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To feel insulted and hurt...

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isitme852 · 28/06/2024 15:09

going anon for this...

Whenever myself and DP have a disagreement he cannot apologise for things he has said; he declares "by apologising you are saying my feelings aren't valid and its always about how you feel"

Two examples.. But I have more...

Yesterday morning he briefly mentioned about giving his DS (17) (not my son) a key to the house we live in. It is my house; my mortgage - DP has lived here with his son for 5ish years. I had said I didn't know how I felt about it and could we maybe talk about it later. My DD was eating breakfast and DP was walking out of the door for work. I wanted to talk about it later as his DS has not had the best track record of behaviour and also is a little immature. It was my intention to suggest "yes he can have a key - but there needs to be ground rules about who comes back here and when" etc etc. This turned into a bit of a discussion - culminating in DP saying "I don't feel like this is DS home"
For context; his ex kicked DS out at 12; DP picked him up and asked if he could stay here that night and he has never left. I have moved everyone's rooms around to accommodate his DS; gave up my children's playroom and my office so he could have his own room. I have clothed and fed him when DP couldn't work or hasn't had money. I have taken him on multiple holidays including abroad.. he never even had a passport before he moved in with us. I never leave him out; if I buy for my two I buy for him... whether it be sweets or a day out.
His DS has behaviour problems; he has smashed up his room; hit me; destroyed things in my house; he doesn't like to be told what to do - such as coming in at a set time; tidyig his room etc. And yet I am still here.. supporting him.
For him to say "I don't feel like this is his home" has really hurt me. I have done more for him than his own family and grandparents.
He has said all day today that he doesn't feel he is wrong for saying it; despite it being hurtful; because that's how he feels and he is entitled to an opinion and feelings.

Three weeks ago; DP raised that he feels I am not intimate enough with him. Again turned into an argument. I tried to explain - I have endometriosis; which is so severe even the University Hospital surgeons won't do a Hysterectomy - I am waiting for a review from a surgeon 3 hours from where I live. The endo leaves me in horrendous pain most of the month; which worsens after being intimate (he knows all of this and has been to the appointments). Of course I am hesitant... it hurts!! When I explained this.. he said "hugging you is like hugging a corpse.. I get nothing back"
I was devastated at this... I am trying my best. I work full time; we have 3 children between us that I do 100% of caring for.. my two DC are both Autistic so they require a lot of attention.. my DD10 doesn't sleep well so I am up most nights. I literally sobbed; tried to explain why I was so hurt. I told him I was embarrassed that I can't be intimate more but it hurts and makes me uncomfortable. He dismissed it with "it's how I feel.. by saying I shouldn't say things like that you are saying I shouldn't say how I feel"

AIBU to say that if your feelings are going to insult or hurt someone you should maybe think twice about saying them... or am I being dismissive of him

YABU - he can say what he wants - regardless of the impact
YANBU - he can not say what he wants and should be more considerate.

OP posts:
ilovemoney · 30/06/2024 18:51

Hi op, you are right its time now for big changes. I have two disabled young girls but my eh is really supportive and hands on both practically and financially. I cannot imagine what life is like for you and your girls with these two abusive males. Luckily you own the house completely so from a practical point of view this is straightforward but I imagine you are very scared and I think you need sœur real life support to make them leave safely. I personally think that due to the fact there are disabled children and violence is involved I think it is a police matter and you should ask then for help and advice.

Littlejellyuk · 30/06/2024 18:52

Pelsall116 · 30/06/2024 06:57

He is gaslighting you and is always going to come back at you trying to turn it back on you when you try to end the relationship. Face it, you are a handy meal ticket for him and his DS and he is hardly giving that up voluntarily. You need to take control, tell him enough is enough, the relationship usn’t working out and they have a week to find alternative living arrangements. And if they haven’t by then stick their bags on the doorstep and change the locks

Meal ticket. perfectly said. Get rid asap. When will you finally act then hun? So what would it take? For his DS to hit your daughter instead of hitting you? Get rid. Pack his crap. Dump it on the front garden and change the locks.

changedwwyd · 01/07/2024 01:51

WmFnKdSg1234 · 29/06/2024 22:00

You need to involve the police. He doesn't get to live in your house and continue a relationship with you if that is not what you want 🤷

Why have you let this situation continue?

Seriously, get him out. You can end a relationship for any or no reason.

OP, please speak to Women's Aid and the Police today to help you get them out.
Just get out the house to a quiet place (so this man does not overhear) and call Women's Aid and then see the Police.

You do NOT have to live like this. You owe this man and his son NOTHING. You have paid for everything, been hit and abused and your 2 DCs have also suffered- removing their playroom to accommodate the son, the DCs having to live in such a miserable atmosphere.
Think of your DCs and think of your self.

What has this man brought to your life but misery? I cannot see one example of where he has contributed or paid you back for supporting him and his son. Where is the son's mother in all this? She can take him back.

Call Women's Aid for advice on how to get him out.

I wish I was in England, I would offer to come to your house and help to chuck his stuff out and change the locks!

On a serious note, well done for making this decision to bin him, make it THIS TIME that you follow through. Call Women's Aid and the police to assist you to make this happen.

ItsNotYou852 · 01/07/2024 20:33

isitme852 · 28/06/2024 17:11

Yes.

I know others on here will not understand. But yes. I have tried to end this. And it doesn't work. He doesn't listen. Carries on like nothing has happened and I haven't said a single word about it.

We are going to the cinema this evening with my DD and DD Friend. It will like nothing has happened today/yesterday.

I do understand OP, I'm in a similar situation. When the other person just refuses to acknowledge that you have spoken it leaves you frustrated and feeling like you are going crazy..
But you know in your heart that at some point you have to set yourself free. When you tell him that you want him gone be ready for his manipulation and trying to throw it back on you. Maybe practise the wording and simply refuse to get into a discussion, just repeat that you want him out of your life and your house.
I'm guessing that you don't have a strong friend ready to be there with you?
Possibly you could visit a solicitor, or CAB beforehand to be sure of your legal position. Having something in writing could help you feel stronger and more able to resist his twisting of your words.
Wish I had more practical advice to give you, but if I knew how to get out of a relationship like this I wouldn't also be stuck!
You have been given some good advice by women who have been through it, please do think long and hard about your way forward. Know what you want and believe you can do it xx

Sceptical123 · 10/11/2024 10:23

isitme852 · 30/06/2024 01:41

I am still here. And I am still reading responses. I just need to be careful because DP is around.

I know this is an old post but I hope OP got rid of this awful leeching man and is ok. It sounded like she was scared of him

SALaw · 10/11/2024 10:37

What are the upsides to this relationship?

LiesDoNotBecomeUs · 16/11/2024 21:40

He is entitled to opinions and feelings... but you are entitled not to want to live with them.

Would you want to do anything to him that gave you great pleasure while causing him great pain?

Time for that row of ducks?

allydoobs83 · 16/11/2024 21:44

Have you ever considered putting his balls in a vice and asking him how horny he feels then......??!

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