To wonder when the excess of dogs will die down

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There's so much shit everywhere

There are so many feral horrible dogs pissing on front doors or prams or shop displays and barking terrifyingly at kids

I am sick of them!!!!! Is this it or will people learn their post COVID lesson and only get pets they can actually handle in the future?

By all means get your DD a dog for companionship and the pleasure of having a pet for company as many people do. Not sure I like this new fashion for 'therapy animals'.

There's a massive difference between sticking a vest on your pet and claiming it's a therapy dog and being given a working animal by a disability charity that has had accredited training, like a guide dog. We have the latter.

Regardless, if Vivienne Mary doesn’t approve it’s time for a rethink, surely? We should bow down to their vastly superior intellect. I’ve started asking myself “what would a cat owner do?” when having to make decisions.

We definately chose a pet for my family's benefit. And we've hugely benefited.

I also had children, drive a car and go on holiday for my benefit.

I’ve started asking myself “what would a cat owner do?” when having to make decisions.

😂

Did you not read the post properly, they had to go on a waiting list. If the dog was just to be a pet, they could have got one straight away.

I wonder if anyone is assesing @GettingAwayFromYou and OH's intellectual prowess anytime?

Maybe based on shoes v trainers?

Really?

How do you reconcile people like my neighbour who has 7 cats (at last count), has non of the neutered, doesn’t have a cat flap and leave them out all night. And no they don’t like it. They sleep on our decking to get shelter in the winter.
Also the same family who let off fireworks in their garden every year then spend the next week going door to door asking if we have seen any their cats and wondering why some never return home.

Then do the same again the next year.

I think the first step in sorting out a lot of dog issues is to target the breeding of them. And at the same time target cat owners who allow their cats to roam, without neutering them.

Amazonian natives keep pet parrots...

Sorry but who cares about the dogs ‘rights’ about how it lives and it’s choices!

Other people that do not want dogs in their spaces, barking, pooing, jumping up, that is the discussion.

Every single pub in my town now allows dogs and most cafes too. I really don’t like it. I find some dogs adorable but others are quite unpleasant to be around.

Sooner or later a dog will kill someone in a pub or cafe. And then there will be uproar.

Sooner or later a dog will kill someone in a pub or cafe. And then there will be uproar.

Add to the list of prophecies. 👍🏻

It is a bit of a stretch to say that 'dog people ' are intellectually lacking. As if everyone who owns a dog is thick. Some decent points on this thread of course, but come on, we don't need nonsense distracting ourselves from actual issues.

It's not really about the dogs right though is it!
It's about the rights of the human owner to do whatever it wishes with its personal artifacts (of which the dog is one)
The dog is a personal possession which is used to impinge upon the rights of other people, it's a way of pissing other people off and pretending you didn't mean to do it.
Leaving excrement everywhere, letting the creature annoy other people, sometimes attack and kill them etc

We don’t own our dogs and our relationship with them has nothing to do with other people. If other people’s dogs piss you off it’s your problem. You have to be pretty egotistical to even consider that’s why we have canine companions.

Someone owns your dogs so unless borrowed or fostered, it's you. They're not your babies, they are pets and really great ones if well trained and behaved.

Unfortunately, there are lots of owners who don't pick up after their pets or their children.

If you don't own your dogs, why do people keep wittering on about the risk of having them stolen?

I own my dog. Not to impinge on people’s rights but I have to admit I’m not that sad if me and him existing together upset some people on here. My previous desire to not bother anyone in anyway is waning.

We do own our dogs. The only dogs that have lived with me that I don’t own are foster dogs. Unless you only have foster dogs, you own them. No point pretending otherwise.

However, my dogs are non of anyone else’s business. And I certainly don’t have them just to piss people off. It is pretty egotistical to assume people make any life decision, based on wether it pisses people off or not.

Nonsense.
Your dog is your possession and your responsibility. Any nuisence which it causes to other people is your fault and your problem.

My responsibility, yes. My possession, no. Living things can’t be owned.

Whatever romantic ideas you have about your pets legally they are chattel.

Ah but they can, dogs are purchased from breeders or ownership taken over from kennels when removing. If your dog fouls or bites it you they come to as its owner. Hopefully the owner feeds it and cares for it etc. If your dog bites it may be put down and you prosecuted depending on circumstances.

That’s all responsibility, not ownership.