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AIBU to wish that there was dedicated housing for quiet people?

190 replies

NoMoreNoisePlease · 02/06/2024 13:40

I’m Autistic(Diagnosed) and I’ve never been a fan of noise but I’m becoming increasingly noise averse as I’m approaching middle age.

I don’t expect complete silence and I actively enjoy hearing two of my neighbours’ children play and having fun but some others seem to spend 3/4 of their time screaming. Why do so many children seem to scream now?

Plus there’s the thump of footballs, rusty trampoline springs, people playing loud music, fireworks and so many other loud intrusive noises.

I want to get away from it all but moving rurally(I’m semi rural) isn’t really the best option for me due to disabilities.

I think that I’m going to have to move to an over 50s complex as soon as I’m old enough. Though I fear the blaring televisions.

AIBU to wish that there was specific housing for quiet noise averse people like me?

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Thelastbitofketchup · 02/06/2024 18:11

That’s for me to decide
and therein is the issue for everyone else.

Of course this is fine if everyone else wants you to do it your way. Or collectively together although just from this thread it’s was to see disagreements in practice.

why should everyone else be silent for you? Why shouldn’t people have bbqs with clinking glasses and chatter on a nice day? No loud music, children playing not screaming, no banging music.

Things that are antisocial are against the law. I’m not antisocial. But your want of me to be quiet doesn’t trump my right to reasonable as defined in law enjoyment.

NoMoreNoisePlease · 02/06/2024 18:12

I think that's a little unfair. I started by wondering the same thing, and that eventually led to my NHS diagnosis.

Likewise.

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Theothername · 02/06/2024 18:12

Maybe we could crowd fund a small gated community?

42ndchance · 02/06/2024 18:14

Oh God, yes please!

Just been chased inside again by neighbour putting his loud banging (shit) music on at full volume. His full grown teenage sons have started kicking the ball repeatedly against the wall (though at least they can't vault over the fence to retrieve it repeatedly now, I planted an edible thorny hedge three years ago to stop that). We've been lucky today, at least the hot tub and 'tiki' bar aren't being used from 10 am until midnight, that's usually what happens every sunny day.

We live in a small victorian terraced house with small gardens.

I have a 7 and 11 year old, I take them to the very nearby park to play football, they've never screamed in the garden and generally busy themselves reading or following interests (hunting for bugs and frogs at the moment). I don't assume the entire road shares my taste in music so wear headphones or play it quietly indoors at quiet tv volume level.

If my other neighbours weren't an elderly lady and a care home for two disabled ladies I would treat fuckwit neighbour to an all day BTS and Jackson Wang-a-thon.

Currently hunting for a rural/seaside house, we wfh so no worries there, though realistically finances mean we have to have a few more summers without use of our garden yet.

NoMoreNoisePlease · 02/06/2024 18:15

But your want of me to be quiet doesn’t trump my right to reasonable as defined in law enjoyment.

I’m not demanding anything of my neighbours as you may have noticed if you’d read the bloody thread because I haven’t once mentioned doing that! The whole point is that I want to make accommodations to suit my needs and disabilities. Why the hell that seems to trouble you so much, considering that it’d be me making the adjustment not my neighbours is beyond me.

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Redflagman · 02/06/2024 18:16

Yes here's my gripes:

Next door neighbors...have spent the whole weekend doing DIY in the garden...all day noise, sound, banging, drill, power tools, music, loud speaking...I can't go into my own garden because it's so bloody loud. Kitchen patio doors have to be shut. Prior to that a few weeks ago they spent 9 days in succession doing DIY in their garden. They also have 4 dogs that not walked that bark at 5.30am, and in the past have played loud music until 2am...a few months ago they were doing DIY at 10.45pm at night in the room next to our bed, or the time they were removing floor tiles at 11.30pm, or came home from a night out and woke us up at 4am...and when we complain they shirty and funny with us, as if we are the ones being disrespectful and anti social... I'm also autistic and it drives me insane. I'd love for all the introverts, highly sensitive people, autistic/neurodiverse people who don't like loud noise to live near each other, the rest who want to be noisy and don't care can live near each other and out do each other and speak above each other's noise.

bilgewater · 02/06/2024 18:32

I'd be up for it. I'm well over 50, but I'm not looking at retirement complexes for relief - with my luck I'd end up with all the superannuated ravers of my generation. It'll be less Darby and Joan than 24 Hour Party People in lovingly preserved vintage bucket hats.

mitogoshi · 02/06/2024 18:41

Whilst older persons living complexes might sound quiet, choose very carefully, due to my work I'm in and out of our local ones and 1 is very quiet, one is party central and the others in between

RedToothBrush · 02/06/2024 19:16

Unfortunately sometimes noisy things are necessary.

You need to learn to cope with them.

Cos reality.

NoMoreNoisePlease · 02/06/2024 19:24

Unfortunately sometimes noisy things are necessary.

You need to learn to cope with them.

Cos reality.

I’m Autistic not a blithering idiot thank you for the patronising ableist remarks. Though you really shouldn’t have bothered!

And I can tolerate some noises. I live opposite a farm and the farm machinery doesn’t bother me one bit but other noises do and some increasingly so.

Also the reality is that I’m autistic and my autism doesn’t much care for what you or anyone including me, thinks that I should be able to cope with hence why I want to make accommodations for myself that won’t affect my neighbours.

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Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 02/06/2024 19:25

I'll come too if there is immediate eviction for whistling, and vocalised yawns and sneezes.

Vettrianofan · 02/06/2024 19:30

Can't stand noise at night. Hate it as I try to settle to sleep. DH thinks I need to see a GP as he thinks I am too sensitive to noise.

Last night next door neighbours arrived back from a family get together, 9.50pm...fine. but no not fine. They then get in their house then put TV on, keep their 3yo up till midnight....FFS completely unnecessary being so loud. I am early 40s and can't cope with people who have parties laughing and talking loudly into the wee small hours. Shut up some of us need sleep!

Definitely I should be priority for quiet folk only housing!!!

ButternutSoup · 02/06/2024 19:32

oakleaffy · 02/06/2024 15:07

I have a silent dog- she never barks- I’ve never owned barky dogs as the sound is so annoying.

Certain types are given to inane yapping- horrible sound.

Oh, could you tell me what breed of dog? Or is it just a personality thing? I've never owned a dog grew up with cats and would love to get one because I love them and want to do more walking, but am a bit worried about whether there would be too much barking. If so, I'd probably need to pay for training and/or dog behaviourist and be disciplined in how I train the dog, but what if all that didn't help?

I know some breeds are quieter than others, but I didn't know some never barked at all.

Vistada · 02/06/2024 19:35

My neighbours didn't realise I was even here for two years as I generally float above floors and through walls - I lip read my tv on silent and communicate only through the written word.

Genuinely don't know how others can be so noisy!

Nubnut · 02/06/2024 19:38

Move to Germany!

ButternutSoup · 02/06/2024 19:40

RoseUnder · 02/06/2024 15:22

Switzerland already has these rules to enforce peace and quiet especially in evenings and on weekends.

The rules are followed to the letter by the population who all vote for, agree with and appreciate them!

This is from a Swiss Government website;
“Peace and quiet is important to our quality of life. It enables people to relax, sleep well, concentrate, and to hear each other. Noise, meanwhile, is intrusive, and causes illness.”

https://www.bafu.admin.ch/bafu/en/home/topics/noise/in-brief.html

It's wonderful that they take the negative health effects of noise pollution seriously. There have been many times in my life that I've dreamed of moving to Switzerland for this very reason. But for now, I just use a loud fan to provide white noise to cover the neighbourhood noise.

setmestraightplease · 02/06/2024 19:41

@NoMoreNoisePlease Yes! Yes! YES! (er .... didn't mean to shout that last 'yes' 🙂)
People used to be considerate about their neighbours and causing noise that might be a nuisance to them - but nowadays people seem to be all about 'it's my right to live as I want / make as much noise as I want / as long as I'm happy and expressing my true self'

I'll happily form a (quiet!) community with you 🙂

Kianai · 02/06/2024 19:42

Vistada · 02/06/2024 19:35

My neighbours didn't realise I was even here for two years as I generally float above floors and through walls - I lip read my tv on silent and communicate only through the written word.

Genuinely don't know how others can be so noisy!

Very easy to spot the noisy neighbours on this thread 🤣

Must have hit a nerve op, I can't imagine being this snarky or dismissive of someone saying they would like to live in a community, in a way that would affect NOONE else at all that didnt want to live there.

Is making noise no fun if there is noone to listen to sufferthrough it?

ButternutSoup · 02/06/2024 19:46

Thelastbitofketchup · 02/06/2024 15:16

it Exists
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/141024821
plenty more like that take your pick
hth
so sick of people trying to police other people to their wants

It doesn't sound to me like OP wants to police others; it seems she accepts this is the world we live in, but she is exploring the idea of having designated quiet housing for people like us who find noise pollution distressing.

Studies have shown that noise pollution has negative health effects, and Switzerland has strict laws governing when noise is and isn't allowed.

I'm not saying we should necessarily be like Switzerland, but I think there is room for discussing how to make accommodations for people with different needs.

Vistada · 02/06/2024 19:46

Kianai · 02/06/2024 19:42

Very easy to spot the noisy neighbours on this thread 🤣

Must have hit a nerve op, I can't imagine being this snarky or dismissive of someone saying they would like to live in a community, in a way that would affect NOONE else at all that didnt want to live there.

Is making noise no fun if there is noone to listen to sufferthrough it?

Edited

I wasn't actually having a go at the OP! I think it's a good, if blue sky, idea. My thread history comprises of moaning about tinkerer neighbours and footnalls at fences so I certainly sympathise.

Hell is other people as they say.

I was actually mocking the competitive edge this thread has taken (as it often does on MN) as to who can be the most quiet.

Particularly loving the silent mime dogs

BiscuityBoyle · 02/06/2024 19:54

RedToothBrush · 02/06/2024 19:16

Unfortunately sometimes noisy things are necessary.

You need to learn to cope with them.

Cos reality.

Of course noisy things are sometimes necessary.
Blaring music is not necessary.
Shouting at your children is not necessary.

UnctuousUnicorns · 02/06/2024 19:59

fitzwilliamdarcy · 02/06/2024 14:00

In theory yes but I know parents who use the quiet coach on trains in the hope that it helps their noisy kids be quiet (it never works).

I would absolutely love it though. Sick to death of kids screaming and kicking footballs all over the place outside my house when there’s an enormous park 3 minutes away.

Thus it ever was. My mum used to fume about the kids kicking footballs around outside our house, when there was a park just across the road. This was over forty years ago. 🤷‍♀️

Vettrianofan · 02/06/2024 20:23

NoMoreNoisePlease · 02/06/2024 15:27

I wish that I could move to Switzerland.

Same here. I would give anything for those rules...

Timeturnerplease · 02/06/2024 20:27

I can live with most kind of noise, but other people playing music outside through speakers gives me the absolute rage. I can’t explain it. Screaming children, lawnmowers etc do not faze me.

Sign me up for a village that completely bans speaker music and I will sell my soul to live there.

Graceandfavor · 02/06/2024 20:37

Yes I’d love that. No music in the garden, nothing audible between houses and silence between 10.00 and 7.00 am