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To make my husband sleep outside.

266 replies

FarawayFlower · 14/06/2024 23:13

My husband frequently goes out after work for drinks with his colleagues, boss and the senior leaders at his work. He has a very well paid and respected job, and claims that city culture (London) very much promotes this aspect of his work. I do not have a problem with this, and I do know that much of the networking within his field does come from staying out for drinks and dinner after work.

HOWEVER, my husband never, ever takes a key to our home out with him! He asks me to leave the back door unlocked, which I do not feel comfortable doing as we have three small children, one of which is a baby. Even if it was just me in the house, I would not want to leave it unlocked. My flat was burgled a few years before I met my husband and this has made me even more vigilant about security. I do not understand why he cannot just take a key with him. The last few times he has come home, he has woken me (and probably the neighbours) up by ringing the door bell, calling my phone, knocking on the door. This is all after midnight.

He has just messaged me to say he is on his way home and to leave the back door unlocked. I have told him that if he does not have a key, he will need to sleep on the sofa in the outbuilding as I am not leaving the door unlocked, neither am I prepared to be woken up in the middle of the night to let him in!!

He’s now got really shitty with me telling me I am being unreasonable. Am I?

OP posts:
Nat6999 · 15/06/2024 03:12

Get him a key on a string Roy Cropper style, no key, no come in. Stupid manchild.

Fraaahnces · 15/06/2024 03:15

Fuck no! Not unreasonable. Even butlers aren’t on shift 24/7. You are entitled to sleep. Sleep deprivation is considered a form of torture by the United Nations. He can fuck right off.

Youhaveyourhandsfull · 15/06/2024 03:18

That's quite annoying but I never take keys anywhere! Don't think I know where any are. The front door is always open if anyone is out, so I get the fact it's something some people are used to. But waking you up isn't on obviously.

arialllla · 15/06/2024 03:37

Youhaveyourhandsfull · 15/06/2024 03:18

That's quite annoying but I never take keys anywhere! Don't think I know where any are. The front door is always open if anyone is out, so I get the fact it's something some people are used to. But waking you up isn't on obviously.

This is some peoples life, such a safe place. But then move to a different area you change and don't justify leaving your door open when you have babies to protect just because that's how you were brought up

Pinkychilla · 15/06/2024 03:50

That is crazy expecting you to leave it unlocked our door is always locked around here I can't imagine leaving it unlocked would feel very unsafe anyone could just walk in. We have a key safe which is so useful as husband always forgetting keys

3luckystars · 15/06/2024 03:54

Nclow · 15/06/2024 00:22

I had this with my DH not taking a key when he went out to exercise.

Set a boundary OP. Boundaries are something that do not require the other person to do anything. They simply state clearly what you are or are not going to do. You set them and then it's very important to follow through.

"I want to let you know that I won't let you in anymore when you don't have a key".

You don't have to explain and you don't have to give him suggestions as to how he can deal with the situation. He knows it's disruptive and he knows he could just take a key or leave one out somewhere. He's doing it because somewhere in his brain he thinks that letting him in is something you should do for him (probably for a reason related to power or control) and he doesn't care that it's disruptive or unsafe for you, because on a deep level he doesn't value your time or right to rest as much as he should.

Then you follow through. Don't let him in. He will flap and get annoyed and try to guilt or force you into doing it. Don't, this is what people do when they run up against a boundary - they try to force it down and get over it. State your boundary again and again until he figures out that it's not going to come down just because he kicked off.

After you don't let him in once or twice he won't do it again.

Stay firm and good luck.

This is great advice. He sounds like a total ape.

Westpoint · 15/06/2024 04:07

Get a smart lock.

I mean, I know you shouldn’t have to but it solves the immediate problem.

TeaGinandFags · 15/06/2024 05:29

Socialising may be part of his job but keeping a key in your pocket is part of being an adult.

You are not his skivvy. You set your boundaries, keep to them.

An outdoor key safe would be a practical solution but not if he likes valet service.

BoxOfCats · 15/06/2024 05:58

Just get a key safe for next time?

grinandslothit · 15/06/2024 06:04

He's being a controlling jerk.

Bumblebeeinatree · 15/06/2024 06:05

If there's an out house he could sleep in can you hide a key in there for him to use when he gets back late?

HousedInMySoul · 15/06/2024 06:07

Get one of those thumb print locks

parentfodder · 15/06/2024 06:15

Absolutely not. A night in the out building might help him to take a key

Seabreeze18 · 15/06/2024 06:18

Stand up for yourself op! He is not respecting your safety or need for sleep!

Keepthosenamesgoing · 15/06/2024 06:19

Put a key under a flowerpot or whatever. It's not that hard !

CheeseCakeSunflowers · 15/06/2024 06:32

Although I agree he should take a key, maybe a compromise could be getting one of those key boxes that are accessed with a pin number like you get with rented holiday cottages. You could fix it up in the outbuilding you mention so its not too obvious and only put a key in when he's out.

Coconutter24 · 15/06/2024 06:38

Calling · 14/06/2024 23:22

Change the lock and don't tell him! 🤣

What good will that do he doesn’t have any keys anyway so he’s already locked out 😂😂

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 15/06/2024 07:05

Big job in the City and can't (won't) manage a simple housekey 😂😂

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 15/06/2024 07:22

Apileofballyhoo · 14/06/2024 23:18

Why cant he take a key?

I'm guessing it's one of these.

To make my husband sleep outside.
Carpetmoth · 15/06/2024 07:23

Key boxes only work if you put the key back in after. I wonder who's job it will be to put the key back? Can't he wear a key on a lanyard?

Ifyoucouldreadmymindlove · 15/06/2024 07:24

He is unbelievably selfish. What a twat. How fucking hard is it to carry a key?! You’re not asking him to carry an anvil.

missmousemouth · 15/06/2024 07:29

Copied from 'Compare the Market', with respect to what can invalidate an insurance policy.

"

Not keeping your home secure

Insurance providers may not pay out for a burglary claim if there are no signs of forced entry at your home. Leaving windows or doors open or unlocked, or hiding keys near the front door, could mean part or all of your claim is not paid.
And be accurate when you describe yourdoor and window lockss*. When you claim, loss adjusters are likely to check they match what you told your provider.
"

Updownturnup · 15/06/2024 07:36

Don't know how they work but you can install locks which work off your phone or thumb print. All sounds a bit James Bond but we viewed a house once and the estate agent was very excited to show us the locking system. I would leave a key out in the garden tonight but when things are calmer in the morning insist he arranges something different for future. Doesn't sound like he respects you if he can't appreciate your need for security and sense of safety.

Topee · 15/06/2024 07:47

How difficult is it to take a door key with you. So selfish of him to expect you to stay awake.

I’ve been burgled and it was terrifying (was in the house when it happened), there’s not a chance I’d leave my door unlocked. I’m sure that would affect, possibly invalidate, any insurance claim should anything happen?

LittleEsme · 15/06/2024 07:53

Get him a dog tag style chain and he can wear his key around his neck.

It would really get to me though. He's literally putting his needs way above yours.