AGAIN! Something must be done

[Singersong]

Yes I know, another XL bulky thread. But seriously, this breed is like a mine field, randomly killing owners all over. You never know when/where it will happen next.

I truly can't wrap my head around people like this woman - may she rest in peace - who are all over the internet defending these KILLERS. They all think theirs is different, theirs would never kill, theirs is a big softy.

Is it time to do something more serious? The legislation brought in doesn't seem to have stopped deaths, although at least it does appear to be the owners (who are stupid enough to keep them) who are dying now instead of innocent members of the public.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/xl-bully-owner-celebrating-birthday-mauled-death-videos-defending-breed/

Of course they are animals who act according to their nature, but the fact is this particular breed are no more suited to be a family pet than, say, a wolf or tiger.

Personally I'd like all Bull breeds banned.

I don't see this as the dog's fault. However they are bred for specific traits (just like all other dogs) and their breed traits happen to be awful.

I know this is in Ireland, but I do think the existing legislation should be more strictly enforced in the UK. You still see people not complying with the law. These dogs shouldn't be allowed out without a muzzle with instant removal for non-compliance. Perhaps a dangerous animal licence too? And a complete crackdown for those who have not registered their dogs - again, instant removal as it shows the owner is not responsible enough for such a dangerous animal.

This sounds completely callous but at least it wasn't a stranger or child that was killed this time. It was an adult who had taken the conscious decision to own this dog, knowing the risks.

That’s what she’s saying. They are animals, so act on instinct. They don’t kill people because of some evil masterplan

It certainly shows - surely you can't be serious?

I think people don't understand the risks, because there has been so much talk of bad owners causing dogs to be aggressive, but as I understand it, with this particular breed, they are so inbred and have been deliberately selected to be extremely aggressive, the way they are treated doesn't have any bearing on whether they might flip and start killing people. The owners presumably don't realise this, or can't believe it.

And no, it's not the fault of the dog. Not much consolation when someone has been killed, though, is it? The point is being missed when people say 'it's not the dog's fault'

Its always deed not breed. Usually true but not with these dogs. People are thick.

That's not good if they're all inbred is it, that makes sense

You misunderstood. Nobody's saying the dog has a masterplan. They are saying a dog with such physical power and a much more pronounced killer instinct than most other dogs with a proven track record should be culled.

She started by equating it to her cat playing rough with her... so she clearly doesn't understand the issue or what an XL Bully is.

The thing is, with a (domestic) cat, if it tried to rip your throat out, you'd be able to easily defend yourself against it, and kick it to death if necessary.
With XL bullies, the reports of the attacks often say that the dogs needed to be tazered and shot by police marksman several times before they let go of the victim. The breed fights to the death. The rules are not the same as for other dogs

It's not bad owners, it's genetic. They're not reasonably losing their temper at being mistreated.

My mum was having her hallway decorated last week and the plasterer went home to the house he shared with his mate and his bully breed dog. He'd lived with the dog for about 4 years. That night the dog shoved the bedroom door open and attacked him in bed. He only survived because he was a large man with thick forearms. He was absolutely ripped to shreds.

The dog's owner ran in, they managed to chuck it into the back garden and it was shot by police.

I think they should be euthanised.

@iamreallyabee do some googling if you really have come into this conversation blind

This. That video has me wincing - it does speak to the people who own this type of dog.

Something more than what has currently been done re licences needs to be done for this breed. It's been found that a large majority of XL bullies in the UK are descendents of Killer Kimbo and his line. Some have multiple descendents of killer Kimbo in their lines. https://bullywatch.link/2023/08/01/finding-kimbo/

The dogs are morons owned by morons. You have to question the sanity of anyone who’d think having one was a good idea

And the dog really didn't look happy in the video... what she was calling 'dancing' could be conceived as quite forceful and dominant... And as she was attacked as she came in 'from a night out', it's possible she was impaired and misreading the dog's body language - and vice versa.

One less Bully on the streets and one less room temperature IQ idiot to defend the breed. Better her than some random child or passerby who didn't choose to endanger their own lives by owning a dangerous animal.

Actually the quote about them not being bad dogs is correct. This is what makes them so dangerous. This is why a beloved family dog can go from enjoying a cuddle with their owner to biting their throat out with no provocation. They probably won't attack, but why take the risk. If you piss of a Chihuahua you get a sore ankle, piss off a Labrador you get a scar, piss off an XL Bully and you are dead. Even a dog like a Turkish Kangal, which is bigger, faster, and with a greater bite force will still have the restraint to stop. Their sudden rage genetic trait and sheer power makes them, unfortunately, the excellent fighting dog they were designed to be. I wish XL Bully owners could sit and talk to the people that I talk to, who have been injured or seen their child killed by their beloved family pet. I also wish they would or could check the ancestry of their dog, as I'll put money on Killer Kimbo appearing at least once in the dog's ancestry.
Unfortunately with XL Bullies, or if we call them what they are, XL Pitbulls, it's isn't nurture, it's nature.

We have had (still have 1) ddog off the Dangerous Dog list... In the decade of each one being with us nobody has ever been mean or cross or abusive to them. Neither one has shown any mega negative behaviour towards us.. Information on ddogs and holding a grudge /resentment is very interesting reading.. Those ddogs that have been mutilated could have been unsubconsciously 'trained' to hate humans.. I would like to see stats for xl bullies who are not butchered and have had the same family from a very early age and been properly socialised..

If they were wild animals coming into urban areas and mauling people to death they'd be eradicated. The breed needs eliminating, the proof is there to how they've been bred.

The people who are breeding these dogs are the ones who cut the tails and the ears.
It it must be linked as these breeders are selectively breeding for strength and aggression.

So i wouldnt argue cause, but I would definitely argue correlation

See, people just don't listen.

This isnt an upbringing issue. Ffs, it's like banging your head off a wall.

The people who breed these dogs will just move on to another breed and ruin them too.
It is the dodgy breeders that really need stopping

I live on a large council estate classed as a deprived area. If you think the dogs should be euthanised, I suggest we start with the fucking owners. Drugged up fuckwits and chavs of the highest order. Living on benefits and proud of the £1,000 quid they paid for the dog. They aren't fit to be looking after themselves let alone anything else.

ANOTHER one?! OMG. Poor girl.

YANBU @Singersong they all need to be put to sleep, and no more bred - ever. Killing grown up humans now! WTAF?