Germany where they have finally realised a reversal is required .

Ed Milliband has been noticeable by his absence!

Plus they are confused by biological sex which is incredibly straightforward.

MermaidEyes · 02/07/2024 11:20

FatOaf · 02/07/2024 11:03

he says he makes a point of finishing work at 6pm to spend time with his family. Which is a sensible, nice thing.

No, he didn't say this. He said he tries to finish at 6 pm on Fridays to have one evening a week with his family.

Grant Shitts's torrent of lies on Twatter just sums up the barrel of turds that is the Conservative Party.

Saw the funniest response to this on twitter, "We all know what Bojo was doing after 6pm on Fridays during Covid. Give up, it's over" 🤣

MermaidEyes · 02/07/2024 11:23

I am, I really like our female Conservative MP and am voting for her (Alicia Kearns).

Well my female conservative MP is a total waste of space who blocks everyone who dares to disagree with her and only wheels herself out if there's a photo opportunity. So I definitely won't be voting for her.

Parrotcoop · 02/07/2024 11:24

I kbwo someone who worked for him at the CPS. Apparently he's absolutely cut throat and not a push over at all. Fair, but stands for no nonsense.

RoseUnder · 02/07/2024 11:28

Good article, paints an attractive picture of Keir Starmer as leader of the country.

I think he'll be popular, especially on the international stage, where Britain has lost great influence since Brexit, and due to our unreliable, inconsistent and at times offensive leaders over the last decade

Whatafustercluck · 02/07/2024 11:41

Staplerandstappler · 02/07/2024 10:55

The absolute state of the latest Tory attempt to smear Starmer - he says he makes a point of finishing work at 6pm to spend time with his family. Which is a sensible, nice thing. The Tories try to smear him as a “part-time Prime Minister”.

Absolutely, utterly desperate.

Who is actually advising the Tories, because they have zero political instinct.

Edited

Indeed. This from the party who gave us a PM who didn't show up for half the Cobra meetings he should have, preferring to hob nob and party with his cronies. At least with KS, you'll know that when he says he's working he's actually working and, I should think, working bloody hard too. Of course there will be times when, as PM, he'll need to be contactable and show up at all hours. But that doesn't mean it should be the 'norm'. Only a government in complete chaos, or in the throes of a national emergency, needs an omnipresent PM. The Tories are desperate: "highly principled, competent, hard working man puts family first" is hardly a hanging offence. I wish there were more of these kinds of men being spoken about on MN, instead of the selfish, entitled, high earning, 'important', family avoiding twats we so frequently read about. But then I suppose they'll all be off to vote Tory anyway.

SlothOnARope · 02/07/2024 11:44

WiseBiscuit · 02/07/2024 11:19

I am, I really like our female Conservative MP and am voting for her (Alicia Kearns).

I wouldn’t vote for the Labour candidate for a billion pounds.

OK fair enough, but she'll still be swallowed up by the corruption in Westminster.

I meant the unelected ordinary people. Why are people not looking to their own communities for inspiration, when the party politics and centralised systems haven't worked for decades. So much energy wasted on pointless Tory-Labour battles it's exhausting.

ForKeenDeer · 02/07/2024 11:46

He is a dick and it will be proven very soon. A wet wipe puppet of Davos. Literally licking their arses in an interview where he was saying Davos are his first priority. Good luck to all you delusional people who think he will be any good 😊

DisappearingGirl · 02/07/2024 11:49

I think Keir will be good. I am 99% sure he'll be better than the last 5 or so Tory PMs.

Re the women with penises thing. I think this is nonsense, same as many on here. However it's naive to think he can just say this without losing loads of votes. Many many of my otherwise lovely, educated friends, colleagues, work contacts in other organisations etc have pronouns on their emails, and that's not to mention the massive youth vote. One slip in either direction on gender ideology and Labour could lose the election, so I actually have some sympathy with them sitting on the fence on this. Also the Tories have done nothing practical to solve it in the past 14 years and are only using it as an election soundbite (which won't lose them votes as they have a different voter base).

Staplerandstappler · 02/07/2024 11:51

FatOaf · 02/07/2024 11:03

he says he makes a point of finishing work at 6pm to spend time with his family. Which is a sensible, nice thing.

No, he didn't say this. He said he tries to finish at 6 pm on Fridays to have one evening a week with his family.

Grant Shitts's torrent of lies on Twatter just sums up the barrel of turds that is the Conservative Party.

Yes, I should’ve clarified that it’s only on a Friday. Yet the Tories appear not to realise, almost like they’re lying about it, or something?

mansplainingsincethe90s · 02/07/2024 11:56

SheldontheWonderSchlong · 02/07/2024 06:41

Not that sensible if he believes men can be women - so unfortunately either a liar, a coward or stupid. Which is a real shame.

Or he believes sincerely that trans people should be respected like anyone else.

pinkspeakers · 02/07/2024 11:57

Arewealljustloosingtheplot · 02/07/2024 09:27

He’s a bit of a wet fish imo. What’s wild about the Labour Party is it’s full of privately educated toffs who still privately educate THEIR kids but they want the population to actual believe they are there for working class people. They really aren’t. You want more benefits than vote labour, but everyone else will be paying more tax to fund so most working people will be worse off. Not to mention the fact that he gives zero fucks about actual women and thinks that men wanting to be women are better women ( and more important to protect) than women. It’s a firm no from me.

Edited

Copied from a story in the Economist this week:

"If the labour party wins the next election, its government will be notable in one respect. Our review of the shadow cabinet’s biographies suggests that four people, or 13%, of its 31 members attended independent schools. Barring a big reshuffle, that would make it the cabinet with the most state-educated members since at least 1945. Rishi Sunak’s first cabinet in October 2022 was 61% privately educated, based on a tally by the Sutton Trust, an educational charity".