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To be AMAZED at this cms calculation?

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whatnowws · 10/06/2024 13:40

Recently split from DS’s dad. He won’t communicate or see ds, so after several weeks I contacted cms. They are getting in touch with him but… the claim is for 730 a month?!? He earns almost 80k? How can this be right?

meanwhile, I’m earning 46k and paying 1,700 in nursery costs and all other costs for ds?

how on earth is that supposed to be fair?! This calculation is also assuming he continues not to see ds. If he wants him a night or more then costs reduce further… basically he can do what he wants and I’m expected to pick up the financial pieces no matter what.

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sixtyandsomething · 10/06/2024 13:41

sounds like a lot to me

whatnowws · 10/06/2024 13:42

@sixtyandsomething my bills or his measly ‘contribution’?!

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FawnFrenchieMum · 10/06/2024 13:42

I’m assuming you will also get help towards nursery fees as a single parent?

Gensola · 10/06/2024 13:42

That’s a huge sum of money?!

Ereyraa · 10/06/2024 13:42

Nursery costs aren’t part of the calculation, neither is what you earn.

whatnowws · 10/06/2024 13:43

Gensola · 10/06/2024 13:42

That’s a huge sum of money?!

@Gensola nursery is 1,700 so he’s not even paying half of that let alone any of DS’s other costs???

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AIfunguy · 10/06/2024 13:43

It is a an absolute joke and certainly not equal or fair, but be warned that you will get plenty of posters telling you how unreasonable you are!

whatnowws · 10/06/2024 13:43

Ereyraa · 10/06/2024 13:42

Nursery costs aren’t part of the calculation, neither is what you earn.

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@Ereyraa so that’s the woman’s job I suppose? Even though HE left!

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Babadook76 · 10/06/2024 13:44

That’s a fucking huge amount of cm compared to what most people get. You’re going to get torn apart on here from the thousands of people with self employed exes, who are getting the standard £7 cm a week because they can’t prove their earnings

whatnowws · 10/06/2024 13:44

AIfunguy · 10/06/2024 13:43

It is a an absolute joke and certainly not equal or fair, but be warned that you will get plenty of posters telling you how unreasonable you are!

@AIfunguy i honestly thought people would advise me on how to correct it!!! How can anyone think this is anything other than a joke? Are women all brainwashed these days? I honestly can’t believe he gets away with it

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QueenOfTheEntireFuckingUniverse · 10/06/2024 13:44

CMS rates are a joke! Can you claim and UC to help with the childcare?

Gensola · 10/06/2024 13:44

Sorry I meant your nursery bill 🙈 I was so shocked I hit reply too soon! It’s really unfair and he should pay half of it for sure

sixtyandsomething · 10/06/2024 13:45

whatnowws · 10/06/2024 13:42

@sixtyandsomething my bills or his measly ‘contribution’?!

both. Your income is MASSIVE. His contribution is HUGE. I think you are probably on 4x or 5x what I was - and what others I know are.

whatnowws · 10/06/2024 13:45

Babadook76 · 10/06/2024 13:44

That’s a fucking huge amount of cm compared to what most people get. You’re going to get torn apart on here from the thousands of people with self employed exes, who are getting the standard £7 cm a week because they can’t prove their earnings

@Babadook76 im saying DS’s dad is paying nowhere near half DS’s costs because he decided literally to walk away

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Ereyraa · 10/06/2024 13:45

whatnowws · 10/06/2024 13:43

@Ereyraa so that’s the woman’s job I suppose? Even though HE left!

Who left isn’t part of the calculation either.

TVD2103 · 10/06/2024 13:45

You do realise that just because he earns 80k a year doesn’t mean he will be bringing that home right? He will be paying A LOT of tax on that so yes your CMS sounds right.

whatnowws · 10/06/2024 13:46

QueenOfTheEntireFuckingUniverse · 10/06/2024 13:44

CMS rates are a joke! Can you claim and UC to help with the childcare?

@QueenOfTheEntireFuckingUniverse im not entitled to any support I have already checked online and called the number and spoke to an advisor. I honestly can’t believe he is allowed to do it.

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whatnowws · 10/06/2024 13:47

TVD2103 · 10/06/2024 13:45

You do realise that just because he earns 80k a year doesn’t mean he will be bringing that home right? He will be paying A LOT of tax on that so yes your CMS sounds right.

@TVD2103 ermmmmm

Ds’s is his son?

so you’re saying I pay more than half because his 80k won’t stretch, but my 44k will and should?

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PrincessTeaSet · 10/06/2024 13:47

The childcare isn't your child's cost. It's your cost because you want to work full time. 730 a month would be half the running costs of a household so it's not bad really. You could cut your hours and reduce nursery hours.

UnbelievableLie · 10/06/2024 13:48

Sorry OP I don't know anything about CMS but I'm very surprised by a PP saying nursery costs don't count. What the fuck are FT working mothers meant to do then?!

sixtyandsomething · 10/06/2024 13:48

whatnowws · 10/06/2024 13:45

@Babadook76 im saying DS’s dad is paying nowhere near half DS’s costs because he decided literally to walk away

he is paying "nowhere near half" when the standard is "nowhere near 1%" - that contribution is the biggest I have ever heard of.

whatnowws · 10/06/2024 13:48

PrincessTeaSet · 10/06/2024 13:47

The childcare isn't your child's cost. It's your cost because you want to work full time. 730 a month would be half the running costs of a household so it's not bad really. You could cut your hours and reduce nursery hours.

@PrincessTeaSet

he also wants to work?

im just not the scumbag who walked out on ds, but apparently i now also face a financial penalty for that?

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Ereyraa · 10/06/2024 13:48

Were you married? Is there any joint property to split?

TVD2103 · 10/06/2024 13:48

He will be paying more than you in tax. You also have to contribute to your child you know. You should count yourself lucky for getting that, most single parents on here posting about CMS get absolutely nothing.

sprigatito · 10/06/2024 13:48

CMS is the bare minimum he can get away with paying. A decent father would view it as a starting point, and should certainly be paying half of childcare costs as well as general living expenses. But the social expectations for fathers are so miserably low that you'll even get women telling you you're lucky he pays anything at all. It's depressing.

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