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Really dislike 16-year-old niece: don't want to have her to stay

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valsays · 12/06/2024 14:11

My sister was divorced several years ago and is sole parent to my niece who's almost 16. Her ex lives abroad and sees his DD rarely. I used to get on really well with DN and spent quite a lot of time with her until she reached the age of around 13, at which point she started to become obnoxious. I ignored the snide remarks and lack of consideration or gratitude for as long as I could, but last year things reached a head.

She and a friend of hers came to stay with me for 4 nights, as they have a couple of times a year for some years. I live in London and when she stays I do things with them that they wouldn't be able to do where they live. Last year we went down the Thames to Hampton Court on a boat, we shopped at Camden Market and Spitalfields and Hoxton, we went to Tate Modern and the Globe theatre, we saw a couple of shows and a couple of films. I pay for everything, obviously. DN's friend was lovely. DN was a complete nightmare. Didn't want to go out and do anything but was angling to go clubbing and angry with me for saying no. She was 14! Didn't want to go anywhere I suggested, couldn't suggest anything she'd like to do. One day we had a quiet day locally, because she was so adamant about not going out, and she complained we didn't do anything. I tried talking to her to find out what was going on, but she told me to eff off and then had a furious rant at me. She was really trying to be hurtful. I soaked it up and tried to comfort her friend, who found the situation difficult, but it really spoiled the last couple of days of their visit and she had another major outburst in the car when I took them home.

Last Christmas I bought her something that I'm sure she'd said she wanted. Something that cost £300. I was there when she opened it, with my DM and DS and other family members around. DN opened her present, pulled a face and then threw it at me and said 'You're as shit at buying presents as everything else' and walked out and slammed the door on us. My DM was shocked. My DS went after DN and told her off and there was a big row that ruined the day. DN hasn't spoken to me or contacted me since then. I've messaged her occasionally and she's just ignored me.

My DS knows what DN is like, but is still anticipating that this August I'll have her and the friend to stay as usual. As the time approaches I feel less and less like doing it. Their visits cost me over £1k, which I don't begrudge. But I'm not going to spend that sort of money and also soak up the abuse.

I've contacted my DS to say I'm not sure I want to continue the tradition. My DS says she has to face this kind of behaviour every day and it's just part of dealing with teens. She's actually accused me of being unreasonable for not carrying on as usual. AIBU?

OP posts:
Muffin101 · 12/06/2024 14:12

There’s not a hope in hell that I would be hosting her, especially at such effort and expense.

Hoppinggreen · 12/06/2024 14:14

I have got teens and they don't behave like that so no, its not a part of dealing with them.
No way would I be having her to stay

Greengrapeofhome · 12/06/2024 14:14

Yanbu at all. I absolutely wouldn’t be having such an ungrateful teen to stay and spending that kind of money on her. It would also be massively awkward after how she treated you at Christmas. Did your DS not make her apologise?

your sister is massively unreasonable here to expect this of you. Don’t say yes and allow them to walk all over you.

Chatterboxy · 12/06/2024 14:14

It would be a big no from me!

Bonbon21 · 12/06/2024 14:14

Tell your sister to jog on.. and parent her brat..
Enjoy your peaceful August..
Whats the saying about not rewarding bad behaviour?

Allthehorsesintheworld · 12/06/2024 14:15

I’ve known some pretty difficult teenagers but none behaved like your DN and the Christmas gift. I think you have to make a stand. No they can’t stay is sufficient.

TheSnowyOwl · 12/06/2024 14:15

The behaviour isn’t normal but it sounds like your sister has normalised it in her own head, which will enable your niece to carry on as she has been.

Just tell your niece and sister that the last visit didn’t work out so you won’t be repeating it again. Then stand firm.

SiriAlexa · 12/06/2024 14:16

I think it’s really important that you don’t have her and the reason is made clear, so that DN can understand her actions have consequences. If DN apologises then maybe you could reconsider.

Globetrote · 12/06/2024 14:16

YANBU there’s no chance in hell I would be hosting and paying over £1k to entertain such a rude, ungrateful person.

I hope you got a refund on the Christmas present and in future she’d be getting a tenner in a card.

Bbq1 · 12/06/2024 14:16

Just tell ds the truth - her daughter is horrible - rude, entitled and quite frankly sounds absolutely vile. They need to spend the summer sorting their daughter out.

Marblessolveeverything · 12/06/2024 14:16

No I have a teen he has had very rare moments but they were moments. No way would I host that brat.

Catnipcupcakes · 12/06/2024 14:17

Put your foot down OP. Say you’ll be civil in her company at family events but you won’t be hosting her or buying her presents again. And stand firm.

Porageeater · 12/06/2024 14:17

Absolutely would not be having her no. I’ve a just turned 16 year old and she wouldn’t behave like this! Even if she can sometimes be a bit challenging with me she’s polite to everyone else.

Zoflorabore · 12/06/2024 14:17

You’re an Angel. That is all.

Idontjetwashthefucker · 12/06/2024 14:17

It's outrageous that your sister expects you to do this in the first place at your expense! Are you paying for the friend too, if so, why?

EatTheGnome · 12/06/2024 14:18

The simple answer is simply that you aren't her mum and don't have to put up with it so you won't be. She can visit when she apologises and grows up.

Pogointospring · 12/06/2024 14:18

Absolutely no way. Doesn’t sound like it would be enjoyable for you, her or the friend. All traditions of this type end eventually.

I’d keep trying to stay in touch with her in low key ways - I wouldn’t just cut her off, but nor would I be spending £300 on a present or having her 24/7 for multiple days. Hopefully she’ll be more pleasant when she grows up a bit.

cheddercherry · 12/06/2024 14:18

No, you are not at all unreasonable and I’d be assuming niece isn’t coming since she’s not bothered to reply for six months. For what it’s worth it’s definitely over and beyond the realm of a normal bratty teenager and this monster is entirely of your sisters making. You shouldn’t have to pay the price for her total lack of parenting in the form of verbal abuse. It’s not acceptable, you wouldn’t accept it from your own children, or strangers on the street why the hell do you need to accept it from your niece?!

Motnight · 12/06/2024 14:19

Absolutely no. I speak as the mother of a DD who was very challenging at the age of 16. But nothing like what you have described

RubyGemStone · 12/06/2024 14:19

No chance is she coming to stay. Do not allow your sister to guilt trip you, as it seems like her inadequate approach which has created this terrible behaviour.

I've had several teens myself, and they can be a fucking nightmare but they would never have behaved so rudely to a family member and anything similar to that display would have seen much harsher consequences resulting in some form of proper apology not the radio silence you've had.

Doesn't need to be the end of your relationship but I'd not be hosting her until she grows up a bit. 16-18 is especially tricky as I expect she will want to do things with just the friend that are more adult and you, not being the parent will probably feel extra conflicted.

GoldDuster · 12/06/2024 14:19

Being a doormat is not part of dealing with your siblings teen, and you shouldn't do something you don't want to do because your sister thinks you should.

That would be a hard no from me, and I'd be happy to explain why, to both of them . You didn't enjoy it, you don't want to do it again. The end.

Daphnis156 · 12/06/2024 14:20

What a ghastly young woman she is.
Don't let her stay.
If you do, expect the same treatment for being a doormat.

MrsKwazi · 12/06/2024 14:20

My teens are no angels but there’ll be hell to play if they behave like that! YAdefNBU OP.

rainfordays · 12/06/2024 14:21

Yeah, right. That behaviour is NOT normal, I cannot believe your sister has the nerve to not insist on a sincere apology from your niece after that Christmas episode! There is no way I'd be hosting her, she needs to learn she cannot dole out that kind of attitude without repurcussions. If your sister is willing to put up with the abuse, more fool her - it means her daughter's behaviour will only get worse. There is no chance my parents would let me get away with comments like that even now in my 40s!

Beamur · 12/06/2024 14:21

I think Mum normalising such rude behaviour has a lot to answer for.
Just say you love your niece but are not loving her attitude right now. So if this is how she's going to be, you'll pass on hosting this year