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If you knew the Greens would win in your seat you'd vote for them

210 replies

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 11:07

In other words, people don't vote Green mainly because they think they have no chance.

Their manifesto on Education seems to correspond with a lot of views on mumsnet, aibu?

OP posts:
Kitkat1523 · 19/06/2024 11:45

No I wouldnt

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 11:45

Artesia · 19/06/2024 11:44

But the responses on here largely are about policies. They are crap.

Why is investing in education, abolishing Ofsted and abolishing tuition fees crap?

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PleaseletitbeSpring · 19/06/2024 11:46

I went to see my Green candidate speak. He was very articulate but spouted a load of nonsense and definitely didn't know what is happening locally, even though he lives in the constituency. He was practically sobbing over no new builds having air source heat pumps even though a 400 home estate is currently being built with exactly that.

Elphame · 19/06/2024 11:46

Absolutely not.

They'd make a worse mess of the economy in less time than it took Liz Truss

FranticHare · 19/06/2024 11:46

Nope. Not a chance

Shame really. A party focussed on the environment should be of real interest - but they are total bat shit. I thought at one point they might implode - but sadly not yet.

stressedespresso · 19/06/2024 11:47

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 11:42

This is all really depressing and doesn't at all fit the description of my local candidate, who is really excellent on local issues and that is what matters to me.

Just reinforces my belief that voting needs to be about policies, not parties and identities, and that this current system we have is absolutely hopeless.

I'll be meeting my local group tomorrow, if they are as batshit as everyone suggests then I really want to just go and live in a cave somewhere.

My local candidate is wonderful - I know her on both a personal & professional level and she is truly passionate about our constituency. I am afraid though that I simply cannot bring myself to vote for such a batshit party. Their recent election ‘campaign’ (if you could even call it that as it’s been so ridiculous) has put the nail in the coffin for me

bellinisurge · 19/06/2024 11:47

OP, all parties have abandoned women.

The ones who pay lip service to protecting women's rights are doing it as a wedge issue so that you will ignore the batshit stuff they spout.

Fuck. All. Of. Them.

I may write this on my spoiled ballot instead of
"Don't expect my X if you don't respect my sex"

User2460177 · 19/06/2024 11:47

Absolutely no chance. I live in Scotland and the greens are incompetent, misogynist, antisemitic lunatics. They deny science (CASS report) and are disinterested in the environment.

Silviasilvertoes · 19/06/2024 11:47

I’d love to, we need an environmentally sound party. It’s just such a pity that they spout such toxic rubbish on gender. I could never vote for them.

DowntonCrabby · 19/06/2024 11:48

I have but never will again.

CocoapuffPuff · 19/06/2024 11:48

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 11:42

This is all really depressing and doesn't at all fit the description of my local candidate, who is really excellent on local issues and that is what matters to me.

Just reinforces my belief that voting needs to be about policies, not parties and identities, and that this current system we have is absolutely hopeless.

I'll be meeting my local group tomorrow, if they are as batshit as everyone suggests then I really want to just go and live in a cave somewhere.

You must have been in a cave already to not know all this stuff. Seriously, how haven't you even noticed? Your candidate may indeed be amazing but overall, the Greens are pure lunatics.

stressedespresso · 19/06/2024 11:48

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 11:45

Why is investing in education, abolishing Ofsted and abolishing tuition fees crap?

Why is wanting to force women into natural births acceptable?

Silviasilvertoes · 19/06/2024 11:48

But I also used to work in government and these days my attitude is very much a plague on all your houses.

NotAllowed · 19/06/2024 11:49

Never in a million years. Climate change is a hoax and liberalism degrades society.

Silviasilvertoes · 19/06/2024 11:50

NotAllowed · 19/06/2024 11:49

Never in a million years. Climate change is a hoax and liberalism degrades society.

Donald, is that you?

AnneLovesGilbert · 19/06/2024 11:50

Absolutely not. If I thought they’d get in I’d probably move. Most of them are certifiable.

crackofdoom · 19/06/2024 11:51

PeonySeasons · 19/06/2024 11:35

Absolutely no chance.

Forcing women to go through vaginal birth by denying them a cesarean section is a weird platform for any party.

See also: men are not women and gaslighting us doesn't make it true.

And fantasy promises like 70% of all UK electricity to come from wind power by 2030 are just horseshit. Why lie?

I don't see that as being wildly unachievable. On a windy day wind's share of the total energy generation mix can easily reach the high 60s percent as it is.

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 11:51

No CocoapuffPuff, I am between a rock and a hard place. You can't have it all and I don't want to not vote, so I have to pick my policies and decide what's most important. With 3DC, for me, that's education.

Where I am, the Labour party is atrocious and the corruption is just eyewatering.

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FranticHare · 19/06/2024 11:51

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 11:45

Why is investing in education, abolishing Ofsted and abolishing tuition fees crap?

As 3 standalone items, that's great. And as they are never going to get near power at Westminster, really easy to promise! Reform have also got a couple of good slogans. Even UKIP will have an idea somewhere that I might agree on. But the parties overall? Not a chance will they get my vote! I would probably prefer another 4 years of Conservatives - and I def don't want that either!

They are absolute loons unfortunately.

tobee · 19/06/2024 11:53

I thought it was the other way around. That people voted for them in the full knowledge that they wouldn't get in. But they could feel good about themselves and virtue signal.

NotAllowed · 19/06/2024 11:53

Silviasilvertoes · 19/06/2024 11:50

Donald, is that you?

Sorry I just don’t want to be taxed for merely existing. It’s a scam designed to frighten people into submission so more liberties can be taken from us. Geo-engineering and weather manipulation done BY our governments on the other hand. I’m all for environmentalism and protecting ecosystems. I’m just not buying the “climate change is all our fault” garbage.

CocoapuffPuff · 19/06/2024 11:54

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 11:51

No CocoapuffPuff, I am between a rock and a hard place. You can't have it all and I don't want to not vote, so I have to pick my policies and decide what's most important. With 3DC, for me, that's education.

Where I am, the Labour party is atrocious and the corruption is just eyewatering.

Oh I understand that.

I have nobody to vote for. A century after women got the vote, it has successfully been stolen from me by parties who will reduce my mere existance to a feeling in a man's head.

pigsDOfly · 19/06/2024 11:55

Not in a million years would I vote for the Green Party.

There's a very good reason they have no chance a winning any seats, apart from the one in Brighton.

PeonySeasons · 19/06/2024 11:55

SlothOnARope · 19/06/2024 11:45

Why is investing in education, abolishing Ofsted and abolishing tuition fees crap?

Have you actually read the manifesto in full? Do you agree with it all? If so, vote for them. If not, review the other manifestos for all candidates standing in your area and get a broader perspective of what's being proposed by all of them.

Serriadh · 19/06/2024 11:56

Exactly the opposite for me, OP. I’d be happy to give the Greens a “protest” vote in an otherwise safe seat so show I’d like environmental issues to be higher on the political agenda. But I wouldn’t if there was the slightest chance they’d end up in power. They are a basket case nationally and I disagree strongly with their stance on nuclear power. Party discipline is poor so there are even more loonies than the mainstream parties. And like the Lib Dems, individual candidates can be great on ‘local issues’ but none of that adds up nationally (or sometimes even aligns with their national policy).

It’s a problem with our electoral system that we aren’t really voting for someone to represent local issues, we’re voting to determine the makeup of the national government.

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