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Can someone explain married people’s surnames?

259 replies

henpp · 26/06/2024 22:46

If you marry, do both people have to have the same surname? Do you have to decide on which to have together? Could one of you double barrel and the other not?

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FeelingHotHotHotFeelingHotHotHot · 26/06/2024 23:37

You don't have to change to your husband's surname. It's not LAW. Many women do though. Despite what you may read on here.

Almost all the women I know from 21 to 101 changed their surname to their husband's surname. Working class, middle class, and upper class, from all walks of life, from many different backgrounds, and varying levels of education, and varying careers, (professional, and non-professional, and unskilled.)

Roughly 85% of women take their husband's surname in the UK. It may seem like many on Mumsnet keep their maiden name (as many posters claim they do,) but in real life, only around 15% of married women keep their own surname, and around 85% take their husband's.

SpindleyDindley · 26/06/2024 23:39

Never saw the point of double barrelling. Would make more sense to pick half of each name and mangle them together.

BashfulClam · 26/06/2024 23:48

toomanytonotice · 26/06/2024 22:51

Why did dh not take yours?

o/p you can do what you want. Keep your own name, change it to something totally different. Marriage makes no difference.

funny though as 99% of men have nicer/easier to pronounce surnames so women always seem to be the one who changes.

that or women are “proud to be married” so change their names to reflect that. Men clearly not so much pride in their marital status or they’d be fighting to do it as well.

Because that needs a dead poll which is a pain in the arse and costs extra. I have a marriage certificate that I’ve already paid for and it’s really easy to change your name if you have a marriage certificate. Why pay out extra when your marriage certificate does the job?

SummerBarbecues · 26/06/2024 23:51

Don’t have to change your name. But if you change to anything else than your husband’s name, you need a deed poll. Similarly, husband changing name need a deed poll.

WrongSortOfPoster · 26/06/2024 23:52

If you marry, do both people have to have the same surname? No
Do you have to decide on which to have together? No, but it will help to discuss it
Could one of you double barrel and the other not? Yes

ShinyGreenAngled · 26/06/2024 23:54

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 26/06/2024 23:25

@henpp so what happens when a child with a double barrelled name marries another child with a double barrelled? do their children then have quadruple barrelled name?????

If they want to, or not

DumbassHamsterSitterPerson · 26/06/2024 23:55

sesquipedalian
so I continue to have a name that isn’t actually mine at all
If it's the name you are called then it is your name. Regardless of where it came from it's yours.

Lilacapples · 26/06/2024 23:55

I took my husbands surname. I wanted to have the same name as my children and never really gave it a thought. His was nicer and easier to spell. Reading these type of posts is interesting because thinking about it I don’t know one couple where the wife has kept her own name.

ShinyGreenAngled · 26/06/2024 23:55

SummerBarbecues · 26/06/2024 23:51

Don’t have to change your name. But if you change to anything else than your husband’s name, you need a deed poll. Similarly, husband changing name need a deed poll.

No they don’t. Our passports, driving licenses, and all other documents have our two surnames on, and neither of us changed by deed poll

Flossflower · 26/06/2024 23:57

Moonshine5 · 26/06/2024 22:58

It seems antiquated/ old fashioned for the wife to take the husbands name.

So the choice is usually your husband’s name or your father’s name! I couldn’t wait to get rid of my father’s name.

KreedKafer · 26/06/2024 23:58

There’s nothing to explain, really. You can call yourself whatever you want, whether you’re married or not. There’s no agreement necessary.

WrongSortOfPoster · 27/06/2024 00:00

@SummerBarbecues , that's not true.

Chocochick · 27/06/2024 00:01

It strikes me as odd that everyone says “you can do whatever you want” and yet, the vast majority of women still seem to want to drop their surname in favour of their husband’s? I know it’s tradition but a pretty obviously sexist one and I can’t fathom why women would want to uphold this.

DickJagger · 27/06/2024 00:03

So the choice is usually your husband’s name or your father’s name! I couldn’t wait to get rid of my father’s name

How so? If you want to word it like that then isn't the choice between your husbands fathers name, or your own fathers name? Why do men 'own' their surnames, but women are just borrowing them from fathers or husbands?

Shakespeareandi · 27/06/2024 00:04

I kept mine, OH his, and the children have double-barrelled surnames. IF they get married and decide they need to change their surname, they can choose any they want. I didn't want my OH's name, it's not my name. I like the link to my family.

WrongSortOfPoster · 27/06/2024 00:04

@Chocochick , me too. I changed mine because I preferred his, but he offered to change his to mine.

FeelingHotHotHotFeelingHotHotHot · 27/06/2024 00:04

Chocochick · 27/06/2024 00:01

It strikes me as odd that everyone says “you can do whatever you want” and yet, the vast majority of women still seem to want to drop their surname in favour of their husband’s? I know it’s tradition but a pretty obviously sexist one and I can’t fathom why women would want to uphold this.

You don't have to 'fathom' anything. Women have freedom to do what they like in the UK (within the law,) and if taking their husband's surname on marriage makes them happy and they want to do it, then so be it. They don't need your approval, or for you to 'fathom' why they do it. You do you hun.

DickJagger · 27/06/2024 00:04

Chocochick · 27/06/2024 00:01

It strikes me as odd that everyone says “you can do whatever you want” and yet, the vast majority of women still seem to want to drop their surname in favour of their husband’s? I know it’s tradition but a pretty obviously sexist one and I can’t fathom why women would want to uphold this.

I'm with you on this. It isn't a popular view but I don't understand why so many women still do it. Choicy choicy nicey nicey and all that but it is a strange practice!

Needanewname42 · 27/06/2024 00:05

PuttingDownRoots · 26/06/2024 22:59

Anyone can change their name to anything they like in the UK. (Well, unless its actually offensive)
You can even use two different names simultaneously as long as you aren't doing it to decieve people (so use your birth name professionally and a married name socially)

Somewhere along the line I changed my name on my passport but never with dvla. So I have official photo ID in both names.

It has never been an issue, declared it in the 'known by any other names' box for PVG clearance and zero issues.

FeelingHotHotHotFeelingHotHotHot · 27/06/2024 00:06

DickJagger · 27/06/2024 00:04

I'm with you on this. It isn't a popular view but I don't understand why so many women still do it. Choicy choicy nicey nicey and all that but it is a strange practice!

And yet a staggering 85% of women in the UK do it. Take their husband's surname on marriage.

Fancy that! It being such a STRANGE PRACTICE and all! Wink

Chocochick · 27/06/2024 00:11

@FeelingHotHotHotFeelingHotHotHot: freedom is an illusion and no, the UK does not have more of it than many other countries (much to a lot of Brits’ chagrin who have been told their country is a beacon of free choice). It is an anachronistic practice since marriage is meant to be an equal partnership and there is no equality in women overwhelmingly ditching their name and adopting the husband’s one.

Flossflower · 27/06/2024 00:12

DickJagger · 27/06/2024 00:03

So the choice is usually your husband’s name or your father’s name! I couldn’t wait to get rid of my father’s name

How so? If you want to word it like that then isn't the choice between your husbands fathers name, or your own fathers name? Why do men 'own' their surnames, but women are just borrowing them from fathers or husbands?

In future generations it might be different but the name I was born with was my father’s name. That is because for hundreds of years that is how things were done. I am not saying it was right. Even now, a mother may keep her father’s name but the name a child gets is usually the father’s or some double barrelled version.

Lovelylydia · 27/06/2024 00:28

We both double-barrelled. DH had to legally change his name by deed poll but I didn’t have to🤷‍♀️

GrumpyPanda · 27/06/2024 00:29

FeelingHotHotHotFeelingHotHotHot · 27/06/2024 00:06

And yet a staggering 85% of women in the UK do it. Take their husband's surname on marriage.

Fancy that! It being such a STRANGE PRACTICE and all! Wink

Chip on your shoulder much?

giespiece · 27/06/2024 00:32

When I got married, we created a new name - I have a very traditional Scottish surname, so we "Scottished" his surname