AGAIN! Something must be done

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Yes I know, another XL bulky thread. But seriously, this breed is like a mine field, randomly killing owners all over. You never know when/where it will happen next.

I truly can't wrap my head around people like this woman - may she rest in peace - who are all over the internet defending these KILLERS. They all think theirs is different, theirs would never kill, theirs is a big softy.

Is it time to do something more serious? The legislation brought in doesn't seem to have stopped deaths, although at least it does appear to be the owners (who are stupid enough to keep them) who are dying now instead of innocent members of the public.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/xl-bully-owner-celebrating-birthday-mauled-death-videos-defending-breed/

I would never have said that on here, but I 100% agree @ginasevern

Agreed. Similarly I don't give a fuck if the owners get themselves killed, it's when children or other unsuspecting people nearby get killed that's it's really upsetting.

Nobody needs to own a dog unless it's a working dog. The public obviously can't be trusted to act responsibly now as behaviour and intelligence has markedly declined over the years. I think people should be restricted as to what breeds and size animals are allowed to be kept by the simple folks out on the streets who can't even be bothered to train their pets, or even raise their children properly if recent reports of the out of control violence in schools is anything to go by.

Restrict everyone to tiny mutts who can only inflict sore ankles on people.

Anyone who objects should then have to explain why cat owners are prevented from keeping mountain lions or tigers as pets and no, it's not because they don't sell large enough litter trays.

The dog's body language appears to be one of confusion and reluctance in that dancing video!🙈 I felt afraid watching but she seemed completely oblivious to it. She was just a young lass, and likely had the overconfidence of youth poor girl.

Perhaps the dog had been purchased from a previous owner who cropped it's ears and made it fight. People do not give full histories when selling these animals. Second hand sellers/home breeders are often irresponsible and I'd like legislation that holds such breeders and sellers responsible if a dog they sold later kills someone. That will put a chill on people breeding dangerous breeds in their flats and back gardens.

Also breeding licences.

They should all be PTS, to protect humans from themselves as much as the general public.

I don't like dogs, as I got bitten by my neighbours Rottweiler when I was 9, so I am 100% not a dog person. The psychology of the owners is fascinating to me. I can understand why someone might want a lab or a labradoodle because they are objectively quite cute but an XL Bully is not only dangerous but they incredibly ugly too.

As a pp said it's got to be either a status thing of displaying your (often not wealthy) wealth, misguided notions that the dog will protect you or your DC or you want to intimidate people generally. All of which points to some kind of defective critical thinking skills. The woman killed describing the dog as her son? Bonkers, there is something not quite right going on here with the people who want to live with these dogs. Either socially, cognitively, emotionally and/or psychologically.

Natural selection at play.

It's not the bweeeed, it's the deeeed😂😂

Absolute bloody pond life if you believe this and deserve all the maulings you get!

I'm a multi dog owner, small and large. It would impact good owners of lovely dogs but councils should impose strict rules on dog ownership (I. E. Social housing no pets) as let's face it, that would cover most of the incidences, and perhaps more broadly a very expensive licence for dogs over a certain weight/size for all residents. Maybe £1k a year. Nice little earner for the councils too.

It'd harsh to penalise good owners in order to get rid of these bastard things but I can't honestly see how the problem of thick twats owning nasty dogs is going away with the current rules.

Absolutely agree.
The so much talk of bad owners is basically the propaganda of the pit bull lobby or in this case the XL bully lobby.
Nothing can be allowed to get in the way of the unscrupulous making money.

I was saying they're not bad dogs they just have an extreme hunting instinct, like my cat. He tore up my arms and legs when he was little

Really? REALLY?? Unless "your cat" is a tiger or a lion its vicious attack is going to leave you scratched and bitten, but not dead or permanently disfigured.

They are not "big softies". They are mutant chavbeasts which should be culled. No justification whatsoever for these animals in a civilised society. Cannot believe there are still numpties out there defending people's rights to own this sort of uncontrollable, vicious animal.

Normally I wouldn't jump on a breed prejudice bandwagon but it's clear that XL bullies have been bred specifically with the tendency to random aggression because it goes along with the huge sizes. They are far too inbred and the random aggression is very much known about in the states where this breed originated.

I lose no sleep over an idiot who is stupid enough to own one of these things and it kills them. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

But these idiots do not live in isolation, do they? They have family members, neighbours, children, people coming into their houses to fix the boiler or whatever. People who are stupid enough to have a dog like this are not the sort of people who will ensure their animal is trained, muzzled, housed securely. So these animals DO pose a risk to people in general not just their owners. Which is why they really should all be culled.

When they were banned I didn't think there should be a cull but recently I've been thinking it's probably best. The video makes me despair for humanity a bit though!

I don't think they should be legal to own

As long as these dogs are only killing the owners - what's the problem?

Totally agree. Let stupid people be eaten by their stupid big dogs.

I've seen that the propensity to over sentimentalise everything now has increased to the point where people can't seem to think critically anymore. They can't discipline their children, can't train their dogs. Why? Because they tell themselves that it's cruel to do so? Do they lack confidence? Over identify with these thick, ugly creatures? Perhaps they have low self esteem and literally see the creatures as the archetypal underdog whom nobody loves. Perhaps this is how they feel about themselves.

Some people need to be kept under control and told in no uncertain terms what to do/what not to do and there's no one around to do that anymore. Too many adult adolescents around now. Governed by hysterical emotions and no brakes on their behaviour. Like their dogs.

Whatever the reason, politicians need to get their heads around the fact that there are people living freely who are too basic to even look after a hamster, let alone an out of control dangerous animal.

@ginasevern ye me too

Yep. Hard to feel any sympathy for them. It was only a matter of time before that dog attacked a member of family/public.

Yeah on a comment section about this poor woman's death people were referring to XL bullys' as nanny dogs.

Safe as houses around kids apparently. Used by the Victorians to guard the nurseries and keep the kiddos amused. I don't know where this idea comes from but it persists. I think people really believe it.

There’s a few grown adults been killed.I will never forget the video of Ian Price when he was killed by two XL’s.

I just think it can be both - bad dog owners have created a monstrous and dangerous 'breed'.

I'm not saying XL bullies are safe for good owners. They're not. They're dangerous because they're inbred and overbred into walking genetic mutations.

But that didn't just happen. Bad dog owners bred their dogs for status and profit and then sold them to more bad owners and so on and so on. Bad owners are entirely responsible for the shitshow that is now the XL bully.

It's not as simple as "ban them" or as "deed not breed". Yeah sure let's ban them, because they're a fucking liability now, but what do we then do to prevent the next dangerously overbred dogs from being the XL bullies of 2030? How do we change the culture of dog breeding and dog ownership so it doesn't keep happening?

Doesn't surprise me, there's a few by me who aren't muzzled. Owners are normal every day people and seem offended when I cross the road when I see them heading my direction.

Yes it's the owners fault, but they are dangerous and should be put down.

Ear/tail docking isn’t always shit ownership though.

A local site rep is currently dealing with one of their plot holders thinking they can bring their XL onto the gated site and once inside their unmuzzle and off lead the dog as then it won’t be “public”