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If you knew the Greens would win in your seat you'd vote for them

210 replies

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 11:07

In other words, people don't vote Green mainly because they think they have no chance.

Their manifesto on Education seems to correspond with a lot of views on mumsnet, aibu?

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SilverElf · 19/06/2024 12:55

Think you just have to look at the candidates in your area - maybe you local green candidate actually knows what a woman is and won’t support self-id or your local xxx candidate is really hot on education.

The national choices are all so shit, so I think this time it’s really important to talk to your local candidates, tell them what you care about, ask them what they’ll do & vote accordingly.

eurochick · 19/06/2024 12:56

I would not vote for any party displaying such dreadful misogyny.

It's a real shame. I am deeply concerned about climate change. It's an existential threat facing humanity. And most governments are just tinkering around the edges of what they need to do. I'd like to see a government make real environmental changes. Instead they are pandering to TRAs and putting forward policies about how women should give birth. They have completely lost their way.

Liliee · 19/06/2024 12:58

Are you really saying you didn't know about the Green Party stance on women and on child safeguarding? Look up their electoral officer, child rapist David Challenor. Their appalling handling of that was when they lost me. I had stood for them locally and voted for them from age 18 until then.

Never again.

RoyKentwhistle · 19/06/2024 12:59

TheCultureHusks · 19/06/2024 11:08

I don’t vote for women hating wankers, so no.

This

ginasevern · 19/06/2024 13:00

The Greens are a bunch of privileged NIMBYS (not in my backyard). Solve the housing crisis as long as it doesn't infringe on the view from their own extremely large middle class home. Unfortunately that's my personal experience of them.

Wavesaves · 19/06/2024 13:01

I would if I thought they had a chance. However, my area is an SNP seat that may swing to Labour, so I'll be voting SNP to try to keep Labour out (plus the SNP candidate had actually engaged with us and visited houses with campaign information, as opposed to the Labour candidate who comes across as awful and only takes photos out campaigning in the nearest large town, forgetting the rest of the constituency).

JurassicClark · 19/06/2024 13:02

I joined so I could vote against the batshit gender identity nonsense and drag us back to being focused on the environment, and not anti-women.

I’ve watched members I voted for and hugely respect get hounded out of the Greens. I hope they can find reality once again, but the current leadership isn’t interested.

I don’t think there’s a single party offering decent policies for women. It’s so fucking depressing.

tennesseewhiskey1 · 19/06/2024 13:02

They’re fucking crazy - no way.

chattyness · 19/06/2024 13:04

they're incompetent money wasting, woman hating, wankers so no I'd never vote for them ever, always against! They are scumbags

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 13:05

That's what I'm in the process of doing, @SilverElf. Would be a LibDem voter by inclination but the party leader is hypocritical and unethical. Although the local LD candidate has given me some factual answers to a question I asked them, the rest of the local party have nothing positive or convincing to say, in fact quite the opposite.

As pp said, it is utterly pathetic.

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EdithStourton · 19/06/2024 13:06

I know our Green candidate slightly.
And the answer is a resounding NO.

mountaingoatsarehairy · 19/06/2024 13:08

Have you read their manifesto?

nuclear disarmament- last country that did that ? Ukraine.

8% NI if you earn over £52k. Nah.

Frequent flyer restrictions. Like how???

just off the top of my head -+ Aimee Chanelor and the non-men and all the effort they put to shutting up women now and not environment stuff

Ifitaintgotnoswing · 19/06/2024 13:09

I’m not going to vote for a party that puts my tax up by 8%

Ifitaintgotnoswing · 19/06/2024 13:10

Also i know the green ml standing and he is a complete tosser
so double no

Kitkat1523 · 19/06/2024 13:10

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 11:45

Why is investing in education, abolishing Ofsted and abolishing tuition fees crap?

But these things aren’t on everyone’s agenda….these won’t get the silver vote

shuffleofftobuffalo · 19/06/2024 13:14

I won't vote green because their policies are variously batshjt in theory and unworkable in practice.

I've experience of them being in charge of local govt and it was a shitshow with a lasting negative impact. Spectacular anyone could do so much damage in such a short time tbh.

Green does not equal cares about the world etc etc, they are politicians with an agenda, just like all the others.

DelythBeautyQueen · 19/06/2024 13:14

The Greens are batshit loonies. That's why people don't vote for them.

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 13:22

TheShellBeach · 19/06/2024 13:11

Yes. None of the parties' leaders are OK, nor have they ever been for as long as I can remember, also there are paedos hiding in plain sight everywhere. Beyond my control, all of it.

I'm simply trying to find an antidote to constantly having to look at the utter despair of this shitty awful country we live in. So far I have found 1 principled strong-minded candidate, that is the best I can do in this area.

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Viewfrommyhouse · 19/06/2024 13:23

TheCultureHusks · 19/06/2024 11:08

I don’t vote for women hating wankers, so no.

This 👏

Kitkat1523 · 19/06/2024 13:26

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 13:22

Yes. None of the parties' leaders are OK, nor have they ever been for as long as I can remember, also there are paedos hiding in plain sight everywhere. Beyond my control, all of it.

I'm simply trying to find an antidote to constantly having to look at the utter despair of this shitty awful country we live in. So far I have found 1 principled strong-minded candidate, that is the best I can do in this area.

So what’s your stance on nuclear weapons? …you happy for them to be dismantled ?

Kitkat1523 · 19/06/2024 13:27

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 13:22

Yes. None of the parties' leaders are OK, nor have they ever been for as long as I can remember, also there are paedos hiding in plain sight everywhere. Beyond my control, all of it.

I'm simply trying to find an antidote to constantly having to look at the utter despair of this shitty awful country we live in. So far I have found 1 principled strong-minded candidate, that is the best I can do in this area.

So what’s keeping you in this ‘shitty awful country’ OP ?

magicmole · 19/06/2024 13:36

GatherlyGal · 19/06/2024 11:34

Maybe @boombang but they don't get treated very well by the party. Many have been booted out for their views.

Including people who have been members of the Greens since the 1980s. Others like me (a former GPEW and Green Party Women member) have had enough and quit. I left over the the Challenor debacle (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/12/green-party-failed-to-properly-investigate-child-abuser-report) then rejoined only to see talented women being suspended for wanting to uphold the current law. I've now left for good. There are some wonderful, dedicated people in the local party who are still focused on environmental issues but the national party seems to have lost its collective mind because of identity politics.

Just like parts of the Tory party became "Blukip", the change in the Greens seemed to be more noticeable when Starmer took over the Labour leadership and some people jumped ship to the Greens. It might just be a coincidence of course...

As a woman who believes that sometimes a person's birth sex matters more than any gender identity they might have, I'm not welcome now.

The time and money that I used to spend on the party now goes directly to grassroots (pun intended) environmental projects in the hope it might actually do some good. No OP I won't vote for them.

Green party failed to properly investigate child abuser – report

David Challenor twice acted as election agent despite having been arrested and charged

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/12/green-party-failed-to-properly-investigate-child-abuser-report

NeedToChangeName · 19/06/2024 13:37

Vote for Patrick Harvie and Lorna Slater? No way, sorry

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 13:41

Kitkat1523 · 19/06/2024 13:27

So what’s keeping you in this ‘shitty awful country’ OP ?

No funds to move. I will ask the council to assist, from their magic money tree.

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