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Is this Financial Abuse or AIBU?

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Mochachoc · 04/06/2024 01:49

I have been in a long-distance relationship for about 4 years. Not married and no children. Partner is very financially secure, has no mortgage and has lived in the same property his entire life, which he inherited when his parents passed away. He has never married and has no children. He has also recently inherited another property. He works and is self-employed, although semi-retired.

I have always been very independent and always owned my own home, until a few years ago when I fell into financial difficulties as a result of health problems. He has helped me financially and has been extremely generous, kind and supportive towards me and I would have ended up homeless without his support, as he provided the funds for me to move to a rented property.

I am self-employed, but my income is very small currently, mainly due to health problems and also having to start again from scratch. I have no savings, or financially security and have become completely dependant on him financially. I am trying to work towards owning my own home again and regaining my independence and security, but realistically that may be a few years away.

He helps me with money whenever I need, for things like food and essential bills when I am short, but I generally have to ask / beg for his help, which I hate doing as I find it humiliating and degrading. I have always been very grateful and appreciative to him for his support.

Sometimes I have asked him to help with a specific amount and have to explain to him what the money is needed for, but sometimes he will only help with half, or less than half of what I need, which leaves me constantly scrimping and scraping and unable to ever have any luxury, or be able to relax and I am left constantly worrying about running out of money and having to ask him for more. This is also putting me into further debt, hindering my own ability to earn and re-build any financial security for myself and I am effectively living in poverty, unable to save anything and seem to be unable to move forward to improve my future.

I am so dependent on his financial support and would be homeless without the help he does provide.

I have tried to communicate with him about this, which I think he does understand, but nothing seems to change. Sometimes he will reassure me that he will always look after me financially, but sometimes if I ask for more money he tells me he cannot afford it.

I recently ran out of heating oil and no money for food shopping or basic essentials and he told me no, he cannot help me at the moment, as he has just had to pay out thousands of pounds for his annual property / car insurance etc. He also stated that he has used all of his savings on me and has nothing left, but had previously assured me that it was no problem for him to help. So I never quite know where I stand.

I am also being evicted from my rental due to landlord selling up. Because of my extremely bad credit rating, I will need 6 months rent upfront to move home, plus security deposit and other moving costs, which I simply cannot raise that sort of money by myself. I don't even have access to a credit card for emergencies. He is extremely financially well-off and doesn't seem to care if I become homeless, which has left me feeling incredibly insecure.

He mentioned he would be having a will written to look after me if anything ever happened to him, but seems to not really be bothered that I am struggling. He also mentioned he had brought himself a £3000 chainsaw, but says he cannot currently help me with any money for basic living costs.

I am not sure if he is enjoying the control he has, or if he genuinely doesn't realise my situation.

Is this financial abuse or AIBU?

OP posts:
Ridemeginger · 04/06/2024 20:02

Utter bollocks. You simply don't have any answers to the questions asked that make you look like a reasonable/decent person. And you know it.

somethingwickedlivesnextdoor · 04/06/2024 20:02

I could write a an entire book on these matters, but won't do this on here, as I found it difficult enough to write just the first post, and I could actually make money from a publisher writing a book....

😂😂😂😂

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 04/06/2024 20:03

Ridemeginger · 04/06/2024 20:02

Utter bollocks. You simply don't have any answers to the questions asked that make you look like a reasonable/decent person. And you know it.

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just replying also as want this thread to be maxed out!

extrawhite · 04/06/2024 20:04

Mochachoc · 04/06/2024 19:58

I was going to post some more info for you, but really just can't be bothered now, as you are all too far gone and I really don't have the mental capacity to deal with your relentless abuse. .

You win! Well done! You all must be so proud of how perfect you all are.

we can just read it in your next article on the daily mail
“liz jones diary”

EveryOtherNameTaken · 04/06/2024 20:04

You could earn some good money ....

SwingingPonytail · 04/06/2024 20:05

Mochachoc · 04/06/2024 19:58

I was going to post some more info for you, but really just can't be bothered now, as you are all too far gone and I really don't have the mental capacity to deal with your relentless abuse. .

You win! Well done! You all must be so proud of how perfect you all are.

You need help OP but not here.

You've been angry and rude all the way. Not answering questions or even trying to reply to posters asking you questions to try to help you.

I'm wary of saying this but you appear to have MH issues.

I hope you get the help you need.

Mochachoc · 04/06/2024 20:07

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AhNowTed · 04/06/2024 20:07

@Mochachoc

OP seriously, it boils down to this.

You are not in a relationship where shared finances are appropriate.

This man does not need to support you, morally or for any other reason.

And what has transpired so far is out of his generosity.

Now you seem to expect it as some kind of right.

You have got this all wrong (sorry), and whilst some posters have been very harsh in expressing this, the end result is the same.

I would imagine in his shoes I'd be feeling quite put upon, and wanting to roll back.

BigAnne · 04/06/2024 20:08

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 04/06/2024 20:03

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just replying also as want this thread to be maxed out!

Thread should be removed. The op's clearly unstable/vulnerable.

CannotCareAboutKane · 04/06/2024 20:09

AhNowTed · 04/06/2024 20:07

@Mochachoc

OP seriously, it boils down to this.

You are not in a relationship where shared finances are appropriate.

This man does not need to support you, morally or for any other reason.

And what has transpired so far is out of his generosity.

Now you seem to expect it as some kind of right.

You have got this all wrong (sorry), and whilst some posters have been very harsh in expressing this, the end result is the same.

I would imagine in his shoes I'd be feeling quite put upon, and wanting to roll back.

That;s a very polite way to call the OP a gold digger.

Namedispute · 04/06/2024 20:09

DearestGentleReader · 04/06/2024 02:12

If anyone is being financially abused here, it certainly isn't you.

This.

KnitnNatterAuntie · 04/06/2024 20:09

OP details her situation and asks AIBU

98% say YES you ARE being unreasonable

950+ PP's ask questions, give helpful advice, try to get OP to see that she is definitely being unreasonable

OP responds regularly to argue her case and refuses to accept anything that 950+ PP's say

OP gets her coat and leaves

950+ PP's bang their heads on the wall . . . . .

localnotail · 04/06/2024 20:10

Mochachoc · 04/06/2024 16:05

It is actually the fault of DWP, who when I needed / applied for support for the very first time in my life, refused to help and it took them about 10 months to finally process my claim. My home would not have been repossessed otherwise. My entire lifetime of savings and substantial equity were tied up in my property and was all lost, as when a mortgage company repossess, they do not sell the property for market value, they sell for the lowest possible amount to recover their mortgage debt only. This happened about one month before the start of the pandemic, so I had no protection from the Covid laws put in place to stop possessions.

I also should have been receiving a higher amount when the claim was finally processed and I am still fighting over 4 years later for backdated payments owed.

The council refused to house me and at the time my PARTNER stepped up to help me secure a rental property, I was living on a friends sofa. He and I had no relationship before that, however I had known him for a few years before then.

Just to clarify as well as far too many assumptions are being made by many people, none of the money he has helped me with has been "given" to me - The money is loaned.

Please could people stop saying boyfriend / girlfriend. Neither of us are 12 years old.

You seem to confuse two issues. Yes, you might have been mistreated by DWP and lost your home. One issue.

Another issue - your "partner" who is not really a partner or even a boyfriend helped you out and you have been living off him since, treating him like he is your parent/ husband/ sugar daddy/ etc. BTW - do you even have sex? I actually would not be surprised if you don't.

You also say he is not keeping you, he gives you "loans". But you are talking about wanting "luxuries" - anyone who gets loans/ credit to have a high life is an idiot, come on, you must know that. Also, it does not explain why you are counting his money and seem to think its your place to decide how he spends it.

SwingingPonytail · 04/06/2024 20:10

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<sigh> Another rude post.

OP- is the health issue you have a mental health issue?

Are you seeing a dr about it?

(This is a serious question.)

MyBreezyPombear · 04/06/2024 20:11

AhNowTed · 04/06/2024 20:07

@Mochachoc

OP seriously, it boils down to this.

You are not in a relationship where shared finances are appropriate.

This man does not need to support you, morally or for any other reason.

And what has transpired so far is out of his generosity.

Now you seem to expect it as some kind of right.

You have got this all wrong (sorry), and whilst some posters have been very harsh in expressing this, the end result is the same.

I would imagine in his shoes I'd be feeling quite put upon, and wanting to roll back.

This.

I'm sorry OP but he doesn't owe you anything and he's been really generous so far, even if it is a loan because he didn't have to do that either.

I understand why you feel embarrassed and ashamed to ask him but it really doesn't fall under financial abuse.

Maybe you should write a book, see if you can get it published and maybe back on to your own two feet relying on yourself again and not some man.

iamreallyabee · 04/06/2024 20:12

KnitnNatterAuntie · 04/06/2024 20:09

OP details her situation and asks AIBU

98% say YES you ARE being unreasonable

950+ PP's ask questions, give helpful advice, try to get OP to see that she is definitely being unreasonable

OP responds regularly to argue her case and refuses to accept anything that 950+ PP's say

OP gets her coat and leaves

950+ PP's bang their heads on the wall . . . . .

I don't think this website represents most normal people. I used to think that, then I thought it was because you were English, but I realise now that it is just this website. Really damaging to my connection with humanity to have went through this

Itsonlymashadow · 04/06/2024 20:13

I think it’s one thing to be annoyed that your boyfriend (who you may or many not have ever met up with up) won’t keep financing you.

But jumping to ‘am I being abused?’ Is a whole other ball game. And sick. it’s actually vile.

SwingingPonytail · 04/06/2024 20:13

I don't think this website represents most normal people. I used to think that, then I thought it was because you were English, but I realise now that it is just this website. Really damaging to my connection with humanity to have went through this

well you don't have to take part.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 04/06/2024 20:13

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Ok, OP, I agree with your BS claims even tho they are factually and legally incorrect.

“You win! Well done! You must be so proud of how perfect you're ego is, it’s so big that it’s painful watching you endure your lack of reality of your own financial mess.

localnotail · 04/06/2024 20:16

iamreallyabee · 04/06/2024 20:12

I don't think this website represents most normal people. I used to think that, then I thought it was because you were English, but I realise now that it is just this website. Really damaging to my connection with humanity to have went through this

Them why are you still on it??? 😂

MummyJ36 · 04/06/2024 20:16

I’m getting Baby Reindeer vibes

Teenagehorrorbag · 04/06/2024 20:17

Haven't read all of this - but I think what it boils down to is: How would you manage if you weren't seeing him?

People are discussing whether the situation is abuse (we probably don't have enough detail to judge that - he could be manipulative or just fed up with subbing you.....) but separate from that is how would you cope if he wasn't on the scene?

Are you claiming all the benefits you are entitled to? Have you registered with the local authority? (yes I know you'd never get a council house unless really disabled, but they should be involved in finding you housing if you're stuck. Have you tried Shelter? I'm just thinking there are an awful lot of people in your situation without a well off BF - what do they do?

I suspect he's wondering the same. You're not married or living together so not really a 'couple' despite the 4.5 years. He may not feels he owes this level of support? Especially if it's looking likely to go on indefinitely......

Have you discussed moving in together? If you have no family or ties could you move to his - if you both want that of course?

WithACatLikeTread · 04/06/2024 20:19

iamreallyabee · 04/06/2024 20:12

I don't think this website represents most normal people. I used to think that, then I thought it was because you were English, but I realise now that it is just this website. Really damaging to my connection with humanity to have went through this

Not sure what being English has to do with it?

iamreallyabee · 04/06/2024 20:19

localnotail · 04/06/2024 20:16

Them why are you still on it??? 😂

I'm ok now

WithACatLikeTread · 04/06/2024 20:19

I am wondering if OP has MH issues or a learning difficulty.

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