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To feel insulted and hurt...

283 replies

isitme852 · 28/06/2024 15:09

going anon for this...

Whenever myself and DP have a disagreement he cannot apologise for things he has said; he declares "by apologising you are saying my feelings aren't valid and its always about how you feel"

Two examples.. But I have more...

Yesterday morning he briefly mentioned about giving his DS (17) (not my son) a key to the house we live in. It is my house; my mortgage - DP has lived here with his son for 5ish years. I had said I didn't know how I felt about it and could we maybe talk about it later. My DD was eating breakfast and DP was walking out of the door for work. I wanted to talk about it later as his DS has not had the best track record of behaviour and also is a little immature. It was my intention to suggest "yes he can have a key - but there needs to be ground rules about who comes back here and when" etc etc. This turned into a bit of a discussion - culminating in DP saying "I don't feel like this is DS home"
For context; his ex kicked DS out at 12; DP picked him up and asked if he could stay here that night and he has never left. I have moved everyone's rooms around to accommodate his DS; gave up my children's playroom and my office so he could have his own room. I have clothed and fed him when DP couldn't work or hasn't had money. I have taken him on multiple holidays including abroad.. he never even had a passport before he moved in with us. I never leave him out; if I buy for my two I buy for him... whether it be sweets or a day out.
His DS has behaviour problems; he has smashed up his room; hit me; destroyed things in my house; he doesn't like to be told what to do - such as coming in at a set time; tidyig his room etc. And yet I am still here.. supporting him.
For him to say "I don't feel like this is his home" has really hurt me. I have done more for him than his own family and grandparents.
He has said all day today that he doesn't feel he is wrong for saying it; despite it being hurtful; because that's how he feels and he is entitled to an opinion and feelings.

Three weeks ago; DP raised that he feels I am not intimate enough with him. Again turned into an argument. I tried to explain - I have endometriosis; which is so severe even the University Hospital surgeons won't do a Hysterectomy - I am waiting for a review from a surgeon 3 hours from where I live. The endo leaves me in horrendous pain most of the month; which worsens after being intimate (he knows all of this and has been to the appointments). Of course I am hesitant... it hurts!! When I explained this.. he said "hugging you is like hugging a corpse.. I get nothing back"
I was devastated at this... I am trying my best. I work full time; we have 3 children between us that I do 100% of caring for.. my two DC are both Autistic so they require a lot of attention.. my DD10 doesn't sleep well so I am up most nights. I literally sobbed; tried to explain why I was so hurt. I told him I was embarrassed that I can't be intimate more but it hurts and makes me uncomfortable. He dismissed it with "it's how I feel.. by saying I shouldn't say things like that you are saying I shouldn't say how I feel"

AIBU to say that if your feelings are going to insult or hurt someone you should maybe think twice about saying them... or am I being dismissive of him

YABU - he can say what he wants - regardless of the impact
YANBU - he can not say what he wants and should be more considerate.

OP posts:
IncompleteSenten · 28/06/2024 15:11

Fucking hell.
He sounds awful.
Is ending the relationship not something you want to consider?

Notacrab · 28/06/2024 15:12

FFS op, YABU because you've put up with too much for too long. Why are you with this arsehole?

HcbSS · 28/06/2024 15:12

why are you still with him? This isn’t living.

Howlongdoesittake · 28/06/2024 15:15

Get rid of him and his awful son. He is using you and you will be far better of without him in many ways. Sounds an awful way to live.

isitme852 · 28/06/2024 15:16

IncompleteSenten · 28/06/2024 15:11

Fucking hell.
He sounds awful.
Is ending the relationship not something you want to consider?

I have many times; and when ever I broach the subject with him he will say something along the lines of "what because I am not entitled to feelings and opinions"

OP posts:
79pinkballoons · 28/06/2024 15:19

YABU for putting up with this inconsiderate asshole and his unpleasant son

Testina · 28/06/2024 15:20

I would say that not giving a 17yo a key long before now does sound like you don’t see it as his home - is that because of his behaviour, that you never have him home alone so he’s never needed a key? Even if you do always have someone in, I would feel quite shit if I had to ring the doorbell to be let in a 17. Or even 14. Don’t most kids get a key when start secondary?

But that’s a moot point really, because I question why you’re even with his father 😢

gamerchick · 28/06/2024 15:20

isitme852 · 28/06/2024 15:16

I have many times; and when ever I broach the subject with him he will say something along the lines of "what because I am not entitled to feelings and opinions"

Edited

You say 'yes you are, but I want you to have them living somewhere else. I want you out by x date '

EmpressaurusDeiGatti · 28/06/2024 15:22

isitme852 · 28/06/2024 15:16

I have many times; and when ever I broach the subject with him he will say something along the lines of "what because I am not entitled to feelings and opinions"

Edited

You’re both entitled to feelings & opinions, & yours are that you’ve had enough.

HateMyNewJobSoMuch · 28/06/2024 15:22

YABVVVVU for even contemplating your next move.

It’s straightforward- he and his son go. You will thank yourself when you realise the difference it makes to your life.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 28/06/2024 15:22

OP, your daughter is witnessing this as well if that gives you a better resolve. Get rid of this man and his misbehaving son.

You have the perfect opening now that he's said it doesn't feel like it's his home - tell him that he's correct; it isn't.

Tell him to leave and don't go backwards. Flowersl

MissyB1 · 28/06/2024 15:23

isitme852 · 28/06/2024 15:16

I have many times; and when ever I broach the subject with him he will say something along the lines of "what because I am not entitled to feelings and opinions"

Edited

You reply “yes you are and so am I, my feeling is that this relationship is over now”.

museumum · 28/06/2024 15:24

I was shocked at a 17yr old not being allowed a key for their own home and ready to say you are very unreasonable. But then I read the second example and now I am truly shocked. How can your dp not realise how hurtful he’s being! Of course he’s allowed to miss sex, you probably do too, but to express it the way he did is unforgivable and cold.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 28/06/2024 15:25

Thank goodness you are not married to DP !

Your relationship has run it's course.

Now it's time for him and his son to move out, just decide how much notice you wish to give them.

Yiayoula · 28/06/2024 15:29

Hard no to a key for the son.
And take “D”P’s key back ASAP.

andHelenknowsimmiserablenow · 28/06/2024 15:29

EmpressaurusDeiGatti · 28/06/2024 15:22

You’re both entitled to feelings & opinions, & yours are that you’ve had enough.

This is so true and you should repeat it too him next time you say you want to end the relationship and he tries to shut the conversation down by making you feel you are bieng unfair.

LoveSandbanks · 28/06/2024 15:29

isitme852 · 28/06/2024 15:16

I have many times; and when ever I broach the subject with him he will say something along the lines of "what because I am not entitled to feelings and opinions"

Edited

You don’t have to explain yourself to him, the relationship has run its course, for you( and that’s reason enough. He’s entitled to his feelings and you are more than entitled to your reaction to his feelings in the home you fucking pay for.

MyBreezyPombear · 28/06/2024 15:30

Testina · 28/06/2024 15:20

I would say that not giving a 17yo a key long before now does sound like you don’t see it as his home - is that because of his behaviour, that you never have him home alone so he’s never needed a key? Even if you do always have someone in, I would feel quite shit if I had to ring the doorbell to be let in a 17. Or even 14. Don’t most kids get a key when start secondary?

But that’s a moot point really, because I question why you’re even with his father 😢

This. I do also think that the 17 year old should have had a key way before now but after reading everything else it's a moot point. Get rid of the pair of them

NeedToChangeName · 28/06/2024 15:31

This leapt out at me "Whenever myself and DP have a disagreement he cannot apologise for things he has said; he declares "by apologising you are saying my feelings aren't valid and its always about how you feel". Do you often expect him to back down and apologise if you don't agree on something? That could suggest that you're not willing to listen to his views. I'd be interested to hear your DP's side of this story

And it seems odd for a 17YO not to have a key for the house where he lives

And I think it's OK for your partner to say he misses sex. But if it hurts, then of course he shouldn't be pressuring you or complaining, so YANBU about that

Wizardcalledoz · 28/06/2024 15:34

isitme852 · 28/06/2024 15:16

I have many times; and when ever I broach the subject with him he will say something along the lines of "what because I am not entitled to feelings and opinions"

Edited

You can end it for any reason, he doesnt need to agree! Get them both out asap

MILTOBE · 28/06/2024 15:35

He and his son behave like this in your house?

Honestly, I would pack both their bags and leave them on the doorstep. You sound like a really lovely woman, but you're being a complete mug here. His son is hitting you, both of them are living off you and you are told that you don't treat your own house as though it's his son's home. Well, that's because it isn't his home!

Get them both out.

MILTOBE · 28/06/2024 15:36

Tell him he's welcome to his own feelings, as you are. He can have his feelings anywhere in the world, just not in your house.

Clarinet1 · 28/06/2024 15:36

I think the key is a relatively small issue at this stage.
From what you’re saying, your DP has been pretty much cocklodging and his DS has considerable issues which his DF should be dealing with more than you. I think you and your own DC will be far better if without them. It occurs to me that the imminent school summer holidays would provide a good opportunity for everyone to make alternative arrangements.
I wish you well.

bluebeck · 28/06/2024 15:40

You don’t owe him any more explanation than “this isn’t working for me. You and DS need to be gone within two weeks.”

Your self esteem appears to have been massively eroded. He’s taking the piss. Bin him off and breathe freely again.

ParrotPirouette · 28/06/2024 15:41

I don’t say this lightly OP but kick the cocklodger and his DS out asap. Get your life back. 💐

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