Men can get Ovarian Cancer !

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I mean WTAF? (Source Telegraph) Ovarian Cancer Action has actually stated this.Would be bad enough generally ,but I am undergoing Treatment for this ATM, and just think it sounds ludicrous .Have been in touch with them before now and they seemed quite helpful .Feel a bit affronted ! AIBU they can say what they think,YANBU They should stick to the facts and not upset people already ill?

What nonsense. Planned parenthood (which is in the US by the way) also say that doctors make a decision to assign you a sex at birth and that most people have a gender identity by the age of 2 or 3. Not going to believe anything else they say. Let alone the fact that intersex is an outdated term.

Exactly. That Planned Parenthood “information” should be filed right alongside the “Flat Earth Evidence” some spout….

Good luck I had a hysterectomy last year followed by 'mop up' chemo. Am now in remission.
got extremely exhausted towards the end of the chemo but no other side effects.....at the time! However whilst the chemo cured the cancer, it did also cause major problems with low platelets and severe anaemia, etc so just make sure you keep asking questions about your blood results during chemo and immediately afterwards.

This needs to be shouted from the rooftops. People are being seriously exploited.

Montelbano Thank you.This is good to know.I only know of one other lady is a similar position .Her treatment is ongoing ATM. I will certainly be making some noise!Re the platelets and Anaemia .I have a notebook re guarding any questions!Glad youre OK now xx

No, saying women with ovaries is the least confusing way.

Of course any normal woman would be offended by your suggested wording. Charities and health depts just need to say women....with.....ovaries.

It is THAT simple!

Yes, that would be a fair compromise.

We are not 'idiots', @hydriotaphia , of course as women we get genuinely offended at that! Why don't you understand that?!? The idiots are the dehumanising, misogynistic lowlife arseholes who say "people with ovaries".

Differences of Sexual Development is extremely rare@mindutopia . 0.7% of the population.

And, these people usually know very early on what they have and are educated and prepared by doctors from childhood. There is never any confusion with them because they like anyone with a condition, know all about it as they live it.

Transmen are WOMEN, @MrsSunshine2b .

"people with ovaries can get ovarian cancer." is the most controversial statement. ONLY WOMEN get ovarian cancer.

Saying women can get ovarian cancer is the less controversial, and most proper way.

As women, saying 'people with ovaries' is deeply dehumanising and offensive. If you can't see that, then I don't know what to tell you. OP is already going through cancer for something ONLY women can get, and she not even granted being recognised as a woman by these misogynistic organisations!

Exactly! And I think the previous poster who answered my question is right - they have women for pushovers.

Let’s hope a news paper picks this up…. The charity needs challenging on the language used!

Trans men can get ovarian cancer.

Yes but they’re not actually ‘men’

Then why is hermaphroditism listed in the ICD-10 (International classification of diseases) under Q56.0?

I'm sorry, but you can't just deny a scientific fact to suit your narrative.

Wrong. You are very misinformed, @FluentRubyDog . There is no such thing as a human Hermaphrodite. It exists in other species, but not in the human species. There has never, in human history, been a human hermaphrodite. It's not even physically possible. So where you got that rubbish from I don't know.

It's not listed in ICD-11, dated 2024.

Instead there is
"Ovotesticular disorder of sex development, formerly called true hermaphroditism, is a rare cause of genital ambiguity characterised by the presence of ovarian and testicular tissue in an individual, leading to development of both male and female structures."

This DSD is one of the rarest, with only 500 cases recorded. Out of a current human population of 81.1 billion.

Are you saying that a human exists that is able to inseminate themselves, and gestate a baby that is born and survives, and can be both the genetic mother and father to that child?

Is there a news story about this? Can you link it? Thanks in advance.

That's not 'scientific fact' there are no true human hermaphrodites.

I believe the term is used to describe an extremely rare condition whereby a male can have some female reproductive cells in his body, but that doesn't mean the man has ovaries and it doesn't make him a hermaphrodite.

Well this is embarrassing for you. Look up the newer version - the ICD-11 - and you'll see that it's been replaced with disorders of sexual development.

That's 500 cases recorded ever, just for clarity. So out of a much bigger population.

I suspect they are doing this because trans men or those with gender difference conditions are ignoring their symptoms/not seeking advice out of embarrassment, or are being overlooked or missed when they do. I would have thought sitting in a gynae cancer waiting room full of women is awful at the best of times, without it also being very confronting to your identity and potentially very outing for you as a trans man or male-identifying person. Even if this is addressing a small minority of patients, using language which encourages people to seek treatment and to discuss accommodations with their treating team is important in making sure that they access the care and treatment that they need.

Which section please? Hard to navigate the site on a phone.

LD2A.0

Here you go - sorry about the huge link
https://www.findacode.com/icd-11/code-989785304.html#:~:text=Ovotesticular%20disorder%20of%20sex%20development%2C%20formerly%20called%20true%20hermaphroditism%2C%20is,both%20male%20and%20female%20structures.

I would have thought sitting in a gynae cancer waiting room full of women is awful at the best of times, without it also being very confronting to your identity and potentially very outing for you as a trans man or male-identifying person.

The reality is however, that they are female. No coerced language or dancing around the topic changes that. It's of no relevance to Mother Nature that they are 'male identifying' (whatever that means) and ultimately reality needs to be faced.