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Overheard convo - tell friend?

180 replies

camiclairi · 25/06/2024 09:31

Yesterday I went for drinks with some friends after work, couple of us brought our partners.
One of my friends is in a relatively new relationship, I haven't got a great feeling about him but she seems happy.

At one point in the evening my friend went to the bathroom, I then overheard her boyfriend talking to a stranger.
The stranger asked what his girlfriend did and he replied (she's work in events and marketing for a large very well known museum) saying what she does and followed it with "so not very bright but looks good on my arm" the stranger asked if she went to uni and he said "yeah but one of those pointless degrees that need banning" (English Lit & Classics at St Andrews ..... hardly Mickey Mouse stuff!), she also has a masters from Kings College! He then went into talking about his finance and economics degree.
She came back before anything else was said and the convo moved on.
However it's sat weird with me that he would talk about her this way. I think my friend is a genuinely intelligent, and extremely knowledgeable person, probably more so than many many people working in the city (I say as one of those people). I feel she deserves someone who is proud of her achievements and doesn't aim to diminish them. She is from an Uber wealthy background so I guess felt no need to do a job or degree she doesn't love!
I'm now thinking I should tell her I overheard this but other friends think I should keep out and she will realise sooner or later - or maybe she already knows and is fine with it.

AIBU wanting to tell friend?

OP posts:
TheBestFriend · 26/06/2024 19:38

I wouldn’t want to know most things, but I’d want to know THIS.

It’s early days when he should admire her and worship the ground she walks on. This is so disrespectful and they clearly don’t have the same values at all. Worlds apart and early on he slags her off to a stranger?!

Anything less isn’t good enough. This will only get worse over time

MadMadaMim · 26/06/2024 19:48

Please tell her.

Even if she was the least academic, jobless, hopeless person on earth, she should not be talked about in this way. I'd want to know.

He sounds like a total insecure dick

changeme4this · 26/06/2024 19:55

I would have said something at the time too and if she returned during what I had to say, then it’s out there, done and dusted.

HolidayAddict23 · 26/06/2024 19:55

I would tell my friend

Buffs · 26/06/2024 19:58

Don’t get involved. Don’t be the one triggering upset and drama. He’s clearly a Pratt and if she’s as bright as you say she is, she’ll soon work it out.

Qwertypo · 26/06/2024 20:07

Sounds like you have spoken to other friends about it. She should have heard before other friends

AffableApple · 26/06/2024 20:13

I'm afraid if you tell her, you're screwed; if you don't tell her, you're also screwed. As the messenger, you will be shot; but she's your friend, so you have to tell her. Be prepared for this friendship to be over for either a while, or permanently.

GreyhoundLurcher · 26/06/2024 20:26

its none of your business

Ohnobackagain · 26/06/2024 20:53

@camiclairi I’d have to gently tell her. I bet if it’s known she has a wealthy background she has all sorts trying to weedle their way in. What a creep talking about her like that.

HobbitDreader · 26/06/2024 21:25

It sounds like banter. It is what he said but he may not actually mean it. I would keep out of it completely.

Bigcat25 · 26/06/2024 23:20

Buffs · 26/06/2024 19:58

Don’t get involved. Don’t be the one triggering upset and drama. He’s clearly a Pratt and if she’s as bright as you say she is, she’ll soon work it out.

I would hate to be kept in the dark like that and hate it if a friend kept me in the dark like that. Truly depressing.

Bigcat25 · 26/06/2024 23:21

GreyhoundLurcher · 26/06/2024 20:26

its none of your business

Sure it is, she's her friend, not a stranger.

betterangels · 26/06/2024 23:30

He sounds like a complete knob. I'd want to know.

Noseybookworm · 26/06/2024 23:31

I think it depends on how close a friend she is. If it were one of my closest friends I'd definitely tell her. If she's more of a casual 'friend in the group' I might not as it would be harder to guess her reaction. If she were one of my closest friends, know they'd want me to tell them. Only you can gauge what her reaction might be!

katebushh · 26/06/2024 23:51

I'd possibly let him know first you heard every word he said then absolutely tell her. She deserves to know.

EnglishBluebell · 27/06/2024 00:01

StrawberriesandMango · 25/06/2024 10:36

@loropianalover because her friend might take his side as most women bloody do, At least if recorded and he becomes a walking red flag even more she's got it recorded

If OP confronts him (with or without a recording device), he will gaslight and deny it - then immediately go to his girlfriend and say "You won’t believe what your friend has just tried to falsely accuse me of....!"

EnglishBluebell · 27/06/2024 00:11

@camiclairi I honestly believe some people on MN forget that it's not humanly possible to close your ears/stop hearing something. The amount of times I've seen comments berating an OP for "eavesdropping" when they've innocently overheard something during their normal daily activities ie: not purposely listening in!
You'd think they'd realise this, but no... 🤷🏼‍♀️

NoTouch · 27/06/2024 00:37

I feel she deserves someone who is proud of her achievements and doesn't aim to diminish them.

She also deserves a friend who will tell her this privately and keep it to themselves instead of gossiping discussing with “other friends” instead.

How would you feel knowing your “other friends” were talking about this behind your back.

Poor form.

Ilovecleaning · 27/06/2024 10:59

HobbitDreader · 26/06/2024 21:25

It sounds like banter. It is what he said but he may not actually mean it. I would keep out of it completely.

I cannot stand insulting, disrespectful comments being renamed ‘banter’

Ilovecleaning · 27/06/2024 11:00

Like some other posters on here, I would mention it to him first - in as non-confrontational way as possible.

pollymere · 27/06/2024 13:26

It's a tough one. I've known plenty of people who don't rate BA as highly as BSc. Apparently doing maths and science automatically makes you more intelligent. I got treated like that at my DH Doctorate Presentation. All these scientists who couldn't understand the purpose of my very decent degree.

I would probably put it down to one-off dickishness. See how he is. If it's a pattern of behaviour then hopefully she'll realise, or if he does it again mention it then. It could also be that she acts dumb around him and plays down her qualifications and job because she believes that men don't like intelligent or successful women. (I got told once that the reason the boys I liked didn't like me back wasn't because I was ugly but because they felt intimidated. I know I lost a boyfriend because he hated the fact I just made him feel stupid - nothing I did, he was just not as intelligent.)

Bigcat25 · 27/06/2024 15:29

@pollymere but those were judgmental assholes who you spoke with for a few minutes. This is someone who she might marry and is only with her for her looks and money while not telling her that he doesn't think she's very bright.

azlazee1 · 27/06/2024 16:39

If this was a close friend I would absolutely tell her.

pollymere · 28/06/2024 00:50

Bigcat25 · 27/06/2024 15:29

@pollymere but those were judgmental assholes who you spoke with for a few minutes. This is someone who she might marry and is only with her for her looks and money while not telling her that he doesn't think she's very bright.

Actually they really weren't. Just ignorant outside their own field. As I said, the friend may be deliberately playing down her intelligence and it's not up to OP to destroy that.

Bigcat25 · 28/06/2024 04:05

I dont see how op is destroying anything. It's up to her friend what she does with that information.