To let you all know :Jane the mntter held keir to acct, brilliantly on radio today and it's viral.

[JaneVapeman]

Unfortunately I can't link to her clip, but she's a star and a hero. She pinned him down and cut through the "twaddle". I am a swing voter and would have been proud of a mntter holding any mp to account on an important issue like Jane did. Jane is/was even trending on twitter.

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@BlossomToLeaves

Of course she's free to put her opinion in any voice/way she pleases.

She was not speaking for all women though. It's that I object to so do not try to make it sound like I was saying she should be deferrential.

Nonsense. It was arrogant and rude of Starmer to try and peddle rehashed bollocks

She stopped him perfectly

Isn’t it a shame that journalists don’t feel particularly compelled to interview those women or editors allow them front page space for their views. And doesn’t it feel that Starmer has fully embraced the politician persona of focusing on optics over substance and evading questions he doesn’t want to answer. He now reminds me of Nick Wilde in Zootopia.

https://clip.cafe/zootopia-2016/im-nervous-okay-press-conference-101/

Out of interest, do you not believe that women prisoners, rape victims, domestic violence victims who want single sex spaces away from men should be entitled to them?

What about disabled women needing intimate care? Shouldn't they have the right to request that being women only?

Because this is what this is about.

Even if you don't think you'd ever care about it yourself if you were in this position, wouldn't you be supportive of the women who do?

The GRA is Labour as is Starmer who cannot answer clearly without resorting to deflection

In your opinion. Not in the opinion of all women.

All women and girls are at 9 times* more risk of sexual assault in mixed sex spaces. Of course not all women and girls realise that we are vulnerable until it happens. Letting any male person who wants to enter women's spaces gain access just by saying some magic words will be a safeguarding disaster.

Single sex spaces aren't perfect, they don't keep out all bad men, any more than wearing a seatbelt protects you in any accident. But if you wear a seatbelt and you choose one for your daughters, then you already understand why single sex spaces are vital for you and your daughters.

*At least 9 times more at risk - possibly 18 times more risk.

Unisex changing rooms put women at danger of sexual assault, data reveals | The Independent | The Independent

Here, have a NAWALT t-shirt.

Yes. Yes.
I am supportive of the women who do and always will be.

I'm not supportive of Jane saying she spoke for all women. She didn't.

@Summerhillsquare.. She doesn't need to provide a valid argument for sex based rights 😱
Secondly she did give him space to reply but she clearly wanted to hear real answers not repetition about his championing agaisnt rape and violence. Which, is not at all relevant and a total deflection, gas lighting patronising thing to keep, doing.

Great.

But that is what Jane is saying. So why aren't you supporting her point?

Jane was speaking for women’s rights. And since 51% of the country are women, it’s not unreasonable to believe the huge majority of us do want to keep our rights. Just because some women believe those with penises should be allowed to do as they please under the guise of also being a woman, doesn’t mean that sex based rights do not affect them either.

That's out of context isn't it.
Not all women do agree with Jane. She said we did.

But what do you disagree with Jane on?

@Churchview

51% of the population

"We don't all think the same."

Which bits specifically are you disputing / disagreeing with?

That no one can change sex?

That KS has previously struggled to define what a woman is? (Thankfully he finally says the words yesterday "biological women", so that is at least progress).

How's he planning on actually protecting said spaces?

Which bit do you not agree with? Which bit did Jane not speak for you?

I am not "sick of the absolute twaddle that comes out of (Keir Starmer's) mouth"
I am not supporting her saying that all women are.

I am not "sick of the absolute twaddle that comes out of (Keir Starmer's) mouth"
I am not supporting her saying that all women are.

Like Keating, I can't wait to see exactly which bits of Jane's views @Churchview disagrees with .......

She made a perfectly polite point and is allowed her opinion. That response is rude.

Which bits specifically are you disputing / disagreeing with?
I've just answered your question twice.

So a protect your Labour politician thing

A man can’t be interrupted when rehashing deflecting lines over and over

So you agree with his twaddle over protecting women’s sex based rights? Even if it has longterm implications on your sex based rights, and those of your female family members?

Just your opinion.
You don't speak for all women either. You aren't the Headgirl and Jane never purported to be one.

But if you believe that vulnerable women should have the right to single sex spaces, aren't you annoyed that Starmer refuses to commit to this and tries to wiggle out of the question every time?

if not, why not? Don't these women deserve better?