Starmer, JKR, what's most important to most women?

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In my more than 60 years, decades of being a single working parent, many experiences of being on the bones of my arse, Labour Party policies have made huge beneficial differences in my day-to-day life. Worrying if there is a man in the next toilet or feeling uncomfortable with a trans woman has literally never been on my radar. If I'm making a decision about voting for the politician who can bring about the greatest good for the greatest number, it's Starmer every time. I wish JKR would just pipe down.

I think JKR is free to say whatever she likes about politics.

I don't see why she should 'pipe down' just because some people don't like what she says.

Ereshkigalangcleg · Today 20:06
You have no way of knowing whether your brother is a predator or a pervert actually.”

Ha! That’s the one thing I do know. He was both and I was 8.
As was my dad.
Neither were transmen.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5102941-starmer-jkr-whats-most-important-to-most-women-2

I agree with you there. Couldn't get much clearer.

Not even that as it happens. I’m angry with single issue voters, hence fiddling while Rome burns.

And you are entitled to that opinion , i am also a single mother , slightly younger than you .
I am the mother of daughters some of which are still children , i want them to have the opportunities/rights that i had , one of my daughters have suffered date rape and as a result will only see a doctor if they are female. i want her to have that right.
Labour talk about "safe spaces " not single sex , they talk about making sure the single sex exemptions apply , whilst saying transwoman with a grc are "female" so yeah im glad jk rowling has spoken up , now keir has no choice but to face in the elephant in the room he has been ignoring.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5102941-starmer-jkr-whats-most-important-to-most-women-2

But only women. You appear not to be as angry with TRA's who also make this their only issue from the other side and will probably vote Green and not Labour.

Of course she can, we live in a free country.

My point is that she is campaigning from a position of privilege, the issues that affect the vast majority in this country, she can avoid & if many voters follow her down the independent route, then the Tories could get back in, which i presume JKR doesn't want.

Why doesn't she campaign but stay on board with Labour, as Rosie Duffield has chosen to do?

Change as they say, always comes from within.

Were you angry with single issue voters who chose Labour due to Brexit in the last GE?

It seems to be just women that gets shouted down. Funny that.

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If some of the women here who are so frightened that Labour won't get in that they keep saying that it's really not important, or that transwomen aren't a risk, actually fought for the side of women's rights instead and got Labour to listen, that would be a victory.

I think some people really do know that women's rights are at risk and know that transwomen shouldn't be in women's spaces, but they feel that they have to argue the other way out of fear of Labour losing votes. And it's sad that the Tories have made people so fearful, beause of their awful policies. I understand why people are afraid. I just don't like women and girls being what end up as collateral damage.

Because there are no TRAs posting here. I’d vote Green myself if their economics weren’t from fairyland.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5102941-starmer-jkr-whats-most-important-to-most-women-2

There's several in this thread. They can frequently be found on other parts of MN.

It's fine you're clearly just not as bothered how they might vote and why.

Well that’s a first.
Are woman's rights luxury beliefs,
do they have nothing to do with the greater good.

Its Labour that’s treating woman as if they have no rights and shutting them up……very right I’d say!

Perhaps this is what she is doing! She is saying that perhaps she will have to consider voting independent, if Labour don't start to listen. She has been a huge supporter of Rosie Duffield.

People aren't 'following her down the independent route' unless they strongly believe that this is the most important issue.

She has privilege now, but still fights for the vulnerable, as well as donating millions towards them. That's not buying her way out of issues.

Eh? Did you read the article? The luxury beliefs are the whole TWAW crap....throwing vulnerable and disadvantaged women under the bus just because you've no issue with trans women in toilets.

I’ve never seen a single post on MN that says the poster will vote exclusively on a party’s stance on trans rights. Not one. Ever.

YABU to say that women who disagree with you politically should "pipe down". What are you afraid of? If it doesn't bother you, then fine. It bothers her, so she won't vote. What is the problem with her expressing her view?

If you are not bothered by transwomen in female bathrooms then reading her article isn't going to change who you vote for. So again, what on earth is the problem. Do you think that women can't handle the process of thinking through their own ideas and reaching a conclusion on what benefits them?

Seriously, it's because I'm terrified at the idea of 5 more years under the Tories

So? She's allowed to not to vote for someone, isn't she? Why's that's a problem?

and @BIossomtoes re reasons for voting
Personally I’d be more angry at people voting for a Party that has declared they will think about major policies once they’re in power.
Say nothing in their manifesto…..that’s so entitled do they think everyone’s too stupid to grasp the basics, at least.
Have no idea about gcse biology ….dread to think what their maths is like.

However.
It’s really none of my business how people chose to vote and I wouldn’t spend posts putting people down because

We Live In A Democracy

and if some are single issue voters….good for them. It’s there choice. At least they have an opinion based on something than a vote based on a wing and a prayer

You and me both. But unless something absolutely catastrophic happens in the next 11 days I think we’re probably OK.