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Next doors daughter again!!

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Notthattimeofthemonth · 26/06/2024 20:27

Posted on a previous thread about next door daughter coming round our house all the time and just disrupting everything Climbing on furniture and damaging things.

I came back off holiday on Friday and brought DS a huge tub of his favourite chocolate from duty free. He has been saving them and only having a handful each time.

She came round on Saturday and DS showed her the chocolate what I brought. Soon as he left the room to go outside and play she ate the whole tub!!!! Baring in mind this is a huge tub of chocolate.

DS was so angry never seen him get this angry and he came and told me and said he wanted her out the house. She promised to replace them but hasn’t. They don’t have much money so I don’t expect it.

She keeps calling round everyday and I have been saying no as DS doesn’t want her here. It’s getting to the point where it’s embarrassing sending her back home 2-3 times a day.

How can I word this nicely to her mum that I don’t want her coming round. She’s a compulsive liar and a nasty little girl. (As horrible as it sounds)

OP posts:
Fraaahnces · 27/06/2024 11:35

I think you need to pop around in the early evening and speak to her mum in person. You need to state very clearly that the chocolate has not been replaced and you are very sick of her knocking on the door. She will not be allowed back in. In fact, both of them need to accept that you are not running a daycare centre.

SeulementUneFois · 27/06/2024 11:40

isthewashingdryyet · 26/06/2024 20:37

Find your teacher being cross voice and tell her never ever to call round again.
make her feel uncomfortable, she is not picking up on your hints and gentle curves, so get tough and mean

This OP.
Be very clear and direct.

Greentreesandbushes · 27/06/2024 12:05

She must have been left alone for a long time to eat all the chocolates? How did that come about?

MissMoneyFairy · 27/06/2024 12:14

If this is really happening then she needs to find friends her own age, after school and weekend clubs.

MrsMiddleMother · 27/06/2024 12:14

Forget 'rocking the boat'. You go to her mother and you say she ate all your sons chocolate and is constantly disrespectful so you don't want her in your home anymore so SHE needs to make sure she stops knocking as the door will be ignored from now on.

Floatlikeafeather2 · 27/06/2024 12:18

I've just read your other thread about this, trying to find out how old this girl is. So you've only had this girl as a neighbour for about 6 weeks and you've been on holiday (without your son) for part of that time? What happened while you were away? Did she stay away from your house and your son? You say she is older than your children - how much older? It seems to me that she's coming to see you, not your son, and I also think you're flattered by that and the hugging and the "second mum" stuff, which is really why you're not stopping her coming. It's a very short spell of time for her to have formed such an attachment unless you've encouraged her in some way. In the other thread, you also said that it was the mother who was texting you and asking if the girl could come round. So the solution would have been simple - you just say no, not convenient. You also claim the mother has mental health and alcohol issues - how do you know that? You seem to barely know her. Stop pandering to your ego and think about your son. It's his home (and his chocolate).

Lurkingandlearning · 27/06/2024 12:23

Notthattimeofthemonth · 26/06/2024 20:36

she knocked on the door Saturday morning to say she missed me whilst I was away and I felt guilty! And was suckered back in.

She outsmarted you.

Just follow the advice especially the strict teacher voice.

Or do what I do with random door knockers - as soon as I can see who is on the doorstep, I turn around and ignore them.

twodowntwotogo · 27/06/2024 13:01

Floatlikeafeather2 · 27/06/2024 12:18

I've just read your other thread about this, trying to find out how old this girl is. So you've only had this girl as a neighbour for about 6 weeks and you've been on holiday (without your son) for part of that time? What happened while you were away? Did she stay away from your house and your son? You say she is older than your children - how much older? It seems to me that she's coming to see you, not your son, and I also think you're flattered by that and the hugging and the "second mum" stuff, which is really why you're not stopping her coming. It's a very short spell of time for her to have formed such an attachment unless you've encouraged her in some way. In the other thread, you also said that it was the mother who was texting you and asking if the girl could come round. So the solution would have been simple - you just say no, not convenient. You also claim the mother has mental health and alcohol issues - how do you know that? You seem to barely know her. Stop pandering to your ego and think about your son. It's his home (and his chocolate).

This exactly. It's a really weird story - the main thing is she has upset your son and he doesn't want her in the house so prioritise him and tell the mum she can't call in any more. That's it. You're really making such a drama out of nothing much

betterangels · 27/06/2024 13:03

Floatlikeafeather2 · 27/06/2024 12:18

I've just read your other thread about this, trying to find out how old this girl is. So you've only had this girl as a neighbour for about 6 weeks and you've been on holiday (without your son) for part of that time? What happened while you were away? Did she stay away from your house and your son? You say she is older than your children - how much older? It seems to me that she's coming to see you, not your son, and I also think you're flattered by that and the hugging and the "second mum" stuff, which is really why you're not stopping her coming. It's a very short spell of time for her to have formed such an attachment unless you've encouraged her in some way. In the other thread, you also said that it was the mother who was texting you and asking if the girl could come round. So the solution would have been simple - you just say no, not convenient. You also claim the mother has mental health and alcohol issues - how do you know that? You seem to barely know her. Stop pandering to your ego and think about your son. It's his home (and his chocolate).

Interesting. Just text the mum and say enough is enough. It shouldn't be this hard after six weeks.

MissMoneyFairy · 27/06/2024 13:08

Don't use your son as an excuse, if she's a bully she might oick on him. Tell them she's not welcome in your house anymore, if they ask why be honest and say she's rude and disrespectful.

jeaux90 · 27/06/2024 13:26

JFC I'd be asking social services to do a welfare check on this kid. Poor thing.

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 27/06/2024 14:55

OnTheRightSideOfGeography · 27/06/2024 10:45

She may indeed have the hide of a rhino; or she may just be desperately hungry, desperately sad, desperately wanting to feel loved and some attention.

If her parents cared, they would stop her going over all the time in the first place. They would want to spend family time with her and also understand that another family want time to themselves.

Thankfully, I doubt that her situation is anywhere near as bad, but I keep thinking of poor little Daniel Pelka taking the remains of an apple from a bin at school and eating it. Without knowing (or possibly wanting to know) about his abusive home life, I'm sure anybody who saw him doing it would have called him greedy, dirty, socially inept, badly behaved, a wrong 'un, attention-seeking etc. He was entirely blameless - and forced into desperate actions by the adults who should have cared deeply for him, but couldn't actually have cared less.

You could be right.

I'm going on the information that OP has provided - namely, that she is a wet lettuce allowing her and her son to be taken advantage of by people who are much more robust. I read her previous thread as well; she's mentioned nothing about this child that seems abnormal other than the behaviour that breaks other people's belongings and eats other people's special treats.

If there is abuse or neglect going on, OP still doesn't need to say yes to this child. She can make the appropriate referrals.

BlueFlowers5 · 27/06/2024 17:53

It sounds like her home life is not what it should be. Please be directly firm with her before doing anything about contacting social services.

Buffs · 27/06/2024 17:54

Lessons all round here I’m afraid - don’t let a child, known to be a nuisance into your house, don’t leave her unsupervised, don’t show her chocolate, do not leave her with the chocolate. I didn’t catch the age of the child but I imagine, especially if she is hungry or doesn’t often get treats, she may be the least to blame in this scenario.

Scorchio84 · 27/06/2024 18:04

Gymmum82 · 26/06/2024 20:35

Just keep sending her back home every single time. If mum asks tell her your DS doesn’t want to be friends anymore after she ate all his chocolate

I think this is the only way to deal with her, her mother is an obvious gobshite & won't take the hint, what a nightmare

DinnaeFashYersel · 27/06/2024 18:06

HowIrresponsible · 26/06/2024 20:35

Social services? That'll stop it. Worried about a child who doesn't seem to be supervised.

Don't be ridiculous

wibblywobblywoo · 27/06/2024 18:12

labamba007 · 27/06/2024 08:08

I don't understand how long was she left on her own to eat the whole tub? Weird story.

That was my first thought as well, for someone you don't want in the house at all she's apparently been let in and then left alone for an extended period of time.....🤔🙄

Jacesmum1977 · 27/06/2024 18:12

Roundroundthegarden · 26/06/2024 21:15

The only person you should be angry with is yourself. You are an adult aren't you? This isn't someone breaking into your home are they? You are opening the door with a smile on your face then bitching about a child. You say she's an awful child but want to tip toe and dance around her? Go speak to the parents and make it clear that your son isn't interested in playing.

Absolutely this!
Idk who it was that said leave a message on the door addressed to the child but really???? Why would a grown up, a mother, any decent human being, do something so awful to a child.
Regardless of how she is, she is still a child and seemingly troubled one somehow.
Not a monster.

OP you need to go next door and speak with her parents. By doing that you’ll see a little into how her life is. You need to communicate to the other grown ups, parents that sadly your DS doesn’t want to play with her for a little while as the girl took something without asking or being offered.

It could be that she didn’t realise that she was doing such ‘a bad thing’.

I feel a bit bad for her if I’m honest. She sounds like she needs support from somewhere. She’s not your responsibility but you have options:

Continue to say no sorry not today with no explanation .

Above, with explanation (bit harsh though as adult to child… you’d have to word it wisely).

Pay her house a visit and talk to the parents.

If you get any feeling that things aren’t right, speak to social services.

Good luck!

Jacesmum1977 · 27/06/2024 18:17

DinnaeFashYersel · 27/06/2024 18:06

Don't be ridiculous

Not so ridiculous.
If she is being neglected, isn’t it better that it’s intervened?
If the OP has any beliefs that there is definitely neglect going on, then she should report it

TonTonMacoute · 27/06/2024 18:20

WorriedMama12 · 26/06/2024 21:10

Be honest and firm. "DS is still very angry and upset with you after you ate all of the gift of the chocolates that I gave him. He doesn't want you to come around anymore so please don't come back to the house" and shut the door.

This

Its not unkind it's the truth. If she doesn't have many boundaries at home she may simply not understand what she's done wrong. You need to explain to her that what she did was rude, and not how you behave in other people's homes.

FTMaz · 27/06/2024 18:29

How old are the children?

hoarahloux · 27/06/2024 18:44

Why don't you want to answer how old they are? Is it because they're 15? 😆

MissMoneyFairy · 27/06/2024 18:47

hoarahloux · 27/06/2024 18:44

Why don't you want to answer how old they are? Is it because they're 15? 😆

Or isn't really true

DinnaeFashYersel · 27/06/2024 18:48

@Jacesmum1977

If she is being neglected

If she's been neglected of course.

OP hasn't suggested anything of the sort. Just that she is annoying. And OP wants advice on how to say go away.

Social services are not the parenting police that you call when a child annoys you and eats your chocolate.

So yes it's ridiculous

WickedSerious · 27/06/2024 19:21

migraineagain · 26/06/2024 20:59

Tell her mum it has to stop could you have a word with her and tell her to stop coming to mine as its taking the piss.

Or just shout but not open the door PISS OFF.

I'd have done this a long time ago.

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