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AIBU for being upset that my autistic child is being excluded on purpose.

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lucyloooooo · 27/06/2024 05:29

For background, I have two children from a previous relationship that was abusive. I left 4 years ago. The children are currently 6 & 5. This post is regarding my 5 year old son.

My partner of 2 years and I have a son together (1). All 3 kids live with me, as well as partner. We are engaged.

My partner is going away this weekend with his family (mum, 2 brothers, brothers 2 children, brothers wife) and taking the son we share. He has not invited me or my other two children.

I have asked him if we can attend, and told him how I feel being excluded, especially as this is our sons first trip away, and was met with ignorance, hostility, anger. He has said he doesn't want us to come due to my 5 year old being autistic. Apparently, it wouldn't be right, it's not fair to anyone else that wants a chilled weekend away, it's not his trip to go inviting whomever, and he is not their dad.

I'll admit there have been a few times we have taken out 6yo by himself to certain things, such as the arcades ( a small outing, couple of hours at most) but it's because he very rarely gets the chance to just be himself and do what he wants without worrying about what 5yo SEN son is doing/going to do/how he will react. This fact is currently being used against me by partner, explaining that we have excluded him before, so why not now?

I am not ignorant to the fact that my SEN child is not easy. But he is getting better with age, communicating more than ever, gaining an understanding and just getting better at everything in general. He loves his iPad, going to the beach and being with his brothers. I do not want to keep him locked up his entire life, just because he has ASD.

My two children went on holiday with their dad 2.5 years ago and I was heartbroken that I wouldn't be seeing their first holiday, but accepted that this is the life of separated parents.

I am so hurt that my partner would purposefully exclude us/ 5yo son because he has autism. I even suggested to him to at least take my 6yo as well, the most easygoing child you'll ever meet, and doesn't get to do much being that one of his siblings is autistic and the other a baby, so both require a lot of attention. But again refused as he said he doesn't want to, he said he doesn't want the responsibility of taking 2 children away 'alone' and has said his family have only asked for 1yo son.

He has said a lot in the past few days that have been pretty hurtful, but nothing cuts deeper than the different treatment for me and my sons, compared to the son we share and his family. Partner admitted he is happy to have my feelings at his disposal to please everyone else around him, including himself.

Please tell me, AIBU? Is he? Do I need to just get over it as he's said or is this something I seriously need to assess going forward? After all of this, I'm not sure I can continue but I am desperate for a second opinion. Thank you ❤️

OP posts:
BlueMum16 · 29/06/2024 08:34

lucyloooooo · 28/06/2024 19:27

I agree, he's shown who he truly is.

To clarify, I never asked him to take all the kids alone, nor would I expect him to. He told me I could come if I arrange childcare for my 6&5yo. Or even just my 5yo, then me and 6yo could come, because he is 'easy'.

I also never thought he would actually take my 6yo without me, even though they are close. My only reason for suggesting this in the first place is I had my doubts over the real reason he didn't want us all to go with - be it that he doesn't see my two older children as his, if it really was about the fact my 5yo is autistic, if it was his families influence or if he just didn't want me there in general.

Had he treated this situation more sensitively and with some care for my feelings and compassion for the children he's choosing to leave out, then perhaps I would have forgiven (but not forgotten) and we could have found common ground. But the way he has behaved (not just during this situation, but over the past 4 months) and explained how he really feels about the kids I thought he loved, has made it easier for me to make a decision, and I have to put my children first.

I see this as a family weekend that he is choosing not to invite his family too. He should have been telling his mum/brother we will all come (and pay) not going alone.

This would be unacceptable to me. I would ask him and his brother to move out immediately. Not even sure why the brother is staying with you.

You need to establish boundaries you are happy with or end things. If you're so in love she should be spending time with you not making plans to spend time away from you.

Lindaaelizabeth · 29/06/2024 12:01

I wouldn’t let him take my 1 year old anywhere, when he is away , leave

Lulu49 · 29/06/2024 15:09

OMG this would be a deal breaker for me. How long have you been together? Xx

lucyloooooo · 29/06/2024 15:20

Lulu49 · 29/06/2024 15:09

OMG this would be a deal breaker for me. How long have you been together? Xx

2.5 years.

He has always been so loving, caring and just the perfect person and I love him so much, not like anyone before, and I don't think I can feel like this again.

Like everyone else, he has his flaws and I accepted these, and they were really nothing major. But the past 4 ish months, he has been a completely different person - Cold, harsh, nasty, verbally not very nice (I don't want to say abusive as seems a little strong, but it seems to be heading that way) and so so heartless toward me and my two children and the way we feel, he just seems to be so detached.

He hasn't changed his attitude toward our shared child or his family, which indicates he just isn't interested in us anymore.

OP posts:
WhatNoRaisins · 29/06/2024 15:39

I wonder if the reality of a blended family is finally dawning on him too late. This set up isn't for everyone but it's obviously a problem when someone sleepwalks into it like he's done.

OP you need to accept that's who he is and work out what's best for you.

OhcantthInkofaname · 29/06/2024 17:20

This relationship is over. It was too much, too soon. You got pregnant within a few weeks. It's never going to be the happy family you want.

OhcantthInkofaname · 29/06/2024 17:34

I hit post before I was done above.

When he returns from his trip its time for him to move out and take his brother with him.

Starrynights9 · 29/06/2024 17:35

lucyloooooo · 27/06/2024 15:06

But the ‘bashing’ is advice, op

I understand that. And I understand when it comes to children/making the same mistakes involving children, I will have harsh comments.

My only issue is I am already taking steps to ensure my children are well, no matter how I feel. As I've said in previous responses, I'm trying. But the comments of attempting to better myself and my understanding of how it has got to this stage - being things moved far far too quickly - seem to be ignored.

I know what I need to do to be proactive, what to do, what not to do and the things I need to do differently, but this situation is difficult for me as I am being told by partner that I am completely deranged and unreasonable. So came for advice on what I need to do regarding this.

If it means permanent measures, then so be it. But I am lost, and that's what I need help with right now.

Oh my goodness OP. You are definitely not deranged. You have genuine feelings for a guy thats exploiting you for all your worth. The fact you have a child together is no different to other posters in marriage who feel neglected & set aside. I only become involved in threads that move me to reply & yours is one that deserves support. You are getting support here despite your upset at the tone. The majority are good people trying to help you move forward 💐

OhmygodDont · 29/06/2024 18:17

Sounds like deep down his realised a blended family or where at least the step children are his steps rather than his own is just not for him. Yet doesn’t have the balls to end it, likely for fear of not spending as much time with his child. Add his family not liking you and yeah.

Honestly best course of action is to separate and try to co parent nicely no hard feelings kinda thing.

T1Dmama · 30/06/2024 10:35

While your DP’s family don’t necessarily have to except step children as their own, I would expect him to! You and your kids are a package deal and he is being a dick!!
Sorry OP but if this is his attitude to your son then I couldn’t stay with him in your shoes !
he’s in your house so while he’s away with your shared baby pack his things up for him, when he returns take his key off him and your child and hand him his belongings!

stucky · 30/06/2024 22:22

pinkdelight · 27/06/2024 06:32

Having the baby was quick. We fell in love fast, which isn't always good. Maybe never.

I think this gets to why the why do you keep having babies with these men - tho harshly put, is really at the heart of it going forward for OP. I agree that this is not a good environment for your DC and am heartened that OP is realising that and won't inflict an unloving (non)father figure on them growing up. But beyond that there's a lot of work OP can do on herself to detach this idea of falling in love from having a baby. Mothers can't afford to be losing their heads like that to new men, the consequences are huge for everyone as she's discovering now. It's not that falling in love is never good but it needs to be reframed in a much healthier way for the future. For now, OP has a lot to think about and practically action to take her DC out of this situation. It's good that her family is supportive at least and shows - the love that really matters here is not the heady romance of a new man but the lasting unconditional love of a family.

Without knowing the dynamics between the father and her children I don't feel we can really offer any guidance.
My step child has ASD and I would not take him on holiday alone, nor would I take my step daughter away with my family without my partner. My family do treat my children/step children differently in subtle ways and I would not want to put my DSD in a situation that makes her uncomfortable. My partners family treats my children differently too. Whilst they accept the children they are not related and it takes a long time for families to fully integrate. It took me a while to adapt to my DSS with ASD, I love him dearly and whilst I would love to take him away with my family it would make eating out together etc more difficult and I am not sure that people are as understanding as they could be, so to some extent I can understand him being hesitiant.

Without knowledge of what he is like day-to-day with you and the children I don't feel i can say much more. Blending families is incredibly difficult and I wish you and your children the best whatever decision you make. Take care x

Goodtogossip · 02/07/2024 14:33

He knew you had children, one with special needs when you got together & proposed knowing you'd all be a family one day. Why is he now back tracking saying your Sons aren't his & doesn't want to include them in his family outings & holidays? If I were you I would seriously consider if I wanted to be with this man. If he can't accept your Sons being a part of his family, ask yourself will it really work long term?

LovedmyRaleighChopper · 02/07/2024 14:46

Christ, you know how to pick them don’t you?
When this relationship finishes please invest your time into some therapy. Probably not a coincidence that you’ve chosen two awful men in a row, for the sake of the boys please don’t make it three.

Whatwasthatshow · 20/07/2024 10:32

I hope you’re ok @lucyloooooo

lucyloooooo · 30/08/2024 16:19

Hi all. Little update.

I tried to make things work with him for a little while after this post, but his attitude toward me and my kids remained the same. I broke up with him due to of course matters discussed in the post, but also due to his overwhelming selfishness, neglect to our relationship and much more.

He has since treated me and my boys (not our shared child) like we don't exist. Unfortunately, his actions over the period we have been apart have really shown me what we were to him - absolutely nothing.

I am just glad this has happened when the boys are 6 and 5, and not 16 and 15.

Thanks to everyone that supported me in June when I needed it. I feel like rubbish, but I'm getting there.
Xxx

OP posts:
HysteriaOfTheWanderingWomb · 30/08/2024 16:30

Well done op!

None of that can have been easy. But you got out and many don't, so now you and your DC can enjoy a footie spent only with people who care and love you and those who don't won't get a seat at the table.

Hope you continue to go from strength to strength.

Maray1967 · 30/08/2024 16:39

Sending best wishes. It needed to end - he’s not a good person, and neither are his family.

I hope you can fix on that - and take each day as it comes until you feel stronger.

SquirrelSoShiny · 30/08/2024 16:57

God he is so disgusting that I can barely find the words. I'm very glad you left.

bakebeans · 30/08/2024 17:04

lucyloooooo · 30/08/2024 16:19

Hi all. Little update.

I tried to make things work with him for a little while after this post, but his attitude toward me and my kids remained the same. I broke up with him due to of course matters discussed in the post, but also due to his overwhelming selfishness, neglect to our relationship and much more.

He has since treated me and my boys (not our shared child) like we don't exist. Unfortunately, his actions over the period we have been apart have really shown me what we were to him - absolutely nothing.

I am just glad this has happened when the boys are 6 and 5, and not 16 and 15.

Thanks to everyone that supported me in June when I needed it. I feel like rubbish, but I'm getting there.
Xxx

👏👏👏 good riddance. Hope you are ok.

Andwegoroundagain · 30/08/2024 20:13

Good luck OP. Hope you find some peace after this

BeaLola · 30/08/2024 20:20

You have done the right thing for yourself and all 3 boys - I'm sure things will be hard/painful for a while but I sincerely wish all 4 of you an amazing and kind time ahead

Newagestage · 30/08/2024 20:38

I've just read all your posts and I have never been so happy seeing an update. Well done! Too many women put their partners before their kids, but you've proven yourself to be an incredibly strong woman and fantastic mother. Break ups are tough but you will get through it, you and your boys deserve much better, well done! All the best ❤️

SussexLass87 · 30/08/2024 20:55

Well done OP! You are so strong - exactly who your boys need.

I'm so sorry this happened to you...but I hope the future is feeling brighter ✨️

Maria1979 · 30/08/2024 21:47

I feel for you OP.. A ND child is hard to live with for everyone. If you can, please spend some time with your 6 y old just the two of you. Siblings to ND children often suffer in silence (google glass children). My youngest (11) is quite fragile due to his brother being ASD with outbursts etc so I make sure to separate them regularly and having time just for the two of us. I hope everything works out well for you and your children OP. You sound like a wonderful caring person and your children are lucky to have you as their mother. 🌟

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