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If you knew the Greens would win in your seat you'd vote for them

210 replies

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 11:07

In other words, people don't vote Green mainly because they think they have no chance.

Their manifesto on Education seems to correspond with a lot of views on mumsnet, aibu?

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BadBarry · 19/06/2024 13:41

No they hate women

Kitkat1523 · 19/06/2024 13:45

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 13:41

No funds to move. I will ask the council to assist, from their magic money tree.

Maybe just change your mindset….become a glass half full person ……and don’t vote Green Party 😊

bellinisurge · 19/06/2024 13:48

If Rosie Duffield or Tonia Antoniazzi were the candidate in my constituency, I would vote Labour in a heartbeat

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 13:48

Kitkat1523 · 19/06/2024 13:45

Maybe just change your mindset….become a glass half full person ……and don’t vote Green Party 😊

By nature I am an idealistic optimist (read, idiot). The situation in my home town has taken that glass, poured out the contents and shattered it into pieces.

Voting for the status quo and expecting different makes me a complete fool.

Vote who, then. Literally nobody has a better suggestion, nobody.

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Clearinguptheclutter · 19/06/2024 13:53

I would but it’s a waste of time in the GE
however the greens have a few seats on our council and I have voted for them in local elections and will do so again

Cooper77 · 19/06/2024 14:02

No, because I can't trust them on immigration. I'm desperate to save what's left of the countryside, but that's not going to happen unless we massively clamp down. In 2022, 750,000 extra people migrated to this small island. When you add in illegal immigrants, it was probably closer to a million. There's only one word for that – insanity. To house all those people, we'll have to build three new Manchesters every year.

In the last ten years, my local woods have been hacked down to build two giant housing estates, and a second housing estate has been built at the other end of the village. I drove to a village two miles from here last week and was shocked to see yet another massive housing estate going up – including a block of flats. When we're building blocks of flats out in the countryside you know something is wrong. As if all that wasn't enough, we've just been told that the long road connecting our village to the local town is going to have 800 new homes built alongside it. That road is choked with traffic NOW, so what the hell is it going to be like when those houses are built? And no matter how many of these ghastly rabbit hutches they jam on top of another, it's never enough. We always need more, more, more.

If the Green party really cared about the environment, they'd be fanatically campaigning for birth control and family planning across the world. I know someone will say "actually, we need more babies, not fewer," but they forget three things. First of all, the world's population has exploded over the last 100 years. In 1900, the were a billion of us. By 1960 that had trebled to three billion. It's now eight billion and we're heading for ten. So even if the world's population does begin to fall (which it's predicted to do in the 2060s) it will be falling from a great height. Second, though the birth rate is falling in Europe, in Africa it is booming, and the African population is going to double – right in the middle of a climate crisis. And third, there will soon be ways of slowing and even reversing human ageing. Lifespans of 130 or 150 will soon be normal, meaning people won't be dying and making room.

I'm green to the bone, in the sense that I want to save beautiful woodland and rivers and so on. I'm also keen to help in the battle against climate change. But there are two issues that scare the hell out of me, and they're both closely related to climate change. The first is overpopulation and the second is the mass movement of people. We're facing a double nightmare in which the world's population peaks just as climate change is begins to cause havoc.

bellinisurge · 19/06/2024 14:02

"Vote who, then. Literally nobody has a better suggestion, nobody."

That's the actual thing.

Spoil your paper or hold your nose and vote however you want.

Don't expect my X if you don't respect my sex

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 14:14

Thanks for the uplifting thoughts, @Cooper77 😊. I'll just nip down to my massively resourced and effective GP surgery for some suitable MH medication to deal with my remaining 25 years on the planet (let's hope to god it's not 40).

Still, at least I don't buy chicken from Lidl and there isn't an open sewer in my street (yet).

Any news on bubonic plague outbreaks?

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RoobarbAndMustard · 19/06/2024 14:16

TheCultureHusks · 19/06/2024 11:08

I don’t vote for women hating wankers, so no.

^ Neither do I.

Allofaflutter · 19/06/2024 14:16

It’s greens v conservatives where I am.

TheShellBeach · 19/06/2024 14:24

It's SNP versus Tory where I live.

I voted SNP until they were taken in by the TRAs.

I cannot vote Tory because their record in government has been utterly shameful.

I just don't know what to do.
I'll probably vote Labour.

Snugglemonkey · 19/06/2024 14:28

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 19/06/2024 11:33

Not a chance.

I live in Scotland and the Greens here are wired to the fecking moon.

I have had to experience them in government. They are loons and dangerous.

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Indeed

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 19/06/2024 14:32

TheShellBeach · 19/06/2024 14:24

It's SNP versus Tory where I live.

I voted SNP until they were taken in by the TRAs.

I cannot vote Tory because their record in government has been utterly shameful.

I just don't know what to do.
I'll probably vote Labour.

I think it's SNP vs Labour here. I can't vote Tory so it might be Labour to get the SNP out, if I vote at all. I can't abide the gender nonsense.

bellinisurge · 19/06/2024 14:35

"It’s greens v conservatives where I am."

Hard to choose between two steaming turd piles

Giggorata · 19/06/2024 14:36

No, for all the reasons of misogyny and lunacy detailed above.

MadameMassiveSalad · 19/06/2024 14:39

I'd vote whoever would get the Tories out.

Buildingupandup · 19/06/2024 14:42

You should vote for whoever you want to win. I don't understand people who think that their vote is wasted unless they vote for the winning party
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SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 14:47

Buildingupandup, this thread was more about understanding why more people aren't voting Green, it is now very clear to me why not but the already grim choices now look even grimmer.

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Rightsraptor · 19/06/2024 14:53

Hell would freeze over first.

I don't doubt that lots of local GP people are good and have the 'save the world' ethos still, but the higher echelons of the party are either bat shit crazy or liars, neither of which is acceptable in politicians.

I'm a GP member.

BloodyHellKenAgain · 19/06/2024 14:55

I stopped supporting the greens when I heard them supporting open borders which very much would destroy what's left of our welfare state.
The icing on the cake is their frankly insane support for trans rights above and beyond everything else, even the bloody environment.
It's ironic that my interest in Green peace and the Rainbow Warrior sinking lead me to support them for many years and now the rainbow they display means something so very awfully different.

QuickDraining · 19/06/2024 14:55

I don't want to actively disparage the Greens, in the past and at least nationally they are making the right noises. The UK is in such a sorry state it's difficult to know here to start. They are such tame shrews though with no power. Not one mention of legalising and the promotion of electric scooters, and other small electric vehicles and accompanying infrastructure. Seem to have lost their vision. But at least better than the others. Labour will likely win on a protest vote, that they'll think is some endorsement of their 'policies', and we'll end up with nothing new only slightly better than what we have. I wish we had some form of proportional representation. This is the most uninspiring election campaign.

ErrolTheDragon · 19/06/2024 14:56

The greens have really lost their way.

If I had a sensible green candidate (not one of the 'non-men' idiots) , and I lived in a labour/green marginal I still might - because I don't think any party having an overwhelming majority is good for democracy and think there should be a few representatives of the minority parties (not a fan of first past the post).

Penfeatherington · 19/06/2024 15:00

I wouldn't vote for them at all after their suggested policy to drive down c section numbers because too many women are having sections. The policy was not to improve healthcare, or employ more midwives, or open more midwife led centres. Nope. Their focus is on reducing life saving interventions.

Women hating wankers.

TheBanffie · 19/06/2024 15:10

Hell no. Woman hating wankers sums it up nicely, with a side order of total incompetence. The Scottish Gov is being sued by Biffa for £200 million over the Greens failed deposit return scheme, they've slashed the roads budget and wanted to completely kill the Scottish fishing industry with the protected marine reserve proposals, and have banned new wood burning stoves even in rural areas with unreliable mains services.

FredtheCatsMum · 19/06/2024 15:40

I will vote Green. I live in a safe Labour seat and I want to support them. I disagree with them on some things, agree on a lot more. There are some noisy ones who get a lot of attention, but also many good candidates. Adrian Ramsey (Co leader ) is one. Before they get anywhere near power they will become less radical and drop some of the dafter stuff, but meantime, a bit of diversity of thinking would help our parliament.

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