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Can someone explain married people’s surnames?

259 replies

henpp · 26/06/2024 22:46

If you marry, do both people have to have the same surname? Do you have to decide on which to have together? Could one of you double barrel and the other not?

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CurlewKate · 27/06/2024 05:56

You can choose your father's name or your husband's father's name.

Or you can both keep the name that has been yours since birth. The name that is associated with your life, and which is associated with all the life experiences and achievements that have made you the adult you are on the day you get married.

And those of you who say they couldn't wait to change their name? There can be excellent reasons for this, of course-so no need to wait to get married! It can be done easily and inexpensively online.

Simonjt · 27/06/2024 06:01

SummerBarbecues · 26/06/2024 23:51

Don’t have to change your name. But if you change to anything else than your husband’s name, you need a deed poll. Similarly, husband changing name need a deed poll.

No, thats incorrect, like wives husbands just need to use their marriage cerificate as proof of their name change, you also don’t need a deedpoll to both change to a completely new name.

WillLiveLife · 27/06/2024 06:04

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mitogoshi · 27/06/2024 06:17

Surnames are an emotive subject so yes discuss it but you can decide what to do. I changed mine first time but haven't decided what to do when I remarry, could take my mothers maiden name if I don't take my new husband's ;he doesn't mind)

BingoMarieHeeler · 27/06/2024 06:18

henpp · 26/06/2024 22:46

If you marry, do both people have to have the same surname? Do you have to decide on which to have together? Could one of you double barrel and the other not?

What?? How do you not know this??

Parker231 · 27/06/2024 06:23

Lilacapples · 26/06/2024 23:55

I took my husbands surname. I wanted to have the same name as my children and never really gave it a thought. His was nicer and easier to spell. Reading these type of posts is interesting because thinking about it I don’t know one couple where the wife has kept her own name.

Weird that it’s always the husbands name which is nicer and easier to spell?
I’ve been married nearly 30 years and kept my surname as did my sister and sister in law.

HcbSS · 27/06/2024 06:28

I have my own surname but do use Mrs.
This is becas I changed my surname by deed poll back to my Mum’s maiden name at 18 (born before their divorce finalised but had grown up without father and we wanted to be the same as the rest of the family). I am proud of my surname :)

Kids have my husband’s and I have never had to travel with them without him bit if we did I would just take the relevant paperwork. I loath double barreled surnames so that wasn’t an option and I have no issue with them having his name.

NoMoreLifts · 27/06/2024 06:29

It's trad for children to have mother's name. If she's already changed hers to husband's, they all have same name.

What's not trad, and is weird (I think), is for unmarried men to insist that their child has male surname cos it's trad. It's not. It's just what they want.

TheBirdintheCave · 27/06/2024 06:33

Chocochick · 27/06/2024 00:01

It strikes me as odd that everyone says “you can do whatever you want” and yet, the vast majority of women still seem to want to drop their surname in favour of their husband’s? I know it’s tradition but a pretty obviously sexist one and I can’t fathom why women would want to uphold this.

I had an extremely common surname and my husband has a rare surname which is far further up the register. I always hated being last for everything and didn't want the same for my children so was excited I got to 'upgrade' my surname when we got married.

I may have felt differently if I had a more interesting surname from the start!

Caterpillarshoes · 27/06/2024 06:37

So sad to lose our traditions. I live in quite a traditional rural area and every house/ farm Is known by the family name. Many have been the same for years/ generations.

IncompleteSenten · 27/06/2024 06:37

In the UK?
Yes. You can do whatever you like. 🤷 Keep yours, change yours to the man's, change his to yours, change it to both or pick an entirely new one.

IncompleteSenten · 27/06/2024 06:40

Chocochick · 27/06/2024 00:01

It strikes me as odd that everyone says “you can do whatever you want” and yet, the vast majority of women still seem to want to drop their surname in favour of their husband’s? I know it’s tradition but a pretty obviously sexist one and I can’t fathom why women would want to uphold this.

That's because the op asked what you can do not what people usually do.

toomanytonotice · 27/06/2024 06:43

HcbSS · 27/06/2024 06:28

I have my own surname but do use Mrs.
This is becas I changed my surname by deed poll back to my Mum’s maiden name at 18 (born before their divorce finalised but had grown up without father and we wanted to be the same as the rest of the family). I am proud of my surname :)

Kids have my husband’s and I have never had to travel with them without him bit if we did I would just take the relevant paperwork. I loath double barreled surnames so that wasn’t an option and I have no issue with them having his name.

You need those documents to travel whether you have the same surname or not.

you must be able to show you have permission from all parties with PR.

surnames are irrelevant.

Parker231 · 27/06/2024 06:45

Caterpillarshoes · 27/06/2024 06:37

So sad to lose our traditions. I live in quite a traditional rural area and every house/ farm Is known by the family name. Many have been the same for years/ generations.

Traditions can be good but the majority of women automatically taking their husbands surname on marriage is antiquated and derogatory.

toomanytonotice · 27/06/2024 07:08

Caterpillarshoes · 27/06/2024 06:37

So sad to lose our traditions. I live in quite a traditional rural area and every house/ farm Is known by the family name. Many have been the same for years/ generations.

I’ve recently researched my family tree.

i can follow the male line no problem. Birth certs, death certs.

if I want to follow the female line it is a million times harder. Once their names change they’re a nightmare to keep track of.

we’re losing our female history because of tradition.

CurlewKate · 27/06/2024 07:08

"His was nicer and easier to spell."

Ah yes, the old "men's last names are so much nicer and easier to spell" trope! 🤣

SheilaFentiman · 27/06/2024 07:11

My name is nicer than my husband’s

I kept it 😀

Darhon · 27/06/2024 07:17

toomanytonotice · 27/06/2024 06:43

You need those documents to travel whether you have the same surname or not.

you must be able to show you have permission from all parties with PR.

surnames are irrelevant.

Split when mine were 12,14, 17. They have exes surname (we weren’t married and it was my choice as I’ve spelt my name out every single time I’ve given it!). Anyway, I never provided any documentation that he had my permission for them to travel when he took them abroad.

CountdownCat · 27/06/2024 07:26

I actually kept my first husbands surname! I'm now married to DH2 but kept it as I didn't want a different last name to DD.

When she's grown up I will probably change it to my current DHs name.

Willyoujustbequiet · 27/06/2024 07:30

Flossflower · 26/06/2024 23:57

So the choice is usually your husband’s name or your father’s name! I couldn’t wait to get rid of my father’s name.

It was your name not your father's.

Why is it your husband's name not his father's name? Men don't own names.

Willyoujustbequiet · 27/06/2024 07:34

All the women in my circle kept their own names. Most also gave their children their own. As did I.

Makes far more sense. The divorce rate is high. Women are nearly always the primary carers, many fathers become absent. It is more practical for children to have the mum's name.

PuttingDownRoots · 27/06/2024 07:36

And if its Your name, its yours to change if you want to.

People are entitled to their own opinions on their own name. Simply...I like my married surname more than I did my birth surname. I love my family, but wasn't attached to the name.
I've very attached to my married surname. It suits our family.

WannabeMathematician · 27/06/2024 07:39

Flossflower · 27/06/2024 00:12

In future generations it might be different but the name I was born with was my father’s name. That is because for hundreds of years that is how things were done. I am not saying it was right. Even now, a mother may keep her father’s name but the name a child gets is usually the father’s or some double barrelled version.

Do you have any brothers? Did they get their own names?

VolvoFan · 27/06/2024 07:40

You can do what you want. Tradition is a solution to problems that we forgot existed. Just because it's considered antiquated doesn't mean we shouldn't do it/use it. I took my husband's name as per tradition and didn't double-barrel it. I didn't like my maiden name much anyway.

YaWeeFurryBastard · 27/06/2024 07:43

BestZebbie · 26/06/2024 22:59

In the UK (as of 15yrs ago when I last read about this) marriage doesn't automatically change the legal surname of either party getting married, although the woman gains the additional right to be legally known under the man's surname in addition to her own. Conventionally women take up this right and stop using their maiden name, update their passport to show the preferred new name etc, but it is very much not required (and you can carry on with both together if you like, e.g.: for work and at home). I do not know how this works with marriages containing two women or two men.

If you are a woman and want to totally drop your maiden name for some reason, or a man wants to take a woman's surname, or you both want to take a totally different surname, you can but you will need a deed poll, which is a different legal document unconnected to the marriage paperwork. It is also not that uncommon for one or both people to take the opportunity to change their middle name(s) with a deed poll at the same time as the wedding.

No that’s wrong, a man can take the woman’s surname with a marriage certificate, no deed poll required. Either party can take the other’s name or any combination of the two names, it’s the same for same sex couples.