Reform😱

[ForKeenDeer]

Gaining popularity by the minute. Scary times

Why do you - and other people think The Far Right is on the rise in Europe?

It appears to be in the UK too. People seem to be shocked by this, because soooo many people online/on social media etc present as left-wing/ woke/ liberal.

At the moment, it's looking like Reform could be in with a chance of a lot of votes. Winning? Probably not. But they will give the other parties a run for their money!

Well when regular parties pretend that they cannot see any issues with the status quo, you can expect people to want to vote for someone who's more honest about the state of things.

I blame mainstream politics all over Europe for this.

It was bank rolled by Aaron Banks who made millions by betting on the £ collapsing after the vote. It was mainly pushed to make very wealthy people more wealthy. All the lies. All the manipulation. All the false promises and all to make some money for already very wealthy people.

Spot on!

It takes a special type of idiot to vote for the people who brought us Brexit, impoverished the country, and increased illegal immigration, but who are now touting themselves as the solution to the problems they created.

That's awful. Let's hope they exclude him from standing, like Labour did with Diane Abbott.

You're right. Much better to vote for another 5 years of the same shite but under a different colour rosette.

It’s not even a political party, it’s a registered company.

Good luck to the people of Clapton if they vote for Farage. They’ll have more chance of seeing him in a BBC studio than in a constituency surgery.

Do they really think an ex Dulwich college boy, and banker who lives for the limelight will spend even 7 hours a week in a very deprived area listening to locals asking for his help?

The Tories are not far right. If anything they have been trying to please everyone after Cameron and Osborne and Brexit. Boris should have not been ousted that was what brought the worst at the hands of Liz Truss. The conservatives have failed and Labour would failed too. Farage would be the one to benefit from all of this.

It’s Reform/Brexit Party/UKIP or whatever Farage and his shady backers are calling their company this week, who’ve poisoned our politics and ruined our country financially. The main parties appear to all be in thrall to a mystical Redwall type who love Farage.

The rest of us sit and watch open mouthed as more and more bullshit gets spouted and created to appease these people. They caused the UK to become the only country in history to impose economic sanctions on itself. We will be left destitute by the time this is over and people wake up to their senses.

Farage and his backers are softening us up for being well and truly fucked by American libertarian organisations. We’ll be so poor we won’t be in a position to negotiate and have to take whatever we’re given like a developing country. Farage just wants to line his own pocket, he’s not a patriot he’s a traitor. Look how he planned to focus on reelecting Trump up until last week. Why would he do that, and why has this been forgotten?

@Whenwillitgetwarm ok.

Total bullshit.

WTAF? 😆

@AutumnLeaves5 · Today 18:06

Part of the problem is that anyone who tries to discuss immigration, especially when saying it’s not working and supports a reduction of immigration numbers, is called a racist, a bigot or far right. This will just push people towards parties like reform.

We need to be able to debate immigration - ultimately there is a level of immigration that we cannot as a country currently afford. Equally we need a level of migration for a strong economy. We need to stop illegal immigration and the boats but have a quick and fair asylum process.

How we fix it I don’t know. But it’s through open discussion, debate and disagreement that we’ll come up with solutions rather than name calling and creating echo chambers of opinion.

100% this! ^

They are gaining support because the more credible parties aren't properly addressing immigration which is a big issue in the UK. We have unmanageable levels and areas which see the highest numbers of immigration have fractured communities and mkre social tension. It doesn't look like there's an easy answer but it is a concern which is why people are turning to the only party talking about it.

This kind of bullshit is why we got brexit.

It doesn't make you superior.

Presumably the same silly cunts that bought in to Brexit will buy into their propaganda.

@AutumnLeaves5 I agree.

loce him or loathe him Nigel Farage is one of the most successful politicians in history (Brexit!). I’m not surprised people will now be voting reform.

Indeed. People saying that reform won't win seats are missing the influence of several million people voting for them, particularly for the future direction of Conservative policy.

For the first time ever, I'm not voting Conservative and I'm going to vote Reform. No, I'm not uneducated (I'm a grad from a prestigious uni with a respected professional qualification) but I'm sick to death of both of the main parties. Labour will romp home with a victory but it's still a vote for change.

nailed it, but MN won't care.

@AutumnLeaves5

I've never thought farage wants to stop all immigrants at all. Unfortunately because of the nature of the discussion, racists will attach themselves and then some people use that to force open the door... They are all racists.

A little like the tricky Palestine - Israel issues on the far left when rabbi across the UK wrote to beg people, please don't vote for corybn.
How scary was that.

I can't understand what's so hard to grasp about numbers.
We can literally only cope with financially and absorb a certain volume of people each year.

yep, absolutely this

@blue345

I can't bring myself to vote for reform but I'm interested to hear their views on the women's rights v trans rights issue

@pinkzebra02 · Today 23:15

They are gaining support because the more credible parties aren't properly addressing immigration which is a big issue in the UK. We have unmanageable levels and areas which see the highest numbers of immigration have fractured communities and make social tension. It doesn't look like there's an easy answer but it is a concern which is why people are turning to the only party talking about it.

100% this. ^ None of the parties have done ANYthing about immigration issues. Even leaving the EU doesn't seem to have stopped it/stopped the boats etc. And the Tories - who I thought would have been the one party who would slow it down/stop it, have done fuck-all to stop the boats.

They mean different things.

Populism is "a political approach that strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups."

Corbyn was a populist. He definitely wasn't far right.