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Scary how men just move on so quickly

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Gobsmackedtobehonest · 08/06/2024 23:03

My Dsis friend has been married for 10 years, together for 14 with him and they have a 6 year old son. Things tricky for a while with the wife feeling things weren’t going great, her Dh not as supportive and staying out later (but always stayed out due to job and very sociable person)
It’s come to light recently that he told her he’s met someone else, madly in love with her, brings out the best in him and so on. He’s moved out, moving in with her, set up a bedroom for the child to stay in when he visits. Basically left them with no money or cares about how they will cope with rent and so on, left dog, doesn’t seem bothered. Whole world they had together just..gone..just like that
This was a young, gorgeous couple, a really good team and madly in love with each other

It’s scary

OP posts:
CrispieCake · 09/06/2024 07:38

Men as a group are much more comfortable with abandoning their children and seeing their children go without because of their actions.

I think some men see the children as an extension of their mother, rather than individuals in their own right with the right to be supported by both parents. Once they're no longer in a relationship with the mother, they don't really think that their kids' welfare is their concern.

LuluBlakey1 · 09/06/2024 07:44

Gobsmackedtobehonest · 08/06/2024 23:23

I just don’t know, how you’d just fall straight out of love with someone and leave your whole life, especially when kids are involved

He wasn't as 'madly in love' any more- he was just going along with it. The spark and excitement had gone and he wanted that back. The same thing is likely to happen with the new woman and he will have to learn that every day is not a day only filled with romance, passion, excitement and sex, and that life gets in the way- jobs, houses, children, money etc- or he'll walk away with someone else.

MyKidsAreTooNoisy · 09/06/2024 07:44

I think there are plenty of women who move on very quickly, some having children with multiple men they have only just met…

KitKatChunki · 09/06/2024 07:57

MonsteraMama · 08/06/2024 23:37

Sorry but in what universe outside of teen romance novels are women sitting around thinking about their significant other all day? Since when has that been par for the course? I mean I love my husband but I've got other shit to do. If that's the benchmark for "feeling deeply" in a relationship then I guess I'm fucked 😂

Yeah it wasn't quite as moony as that and I can't remember the exact phrases used on the thread but along the lines of being interested enough in them to think of them during daily activities and consider them in decisions. I've certainly seen men who act as if they are just randomly living in the same house as a bunch of other people rather than actively working as a team with their family. Some men know very little about their partners and children and seem to not really understand why they should be more aware of each person's interests or needs. It isn't a stretch to say men are on the whole more selfish as a gender than women - it's not a new idea that they'll think of themselves and put their needs first.

Brumhilda · 09/06/2024 07:59

I dunno, I used to work with a woman that said “the best way to get over your last boyfriend is to get under the next one”

lol… she had a point I think.

StrawberriesandMango · 09/06/2024 08:03

Same happened to me op

Partner and Husband of 18 years, 3 young children. I thought we were happy and things were going well, a good team, talked to each other about everything, together everyday. Me on Maternity leave and things at home all good.

New girl starts in Husbands work who he must have felt incredibly attracted to although she's married. He then changed his whole personality, out late, going to gym, got a nose job, couldn't stand to even look at me, stopped caring. Not even sure if they got physical but they were sending flirty texts to each other which is what I found and was enough for me.

In less than a year our 18 year relationship fell apart and I asked him to leave over it all. Not even a sorry or remorse or even admitting what he done. Instead I got the blame for apparently not showing him much love.

CrispieCake · 09/06/2024 08:08

Brumhilda · 09/06/2024 07:59

I dunno, I used to work with a woman that said “the best way to get over your last boyfriend is to get under the next one”

lol… she had a point I think.

And that's all very well if there's no children involved.

Validus · 09/06/2024 08:18

Marriage as an institution is no longer valued.
so it’s easy for either side to move on.

SeriaMau · 09/06/2024 08:21

Men are such vile creatures.

C1N1C · 09/06/2024 08:23

I think both sexes are at fault, they actually make it harder to love them.

Men these days don't have the work ethic, the masculinity, authority, which is actually being weaned out of them. Plus, they're well aware that divorce is often instigated by the woman, can happen so easily, and that they'll lose half or more. Of course their willingness to trust, bond, and marry is going to be greatly diminished.

And the women are less forgiving, less 'traditional' (which many men do still go for!), less classically feminine, and with the advent of OLD and thousands of men messaging them daily, actually have this air of "I don't need you, I have backups".

If the bond (emotional and psychological) is weaker, it's way easier to move on.

KitKatChunki · 09/06/2024 08:26

C1N1C · 09/06/2024 08:23

I think both sexes are at fault, they actually make it harder to love them.

Men these days don't have the work ethic, the masculinity, authority, which is actually being weaned out of them. Plus, they're well aware that divorce is often instigated by the woman, can happen so easily, and that they'll lose half or more. Of course their willingness to trust, bond, and marry is going to be greatly diminished.

And the women are less forgiving, less 'traditional' (which many men do still go for!), less classically feminine, and with the advent of OLD and thousands of men messaging them daily, actually have this air of "I don't need you, I have backups".

If the bond (emotional and psychological) is weaker, it's way easier to move on.

I agree in part. I think it is quite naive of people when in good health not to imagine how their life may look in 10 or 30 years. Maybe that's why I can't seem to attach unless I feel a "deep" bond - not that I seem to be very good at finding it in others!

I am quite worried at times about being alone in my 60's+. People are more independent but loneliness is as bad for your health as smoking 20 fags a day.

Pigeonqueen · 09/06/2024 08:27

I have had this happen to me. Moved from London to Norfolk with then dh and dd aged 5. Whole new life, sold and purchased new house, transferred jobs etc. A year later he upped and left without warning for an ex he’d found on Facebook- when he had been going to visit his Mum in London (whilst I was at work) he’d been meeting up with her 😳 Dd and I never heard from him again! (That was 16 years ago now, I’m now happily remarried).

I think a lot of men don’t see women as anything more than an attractive appliance. If it stops working the way they want it to they just get a new one. Seen it happen many, many times particularly when the woman becomes older or unwell.

Jonisaysitbest · 09/06/2024 08:35

Some people are just very good at compartmentalising their feelings which obviously helps when moving on.
And Dating Apps have definitely changed the landscape when it comes to having an affair or finding a new partner quickly. And there are so many of them now.

zendeveloper · 09/06/2024 09:11

CountryMumof4 · 08/06/2024 23:23

I agree - although it's not just limited to men really. I have a male pal though that's been seeing someone for a year, engaged etc.. he's spent the last two weeks crying because he feels she's not as loving as normal, but he's head over heels in love and will never love again if it doesn't work out.... Last night he messaged saying he's not too fussed as he's met someone else, so he's dumping her. Very bizarre.

I think it is mostly men though, at least in my experience. I have not met many women who have just closed the door on their old family, remembering them only around Christmases and birthdays, but I know plenty of men like that. And weirdly, they are still seen as good chaps (well... who's perfect), but a woman in exactly similar situation would be seen as devil incarnate.

User135644 · 09/06/2024 09:18

KitKatChunki · 08/06/2024 23:26

There was a thread on here last week or so where men basically agreed they don't feel as deeply in relationships as women. They couldn't imagine thinking about the other person all day and various other things women do par for the course.

I can well believe it. At the start they seem starry eyed and besotted but we've all seen that fade over the months and the apathy set in. I've maybe been unlucky in love but generally men look at most women with some interest, no matter how taken they are.

Men are more sex focused. They do feel love intensely but when the sex dries up they check out.

User135644 · 09/06/2024 09:21

Seedsnnut · 09/06/2024 00:07

It's because women have hearts and men have a penis OP.

It’s not as simple as that though as women definitely do it too. The one critical difference is women tend not to leave any children behind which is definitely better in some ways as they’re not just abandoning their children but in other ways it’s not - forcing their kid to live around whichever unrelated male they’re shacked up with, doesn’t always work out great either.

I had an old classmate who was a serial dater, she was always “deeply in love” then suddenly she’d test the water with a new guy, break up with her current guy and move on seamlessly, she did this in her late teens/early 20s . When she got engaged then married and had a kid around age 30 we all thought that was it. She was even posting her anniversary picture and then a couple of years later I happened to stumble upon her social media again. She had apparently remarried some guy from abroad and had another child with him. I calculated that she must have fallen pregnant with this child shortly after her anniversary celebrations pics. Now she had erased her ex from her social media and it was all about this new guy. No idea what she’s doing now but I wouldn’t be surprised if shes with yet another man. She just can’t be single or even in a casual relationship.

Edited

Men or women who have personality disorders or certain character flaws, will invariably struggle to ever sustain a relationship/marriage and their feelings can quickly change.

SpringerFall · 09/06/2024 09:22

Some seem to move on quickly but I am not sure what is better that or drawing it out into a massive saga where for months and months if not years it drags on

Menomeno · 09/06/2024 09:22

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 08/06/2024 23:19

Sadly men and women are like that these days. Marriages are not they were years ago

When my Nan was a little girl her Dad walked out on her mother and siblings and set up home with a widow and her children round the corner, and went on to have more children with her. He never spoke to my Nan and her sisters ever again, even when they saw him in the street. This was almost 100 years ago!

Wheredidileavemycarkeys · 09/06/2024 09:23

And the women are less forgiving, less 'traditional' (which many men do still go for!), less classically feminine, and with the advent of OLD and thousands of men messaging them daily, actually have this air of "I don't need you, I have backups"

There are still plenty of women who let men take the piss and remain in bad relationships for the sake of being in one. You only have to read the threads on here to see that. Not sure it’s a good thing though.

Comedycook · 09/06/2024 09:25

I'm absolutely convinced that vast majority of men don't really love their wives...they may care about them and feel 'in love ' based on what she brings to his life but that deep down devotion that women often feel to their partners is far less common in men. I remember at DC's school, a mum I knew husband died. She was utterly devastated. She remains devoted to her kids and has zero interest in finding a new man. Meanwhile one of the school mums died, the dad shacked up with a fellow school mum within a few months.

User135644 · 09/06/2024 09:26

C1N1C · 09/06/2024 08:23

I think both sexes are at fault, they actually make it harder to love them.

Men these days don't have the work ethic, the masculinity, authority, which is actually being weaned out of them. Plus, they're well aware that divorce is often instigated by the woman, can happen so easily, and that they'll lose half or more. Of course their willingness to trust, bond, and marry is going to be greatly diminished.

And the women are less forgiving, less 'traditional' (which many men do still go for!), less classically feminine, and with the advent of OLD and thousands of men messaging them daily, actually have this air of "I don't need you, I have backups".

If the bond (emotional and psychological) is weaker, it's way easier to move on.

Far more women initiate the divorce than men do and at least as many women cheat as men do.

It'll be with good reason a lot of the time that they file for divorce, but the man simply walking away is a bit of a cliche.

Pigeonqueen · 09/06/2024 09:29

User135644 · 09/06/2024 09:18

Men are more sex focused. They do feel love intensely but when the sex dries up they check out.

I think this is very true. Women need to feel loved to want sex, men need sex to feel loved. (And yes there are always exceptions blah blah).

fiddlesticksohyeah · 09/06/2024 09:30

PinkLadyLove · 09/06/2024 00:15

The common denominator in these stories seem to be the man moving into a woman's house. I think that's what makes it so easy for them. If they had to go it alone, it wouldn't happen. Why do women open their homes to these men anyway. I'd personally never let a man move in to my home, I'd automatically assume he's a wuss and a loser if he even suggested it. Which most of these men are I suppose.

Bang on the money.

So many women offer a man somewhere to stay temporarily and that's what cements the relationship.

They don't love you, it's the accommodation and benefits that come with it!

User135644 · 09/06/2024 09:32

Comedycook · 09/06/2024 09:25

I'm absolutely convinced that vast majority of men don't really love their wives...they may care about them and feel 'in love ' based on what she brings to his life but that deep down devotion that women often feel to their partners is far less common in men. I remember at DC's school, a mum I knew husband died. She was utterly devastated. She remains devoted to her kids and has zero interest in finding a new man. Meanwhile one of the school mums died, the dad shacked up with a fellow school mum within a few months.

Yet most divorces are initiated by the wives.

Comedycook · 09/06/2024 09:34

User135644 · 09/06/2024 09:32

Yet most divorces are initiated by the wives.

Maybe because they work it out.

I honestly think men aren't that bothered about who they're with. As long as she looks ok, doesn't moan too much and is nice enough, she'll do. Men don't actually meet a woman, fall in love and decide to get married. They decide to get married, then meet a woman. She could be anyone.