AIBU to vote reform

[MeadowL]

Anyone else sick of the Tories and Labour and will be voting reform?

Surely this just depends on where you live and who you speak to?

We live in South Norfolk. On paper it’s pure Tory. You drive along the A140 and there’s Reform signs everywhere.

My dd is at university in Nottingham. Everyone there is voting Labour. Her group (age 20s) are all voting Green. They’d rather stick pins in their eyes than vote Reform or Tory.

It’s short sighted to suggest voting patterns are the same all over the U.K. - they’re not.

I have been listening to a lot of political podcasts and Reform are picking up interest with younger people and the Reform campaign is doing well on TikTok (but it’s almost made for parties like Reform as similar pattern in Europe and again far right parties are gaining support with younger voters we need to understand what this is about)

good thing is young people are far less likely to vote (for once a positive)

Ahh I see now, you’re joking! Nobody can be this stupid surely?

Also, it’s you’re, not your.

Yes, tactically voting for Reform. This is the only way to change our political system.

@Ihaveahamster I get that some people have that attitude. Indeed a lot of that thinking drove the Brexit vote. How is that working out for the angry left behinds?

Reform is backed and funded by a millionaire member of the establishment. Ever get the feeling you've been played?

I would not vote for Farage if he was the last person standing on the planet. It's all about how wonderful he is, just listen to the interviews. "I was the first ...." etc etc. He's Trump without the orange skin and yellow hair. He's the person who engineered Brexit - how well did that work out

They keep repeating that they want to defend "british culture and values" nowhere do they tell me what they believe British culture and values are. I wonder why. Nigel Farage also thinks Andrew tate is a suitable role model for young men. So yes, I think yabu. Vote for whoever you like, but personally, I wouldn't even use their "contract" to wipe my arse with.

Except guess what they are not working because they have to apply for right to work in uk. Ofc there are legal immigrants don’t have a problem at all with that of course legal migration is fine.I’m guessing you don’t live next to any of the migrant hotels. They are just outside smoking and walking about and doing nothing all day please can you tel me who pays for that? I’m saying I don’t want to pay for that anymore why is that a problem? Also doesn’t help twice now we have had to advise our students after 3 events involving sexual harassment as they are leaving school. So ye I’d rather things change shoot me

There’s enough information put out there by Andrew Tate himself for people to make up their own opinion without needing to be told what to believe.

Just as you have.

Both the major parties are trying to not get elected and the main viable alternative is supposedly full of extremists. What a strange situation, it’s like no party represents anyone.

@HRTQueen ahh yes, people who get their political news and views from TikTok, a notoriously well informed and thoughtful cohort.

Is that in their manifesto? I don't think so.

You do, you. Why everyone has to keep announcing who they will vote for is beyond me.

What change do you think you will get by voting Reform?

My husband and I pay higher rate tax, we would be happy to pay a bit more to improve essential services.

I am a human, I assume you are too. What gives us more right to basic human rights than any other human being? If we were in the throws of war I would want another country to offer us safe passage as a family, this includes my son who would be classed as a ‘single man’.

We need jobs, not more privatisation. We need a living wage as standard. We need better state education, the NHS off its knees and child poverty eradicated. I know this cost money but I also know we have money. Tax the wealthy, close non dom loopholes and ensure corporations doing business in the UK are paying tax too.

I agree!
What’s bizarre is @Despair132 couldn‘t be further from the truth - I get my news from a variety of reputable sites because I’m aware of political bias!
Source Reform Uk is a company not a party, see Companies House and various news articles including the Independent.
Source Reform UK’s manifesto is not funded properly and therefore undeliverable, see full fact check. They’re not the only party to publish things that are undeliverable to be fair.)

Dear lord.

And the very danger you want saving from would in all probability be caused by toxic masculinity of the Tate variety in the first place.

Anyone who thinks Andrew Tate would save anyone except himself is deluded. He's a nasty piece of abusive shit.

@Despair132 So how will Reform do this differently? We have mechaisms to address illegal immigration and to process asylum claims. Mechanisms that currently do not work well due to chronic underfunding and an inabilty to work positively with the French government on the issue of small boats (which BTW is a tiny tiny proportion of irregular immigration).

It is almost like this is a complex multi factoral issue that doesn't get solved with over arching statements.

Oh dear...

How do you think Reform will make changes to any of this?

Green is all well and good as a non tax paying student. For others they don’t make sense so they don’t get many seats.

Reform - depends where you live. Protest votes like UKIP don’t usually lead to seats. I don’t want Farage near Uk politics. He’s already ruined too much and people think he’s the way forward?! Ludicrous in the extreme. Op if you want to join the nasty far right, do, but hopefully you will think again and go for people who could actually govern rather than shout and think they have the simplistic answers. They don’t.

As opposed to the thousands of women (and men) who are sexually assaulted by white British blokes every year you mean.

The wonderful thing about living in a democracy is that you can vote for who you want and anyone else’s opinion doesn’t matter.

Can’t stand Farage/Reform, Tories have destroyed the country, Labour is going to destroy women’s rights, Libs and Greens are even worse with added anti-semitism. Thankfully we have an excellent independent candidate who will be getting my vote 😀

Fill your boots OP, vote for who you want.

I was in our local cricket club this week, men and women in there of all ages, all sorts of backgrounds. Politics is usually off the agenda but someone started a discussion and the majority of people there were planning to vote Reform.