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Is this Financial Abuse or AIBU?

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Mochachoc · 04/06/2024 01:49

I have been in a long-distance relationship for about 4 years. Not married and no children. Partner is very financially secure, has no mortgage and has lived in the same property his entire life, which he inherited when his parents passed away. He has never married and has no children. He has also recently inherited another property. He works and is self-employed, although semi-retired.

I have always been very independent and always owned my own home, until a few years ago when I fell into financial difficulties as a result of health problems. He has helped me financially and has been extremely generous, kind and supportive towards me and I would have ended up homeless without his support, as he provided the funds for me to move to a rented property.

I am self-employed, but my income is very small currently, mainly due to health problems and also having to start again from scratch. I have no savings, or financially security and have become completely dependant on him financially. I am trying to work towards owning my own home again and regaining my independence and security, but realistically that may be a few years away.

He helps me with money whenever I need, for things like food and essential bills when I am short, but I generally have to ask / beg for his help, which I hate doing as I find it humiliating and degrading. I have always been very grateful and appreciative to him for his support.

Sometimes I have asked him to help with a specific amount and have to explain to him what the money is needed for, but sometimes he will only help with half, or less than half of what I need, which leaves me constantly scrimping and scraping and unable to ever have any luxury, or be able to relax and I am left constantly worrying about running out of money and having to ask him for more. This is also putting me into further debt, hindering my own ability to earn and re-build any financial security for myself and I am effectively living in poverty, unable to save anything and seem to be unable to move forward to improve my future.

I am so dependent on his financial support and would be homeless without the help he does provide.

I have tried to communicate with him about this, which I think he does understand, but nothing seems to change. Sometimes he will reassure me that he will always look after me financially, but sometimes if I ask for more money he tells me he cannot afford it.

I recently ran out of heating oil and no money for food shopping or basic essentials and he told me no, he cannot help me at the moment, as he has just had to pay out thousands of pounds for his annual property / car insurance etc. He also stated that he has used all of his savings on me and has nothing left, but had previously assured me that it was no problem for him to help. So I never quite know where I stand.

I am also being evicted from my rental due to landlord selling up. Because of my extremely bad credit rating, I will need 6 months rent upfront to move home, plus security deposit and other moving costs, which I simply cannot raise that sort of money by myself. I don't even have access to a credit card for emergencies. He is extremely financially well-off and doesn't seem to care if I become homeless, which has left me feeling incredibly insecure.

He mentioned he would be having a will written to look after me if anything ever happened to him, but seems to not really be bothered that I am struggling. He also mentioned he had brought himself a £3000 chainsaw, but says he cannot currently help me with any money for basic living costs.

I am not sure if he is enjoying the control he has, or if he genuinely doesn't realise my situation.

Is this financial abuse or AIBU?

OP posts:
LifeisHard73 · 04/06/2024 19:31

Feelsodrained · 04/06/2024 19:17

Not really, no. If the show was about a gold digger then I’d see what you were trying to do. I can see absolutely no similarities between this and Baby Reindeer.

It’s about being totally deluded and believing your own bullshit about a situation, not accepting any responsibility for anything that’s happened to you & generally being bat shit mental!

butterpuffed · 04/06/2024 19:31

I don't want this thread to end 😅

ChickyBricky · 04/06/2024 19:31

You must be very hot in bed, OP, I'll say that for you 🤯

iamreallyabee · 04/06/2024 19:32

Lot of low standards I see

SwingingPonytail · 04/06/2024 19:32

I personally see our relationship as a partnership/team, however it is becoming apparent to me that he maybe does not see things that way and is being selfish, greedy, controlling and demeaning, treating me like a lesser person.

Kindly, as some other posters have said, it looks as if you are unwell.

You are suffering from delusions and a complete loss of judgement.
Please see your GP and discuss (if you're not being cared for already in this way.)

FluentRubyDog · 04/06/2024 19:32

OP, are you ever going to take responsibility for your own life and actions or is everyone always going to be ganging up on you?

Ridemeginger · 04/06/2024 19:33

Feelsodrained · 04/06/2024 19:23

It depends I think. I don’t think someone who has lost their home from being ill is what I’d term a cocklodger, male or female.
I’d also say it might be more complex than it first appears and I first thought cocklodger but now I’m not so sure. OP is desperate, having lost her home and struggling to find a rental property. He has substantial assets and earns well and helps her with a loan that then turns into a relationship (would this have happened if he hadn’t had the leverage of the loan?) and she then has to beg him for food money and sometimes he lends it to her, sometimes he doesn’t. I’m not so sure about it all and it reminds me a bit of those “sex for rent” blokes who take in desperate women who feel they don’t have any other options. Something feels a bit off and there’s a big financial power imbalance.

Sorry, I am not getting power imbalance at all from the OP. Financial imbalance, for sure (to a point, since she appears to have spend all this bloke's savings). But power? Read her posts. She doesn't not sound like a subjugated woman, she is very clear that she does not want to live with the BF because she thinks he would be controlling. She lives nowhere near him, so how can he be controlling her activities on a day to day basis in any practical way? He's not stopping her working or indeed forcing her to. She does not sound like someone without agency. She just sounds like someone pissed off that the gravy boat is empty.

Weddingfrock · 04/06/2024 19:33

Baby reindeer

Niegenug · 04/06/2024 19:34

I, along with many others, have repeatedly asked the OP how far away they live from their 'DP' and how often they physically meet up.

It is very noticeable how they will eventually answer some questions, but not these two.

From their subsequent posts, I can only conclude the following:

As, the OP stated they met through mutual acquaintances and were just platonic friends.

They live far apart but the platonic friendship continued. OP fell on hard times and the friend started helping her out financially. Hence OP's references to the financial help being loans and payment terms set.

This has been happening for 4.5 years. The OP knows he doesn't have family and maybe not too many friends either. OP is in a similar position. So OP has then believed that they are a couple. Because hey, that's what couples do, don't they? Talk to each other, provide emotional support and help each other, in this case financially.

But in a real relationship, the partner wouldn't be offering loans, they would be saying come and live me, even if it was for a short time period. They would be helping you sort out your finances to help you get back on your feet.

I think there may be a 'gentleman friend ', but that there is no romantic relationship. You equate a romantic relationship with him being there to bail you out financially. Neither of those appear to apply to you.

  1. You are not in a committed romantic relationship
  2. He is not required to financially support you for evermore
  3. Just because he has no family doesn't mean you should get his money and assets when he dies. For all you know, he may prefer to leave it all to a cat charity or donkey home.

So, OP it's time to get your head out of cloud cuckoo land and stop blaming everyone around you for your current plight.

As others have said, go and get yourself a proper paid job and start living your life as a single adult woman who can pay her own bills. Just like the rest of us single adult, capable women.

PeonyAndBlushSuede · 04/06/2024 19:34

@Mochachoc serious question, if your partner phoned you this evening and explained that he would like to end the relationship, what would you do?

Take some bloody accountability for yourself. You sound incredibly nauseating. Your thread is insulting to people who do suffer financial abuse.

extrawhite · 04/06/2024 19:34

long distance
and got together during covid

i reckon these two have seen each other a handful of times at most

pinkfondu · 04/06/2024 19:35

Yes you should LTB and show him how much better off you will be on your own

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extrawhite · 04/06/2024 19:36

liz jones was made bankrupt
liz jones home was repossessed

Uricon2 · 04/06/2024 19:36

iamreallyabee · 04/06/2024 19:32

Lot of low standards I see

No, my standards are high, they don't involve being supported for years by a boyfriend I don't live with.

And please don't presume to apologise on my behalf.

SwingingPonytail · 04/06/2024 19:37

BS is bullshit.

Tell us - how were you party to the landlord's confidential finances?
How did you know he wasn't supposed to rent his flat according to the mortgage contract?

How did the rental agency know/ not know?

It's not illegal to have security cameras on your home.
It's illegal to have them facing a street where the public are.

Uricon2 · 04/06/2024 19:37

extrawhite · 04/06/2024 19:36

liz jones was made bankrupt
liz jones home was repossessed

The general tone is certainly similar!

Itsonlymashadow · 04/06/2024 19:38

Feelsodrained · 04/06/2024 19:28

He is allowed to do whatever he likes. He didn’t have to lend her anything and I have a niggling sense that maybe he lent her the money as a way of forming a relationship with her (because she is then indebted to him) and uses this as a form of control by sometimes helping her, sometimes not, making promises about buying houses but then changing his mind. She’s in a desperate position. If he doesn’t feel able to help her then he should have ended the relationship and walked away a long time ago.

So if he can't afford to give her regular money he should have ended the relationship?

He used money yo form the relationship? Do you mean Op used him for his money?

extrawhite · 04/06/2024 19:38

it tallies up so much

are you an extreme animal lover op? particularly cats and horses?

SwingingPonytail · 04/06/2024 19:39

extrawhite · 04/06/2024 19:38

it tallies up so much

are you an extreme animal lover op? particularly cats and horses?

Liz Jones wouldn't waste her time writing here when she can earn a couple of grand for the Mail.

Uricon2 · 04/06/2024 19:39

extrawhite · 04/06/2024 19:38

it tallies up so much

are you an extreme animal lover op? particularly cats and horses?

Do you think he's the Rock Star?

iamreallyabee · 04/06/2024 19:40

extrawhite · 04/06/2024 19:38

it tallies up so much

are you an extreme animal lover op? particularly cats and horses?

And what is wrong with extremely loving a cat or horse ?

Butchyrestingface · 04/06/2024 19:40

extrawhite · 04/06/2024 19:36

liz jones was made bankrupt
liz jones home was repossessed

Is she self-employed but making hee haw?

velveteens · 04/06/2024 19:40

Have you actually even met this man?

It sounds like you have such a tenuous grip on reality that you've made a platonic "connection" into a full blown romantic partnership. Is your "self -employed business" actually that you've got an MLM FB page and your years of working hard, paying thousands in taxes is you flogging Scentsy or something?!

None of this adds up. You sound delusional and frankly unhinged.

SwingingPonytail · 04/06/2024 19:40

Again- we know you're reading OP- but still choosing not to reply to questions that would prove you're not being honest.

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