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To sleep with a 23 year old?

672 replies

Possomoppossum · 05/06/2024 18:46

Given that I am 42,he knows full well how old I am,we met on a dating site where he wanted to meet older women.ok or creepy age gap?

OP posts:
LoveLifeBeHappy · 09/06/2024 10:26

yumyumyumy · 09/06/2024 09:49

Percy looks like he's out with his grandma though.

That bothers you because?

Gouki · 09/06/2024 11:41

westisbest1982 · 09/06/2024 09:38

Unless you’re a mind reader, which I doubt, your comment is bloody stupid.

I find your reading comprehension bloody stupid, as I prefaced with 'probably'; which can be easily substantiated by any opinion poll that would definitely show that the general public would not approve of a 42 year old man with a 23 year old woman.

How about you reply to the subject, rather than policing other's opinions?

Palacelife · 09/06/2024 11:53

westisbest1982 · 09/06/2024 09:31

what do you think he's going to tell his mates?

Maybe she doesn’t give the shiniest of shits as long as she enjoys the sex? Personally I wouldn’t care less having done similar in the past.

You can over think things I guess

it’s just not something that sits right with a lot of people.

Katie price springs to mind, someone clinging on to their twenties in the most crass way.

westisbest1982 · 09/06/2024 12:02

Gouki · 09/06/2024 11:41

I find your reading comprehension bloody stupid, as I prefaced with 'probably'; which can be easily substantiated by any opinion poll that would definitely show that the general public would not approve of a 42 year old man with a 23 year old woman.

How about you reply to the subject, rather than policing other's opinions?

There’s no such opinion polls, so your argument is ludicrous.

S0livagant · 09/06/2024 12:36

LoveLifeBeHappy · 09/06/2024 10:16

The point is, a consenting adult doesn't need our approval. As I mentioned, our opinions don't ultimately matter.

I disagree, as do many on this thread. I think it's the responsibility for older adults to look out for young adults. Most people would think a 17 year old in a sexual relationship with an older adult wasn't ok, but it suddenly is when they are 18? Legally, of course there need be a line somewhere between childhood and adulthood, but they don't magically undergo metamorphosis on their 18th birthday.

LoveLifeBeHappy · 09/06/2024 13:38

S0livagant · 09/06/2024 12:36

I disagree, as do many on this thread. I think it's the responsibility for older adults to look out for young adults. Most people would think a 17 year old in a sexual relationship with an older adult wasn't ok, but it suddenly is when they are 18? Legally, of course there need be a line somewhere between childhood and adulthood, but they don't magically undergo metamorphosis on their 18th birthday.

In this case, we're discussing a 23-year-old. They are certainly at an age where they don't want adults dictating their actions. They're mature enough to make their own decisions. If they make mistakes, they'll learn from them, just like everyone else who was once young.

While I agree that turning 18 doesn't suddenly transform you, it does mark the beginning of adulthood. Most 18-year-olds I knew at my university halls were shagging every night and bringing all sorts of people back.

Durdledore · 09/06/2024 13:45

@S0livagant, I totally agree that 18 is not yet mature even though legally an adult and I agree that I wouldn’t want a young woman of 23 being involved with a man in his 40s (I’ve already said upthread ages ago that it’s different due to the patriarchy, sexism etc).

But what harm is the OP potentially causing the 23 year old that you feel she should be responsibly protecting him from?

S0livagant · 09/06/2024 13:54

Durdledore · 09/06/2024 13:45

@S0livagant, I totally agree that 18 is not yet mature even though legally an adult and I agree that I wouldn’t want a young woman of 23 being involved with a man in his 40s (I’ve already said upthread ages ago that it’s different due to the patriarchy, sexism etc).

But what harm is the OP potentially causing the 23 year old that you feel she should be responsibly protecting him from?

My friend was involved with older men as a young adult and though she consented, she did realise as she got older that she had been taken advantage of, that there had been a significant power imbalance. It was only when she looked at young adults as a woman in her thirties that it was obvious. She was a vulnerable young adult and now wishes it had never happened.

S0livagant · 09/06/2024 13:55

Another friend was involved with a much older sports instructor when she was 18 after CSA.

BernardBlacksBreakfastWine · 09/06/2024 14:13

Gouki · 09/06/2024 12:59

This took me THIRTY SECONDS to find. Just think about if I spent five minutes on the hunt.

https://yougov.co.uk/society/articles/2066-mind-age-gap#:~:text=According%20to%20our%20poll%2C%20just%2015%25%20of%20women%20think%20it%E2%80%99s%20acceptable%20to%20date%20someone%2020%20years%20older%20than%20them

You seem to be a person who states an opinion as fact. Please remember from now on, I'm not someone who will let comments such as yours above, slide.

Have a great Sunday.

Not sure why you’ve gone so ballistic over this. I think your original comment was:

I say go for it, but remember, if it was the other way around you'd probably find it ick.

You’re now arguing that that’s a perfectly reasonable thing to say because of some poll results? But when extrapolating from these stats, you’re ignoring the fact that OP is seriously considering a sexual relationship with someone considerably younger, so presumably doesn’t feel this ‘ick’ you so articulately described! Therefore your stats have limited application here.

Durdledore · 09/06/2024 14:25

@S0livagant I totally and wholeheartedly agree with you with regards to young women and older men. Completely. It doesn’t work the other way around though, because of the patriarchy and sexism - the way our society is structured around male power and entitlement.

xxSideshowAuntSallyxx · 09/06/2024 14:31

yumyumyumy · 09/06/2024 09:49

Percy looks like he's out with his grandma though.

But it obviously doesn't bother him (22 years married after all) so why should it bother you?

I also hope I look like Joan at 91!

Gouki · 09/06/2024 14:32

BernardBlacksBreakfastWine · 09/06/2024 14:13

Not sure why you’ve gone so ballistic over this. I think your original comment was:

I say go for it, but remember, if it was the other way around you'd probably find it ick.

You’re now arguing that that’s a perfectly reasonable thing to say because of some poll results? But when extrapolating from these stats, you’re ignoring the fact that OP is seriously considering a sexual relationship with someone considerably younger, so presumably doesn’t feel this ‘ick’ you so articulately described! Therefore your stats have limited application here.

westisbest1982 disputed my comment out of the blue. I backed up the part of my comment they chose to argue with, with actual evidence. Insinuating I'm 'going balliistic' because I respond intellectually, defending against their insults, just makes me think you're the same person using a sock account.

westisbest1982 questioned it, and I responded to them. If you are actually a different person to them, you obviously didnt read the conversation hence you have no context.

BernardBlacksBreakfastWine · 09/06/2024 15:25

Gouki · 09/06/2024 14:32

westisbest1982 disputed my comment out of the blue. I backed up the part of my comment they chose to argue with, with actual evidence. Insinuating I'm 'going balliistic' because I respond intellectually, defending against their insults, just makes me think you're the same person using a sock account.

westisbest1982 questioned it, and I responded to them. If you are actually a different person to them, you obviously didnt read the conversation hence you have no context.

😂 You think I must be a sock puppet because it’s impossible for more than one person to disagree with you!

I did read the whole conversation, yes. My comment about you going ballistic was in reference to that aggressive tone you took when asserting you weren’t the sort of poster to let something slide or whatever. Seemed a bit OTT.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 09/06/2024 16:31

@Gouki , the poster who said you went ballistic thinks anyone without a meek tone is aggressive, I've seen them argue on a number of other posts. Don't worry, it's not you.

BernardBlacksBreakfastWine · 09/06/2024 16:39

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 09/06/2024 16:31

@Gouki , the poster who said you went ballistic thinks anyone without a meek tone is aggressive, I've seen them argue on a number of other posts. Don't worry, it's not you.

Ah @IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos is showing her true colours! Did I disagree with you over something once too?

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 09/06/2024 16:45

BernardBlacksBreakfastWine · 09/06/2024 16:39

Ah @IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos is showing her true colours! Did I disagree with you over something once too?

My true colours? Because I've mentioned I've seen you argue with people on other threads and accuse many people of being aggressive or angry? I think you'll find that's just me making an observation.

BernardBlacksBreakfastWine · 09/06/2024 17:51

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 09/06/2024 16:45

My true colours? Because I've mentioned I've seen you argue with people on other threads and accuse many people of being aggressive or angry? I think you'll find that's just me making an observation.

I have pointed out people’s aggression before and commented on the pile-on culture when it’s manifested on a thread, yes.

What I haven’t done is held a grudge against individual posters and commented on them personally on a completely different thread!

My reference to your true colours was intended to indicate that you’d revealed yourself as one of those posters who make a mental note of past disagreements and cling to them. Sorry if that wasn’t clear.

For all my faults, I only ever comment on the thread in hand. And I only engaged with @Gouki because I disagreed with their original unsubstantiated assertion that the OP would find it ‘ick’ if the genders were reversed. And I stand by that!

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 09/06/2024 17:55

BernardBlacksBreakfastWine · 09/06/2024 17:51

I have pointed out people’s aggression before and commented on the pile-on culture when it’s manifested on a thread, yes.

What I haven’t done is held a grudge against individual posters and commented on them personally on a completely different thread!

My reference to your true colours was intended to indicate that you’d revealed yourself as one of those posters who make a mental note of past disagreements and cling to them. Sorry if that wasn’t clear.

For all my faults, I only ever comment on the thread in hand. And I only engaged with @Gouki because I disagreed with their original unsubstantiated assertion that the OP would find it ‘ick’ if the genders were reversed. And I stand by that!

No vendetta. I just have a really good memory when it comes to names and I recognise ones I see again and again with the same theme against other posters. You feel the need to comment on pile on culture, I feel the need to tell people that the person attacking them for backing up themselves has form for it and so not to take it personally.

BernardBlacksBreakfastWine · 09/06/2024 18:02

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 09/06/2024 17:55

No vendetta. I just have a really good memory when it comes to names and I recognise ones I see again and again with the same theme against other posters. You feel the need to comment on pile on culture, I feel the need to tell people that the person attacking them for backing up themselves has form for it and so not to take it personally.

Ok, you do you. The irony is that the person you were helpfully informing about my posting history had particularly asked the person querying them to stick to the topic in hand. 🤷‍♀️

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 09/06/2024 18:06

BernardBlacksBreakfastWine · 09/06/2024 18:02

Ok, you do you. The irony is that the person you were helpfully informing about my posting history had particularly asked the person querying them to stick to the topic in hand. 🤷‍♀️

Maybe also a good idea for you, instead of commenting on people being aggressive, going ballistic or whatever? Answer the post and carry on?

BernardBlacksBreakfastWine · 09/06/2024 18:18

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 09/06/2024 18:06

Maybe also a good idea for you, instead of commenting on people being aggressive, going ballistic or whatever? Answer the post and carry on?

Look, I don’t know what your problem is. I was engaging with the actual issue, alongside observing someone else’s style of response to the actual issue. It had zero to do with you. You clearly have a problem with me based on some past thread of which I have no memory. You engaged directly with me on this thread, not the other way round; I was responding to you. If you don’t like it, don’t address me! I certainly won’t be replying to you any more.

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 09/06/2024 18:27

BernardBlacksBreakfastWine · 09/06/2024 18:18

Look, I don’t know what your problem is. I was engaging with the actual issue, alongside observing someone else’s style of response to the actual issue. It had zero to do with you. You clearly have a problem with me based on some past thread of which I have no memory. You engaged directly with me on this thread, not the other way round; I was responding to you. If you don’t like it, don’t address me! I certainly won’t be replying to you any more.

Actually I engaged with someone else, you engaged with me directly. But that's fine, I've done what I needed to.

Voyage34 · 10/06/2024 03:14

well this is 4 real and i got better things to do but ,you Ladies out thier listen up . lifes to short for being an idealist so if some say 24 yr old male want to say .no say you are attracted to him chemstry first ,the small things then say familiarisation then outright FUCKING , Well go 4 it gall .you will probably feel so fking wanted and Desired ,it will make you Smile 4 the first time in years, so you aint cradle snatching both concenting Adults, So go 4 it. for my part in this strange story i may or my not be around 70 male lived celibat 4 20 yrs and ended up after talking on a profesional level , with a young lady who just happens to be 24, and in her mind on the phone I came across as someone around 35-43, common bond, we both have the same health issues ,and that is all i am prtepared 2 say ,So I SAY GO 4 IT LADIES IF U Are not hurting no one, the only one your hurting is yourself, but BEWARE OF DATING SITES WHEN THEY START ASKING YOU 4 MONEY ,EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL., BUT ON the + side Good Luck, and FK anyone who dont like it.Me.Voyage34