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Biden Trump debate- they must get rid of Biden now?

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molotovcupcakes · 28/06/2024 07:10

Biden looked so frail and incoherant at times that this must be the end of his Presidency very soon.
How have the Democrats not faced this sooner and selected someone else, I don't understand why they have let this go on for so long.
He had to be helped off the stage by his wife and it seems like elder abuse.

www.politico.com/video/2024/06/28/jill-biden-escorts-joe-biden-off-stage-after-first-presidential-debate-1346575

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OonaStubbs · 29/06/2024 18:19

I think both parties need to clean house after this election.

deeahgwitch · 29/06/2024 18:43

If KH is the Vice President why can't the Democrats choose her ?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/06/2024 18:55

deeahgwitch · 29/06/2024 18:43

If KH is the Vice President why can't the Democrats choose her ?

This has been addressed a number of times - in theory they could choose her, but are unlikely to as she's even more unpopular than Biden

TmFid · 29/06/2024 19:11

I think both of them and their shocking desperation to prove their loyalty to genocidal Israel, combined with the appalling, racist dehumanisation of Palestinians by the fat, corrupt Trump, was shameful. The only winners, whichever one of these senile, evil, old bastards wins, will be Israel, which totally control American politicians.

Bernardo1 · 29/06/2024 19:43

CroftonWillow · 28/06/2024 07:18

There'll be a mechanism but first things first they have to face the reality it needs to happen. They seem to be in denial at the moment and wasting precious time. I'd have thought Kamala Harris is the only option at this stage. She needs to start getting out there.

If he died, in term, she woukd atomatically take over as Potus, but stepping down otherwise, they have to come a decision, act quickly.

Not sure she would triumph, not my wish, but I think US unlikey to sipport both a black person amd a female, Obama was special. She's also said to be 'Left wing, whatever their deflnition of that is.

Tigger1895 · 29/06/2024 19:58

AgnesX · 28/06/2024 07:19

It's heartbreaking. The Republicans are likely to win as a default.

I'm so sorry for America (especially as Trump is being influenced by the obnoxious Farage and all that he stands for).

There are people who will vote for Biden just to keep Trump out, others are life long democrats and will never vote for Trump or any republican. Trump has his own diehard supporters and some undecided will vote for him.
First time round people thought he was going to be the new messiah but soon came to their senses.
However, I don’t believe 1 debate automatically will be the deciding factor.
If Trump does get in again it’ll give a whole new meaning to god save America

Sloejelly · 29/06/2024 20:10

It might come as a surprise, but there are other candidates. Not just the democratic and republican ones (Biden and Trump). No idea what they are like though.

DanielGault · 29/06/2024 20:50

Sloejelly · 29/06/2024 20:10

It might come as a surprise, but there are other candidates. Not just the democratic and republican ones (Biden and Trump). No idea what they are like though.

They're not going to do anything without the money and party machines behind them though. Probably running to highlight a single issue.

Coco1379 · 29/06/2024 20:50

Their choice is as poor as ours - only ours are younger!

likethislikethat · 29/06/2024 21:29

AgnesX · 28/06/2024 07:19

It's heartbreaking. The Republicans are likely to win as a default.

I'm so sorry for America (especially as Trump is being influenced by the obnoxious Farage and all that he stands for).

You are insane if you actually think this.

Inmydreams88 · 29/06/2024 21:31

Unless he drops out I don’t think they can replace him this late?

Ultimately if Trump wins we will be verging on WW3 territory. He will leave NATO, stop aid to Ukraine, Putin will be emboldened and start invading other countries. It could end badly for Europe.

nomoretoriesforme · 29/06/2024 21:45

Inmydreams88 · 29/06/2024 21:31

Unless he drops out I don’t think they can replace him this late?

Ultimately if Trump wins we will be verging on WW3 territory. He will leave NATO, stop aid to Ukraine, Putin will be emboldened and start invading other countries. It could end badly for Europe.

Chill.. Russia doesn't have capacity for that. They won't go after NATO country.

Sloejelly · 29/06/2024 21:46

DanielGault · 29/06/2024 20:50

They're not going to do anything without the money and party machines behind them though. Probably running to highlight a single issue.

No, but a better way of objecting to the main candidates than abstaining.

TillyMSF · 29/06/2024 21:54

Inmydreams88 · 29/06/2024 21:31

Unless he drops out I don’t think they can replace him this late?

Ultimately if Trump wins we will be verging on WW3 territory. He will leave NATO, stop aid to Ukraine, Putin will be emboldened and start invading other countries. It could end badly for Europe.

Yes, he can be replaced at the Democratic Convention in August. I don't know what happened to Kamala. She's made public speaking gaffes and is largely absent in the media.

Trump can still blow it with his choice for VP. It'll be a tough call. He doesn't want a moderate, another Pence, or an extremist kook like Marjorie Taylor Green to turn off moderates and the undecided. Hoping and praying he picks someone loyal but loco en la cabeza.

RavenhairedRachel · 29/06/2024 22:02

He's an absolute joke he looks like a thunderbirds puppet. He looks like his carer has taken him out for the day. What I can't get my head around is in a country as big as America why are Biden and Trump the only candidates it's abysmal.

likethislikethat · 30/06/2024 02:04

RavenhairedRachel · 29/06/2024 22:02

He's an absolute joke he looks like a thunderbirds puppet. He looks like his carer has taken him out for the day. What I can't get my head around is in a country as big as America why are Biden and Trump the only candidates it's abysmal.

It sort of requires you to understand something, perhaps anything, about USA politics and their political parties.

There's a 4 year degree course at Leeds University if you qualify for entry but it is quite prestigious.

freshbluesnow · 30/06/2024 07:37

RavenhairedRachel · 29/06/2024 22:02

He's an absolute joke he looks like a thunderbirds puppet. He looks like his carer has taken him out for the day. What I can't get my head around is in a country as big as America why are Biden and Trump the only candidates it's abysmal.

Unnecessarily rude.

Here's Barack Obama on Biden:

“Bad debate nights happen. Trust me, I know,” Obama, 62, wrote on X Friday afternoon, referring to his infamous lacklustre debate against Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney in 2012. “But this election is still a choice between someone who has fought for ordinary folks his entire life and someone who only cares about himself. Between someone who tells the truth; who knows right from wrong and will give it to the American people straight and someone who lies through his teeth for his own benefit. Last night didn’t change that, and it’s why so much is at stake in November.”

AgnesX · 30/06/2024 07:54

likethislikethat · 29/06/2024 21:29

You are insane if you actually think this.

I really, really hope you're right.

CosFuckThatGuy · 30/06/2024 08:42

I sincerely hope that behind the scenes, Obama is singing a very different song.

dragonmumof2 · 30/06/2024 11:21

Americans don't like Kamala because she's an idiot. Listen to her speak(on the rare occasion she shows up for anything to do so) She's as useful as tits on a turtle with the same IQ. Her being a woman of color doesn't factor in much after that. Obama lost his sparkle when he ran on a platform of improving schools and communities for people of color with limited resources. He failed big time and immediately abandoned his promises as soon as elected so his words won't carry weight like they used to. From Hunter Bidens crack pipes and illegal "art deals", to bidens rasict comments everyone pretends he never said, to trumps sex scandal and so forth. It all plays out like reality TV.

MrsSkylerWhite · 30/06/2024 11:49

dragonmumof2 · Today 11:21
Americans don't like Kamala because she's an idiot. Listen to her speak(on the rare occasion she shows up for anything to do so) She's as useful as tits on a turtle with the same IQ

Don’t be foolish. Anyone graduating with a law degree from Howard clearly does not have a low IQ, whatever else their failings may or may not be.

Nanaof1 · 30/06/2024 12:22

SquirrelSoShiny · 28/06/2024 07:33

I skimmed the headlines and, like you, I don't want to see any more. I don't understand how the Democrats have reached this point but I think they have been so obsessed with ideologies that they took their eye off the ball.

We have friends and family in USA on both sides of the political spectrum and they are all afraid of what November will bring, mostly the fear is around civil dissent. But they all think Trump will get in, no one believes Biden will, not even the Democrat supporters.

This is the first election where not only is it a choice of "the lesser of two weevils", but a choice where the citizens can't win either way.

You would think, in a country our size, with our population, there would be two candidates better suited for us all. The two parties have gotten off on such a tangent, with one so extreme that it is scary and one that threatens to become as extreme the opposite way. We need a third party that could be a mix of conservative and liberal, without the extreme views/goals on either side. Sadly, the two main parties will never let it happen.

I love my country, but we have screwed the pooch with these two as choices.
I am flummoxed that the PTB and many people don't seem to WANT better candidates. Tweedledee and Tweedledum would be a better choice now, instead of the cast of Dumb and Dumber.
I have never been so disappointed in an upcoming election and what the after-effects will be. The puppet masters are setting us all up and turning the US into a Humpty Dumpty. Now just have to hope we have enough super-glue to put it back together after it shatters.

My vote won't count, except to me, because I will vote third party or Independent, again.

Nanaof1 · 30/06/2024 12:31

dragonmumof2 · 30/06/2024 11:21

Americans don't like Kamala because she's an idiot. Listen to her speak(on the rare occasion she shows up for anything to do so) She's as useful as tits on a turtle with the same IQ. Her being a woman of color doesn't factor in much after that. Obama lost his sparkle when he ran on a platform of improving schools and communities for people of color with limited resources. He failed big time and immediately abandoned his promises as soon as elected so his words won't carry weight like they used to. From Hunter Bidens crack pipes and illegal "art deals", to bidens rasict comments everyone pretends he never said, to trumps sex scandal and so forth. It all plays out like reality TV.

And many, many of us want voted off the island!

I agree with what you said above also. One can have a degree, even a law degree, and still be an idiot. One can have a high IQ but have a common sense IQ of 50, or not as high of an IQ but a common sense IQ of 155. The US has shown that time and again.

Nanaof1 · 30/06/2024 12:37

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/06/2024 10:21

Truee, but then as with earpieces I'd have thought using a teleprompter would would confusing for anyone who's senses were frittering - I found it hard enough and I'm (more or less!!) in command of mine

Maybe PPs have a point about Parkinsons, where it tends to wax and wane, and neurological screening was notable by its absence in Biden's latest medical report which was published in February

Even reading off a teleprompter is difficult for Biden at times. He has screwed it up more than a few times.

Sloejelly · 30/06/2024 12:38

one so extreme that it is scary

Not sure you can get much more extreme than declaring men can be women and having a personally vested health secretary pushing (successfully) against evidence to remove all age limits on extreme surgery and drugs that sterilise and harms children.