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AIBU to wish that there was dedicated housing for quiet people?

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NoMoreNoisePlease · 02/06/2024 13:40

I’m Autistic(Diagnosed) and I’ve never been a fan of noise but I’m becoming increasingly noise averse as I’m approaching middle age.

I don’t expect complete silence and I actively enjoy hearing two of my neighbours’ children play and having fun but some others seem to spend 3/4 of their time screaming. Why do so many children seem to scream now?

Plus there’s the thump of footballs, rusty trampoline springs, people playing loud music, fireworks and so many other loud intrusive noises.

I want to get away from it all but moving rurally(I’m semi rural) isn’t really the best option for me due to disabilities.

I think that I’m going to have to move to an over 50s complex as soon as I’m old enough. Though I fear the blaring televisions.

AIBU to wish that there was specific housing for quiet noise averse people like me?

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dottiedodah · 02/06/2024 16:27

Im fine with children (Not screaming though) .some music (not all day long) ,And a dog barking 10 mins max .(My own dog 1 bark and shes in) .Impressed with myself as NDN said they didnt know we had a dog as they never hear her! What I hate is drilling ,hammering and garden equipment.

DancelikeFredAstaire · 02/06/2024 16:45

I'm packing my bags ready to join you OP.
For the last 4 hours there has been constant screaming, fighting and arguing from the kids next door, the "thump, thump, thump" of a football being kicked against the wall separating my garden from a common area of land because clearly the 5 minute walk to the local playing field (where there are actual goalposts), is too much of an effort and I have no idea what the bloke opposite is building but it apparently involves the use of a circular saw for 3 hours.
All this in, what is laughingly described by every estate agent for miles around, a "sleepy village".

Averagelife · 02/06/2024 16:46

It is possible to have quiet dogs
Sighthounds are usually quiet 🤫 in my experience- but there are exceptions to every rule
I looked after my friend’s Whippet and she was barking- but my own dog is so quiet people have said “Is there a dog in there?!”

Dont get me wrong, I expect to hear dogs bark and especially if the owner is on it and quick to deal with it but it’s the owners that know from the second their dog goes out that it’s going to bark, and bark, and bark and do sod all! This can happen as late as 11pm, just as you’re dropping off to sleep.

But there’s no recourse, everyone is too frightened to report because they know that they’ll then have to declare it should they move at a later date - what is the point in having ASB teams if people are just too worried to make a complaint. I just think the more crowded we become and houses are thrown up like rabbit hutches, dog ownership keeps steadily increasing, the worse it becomes!

Victor Meldrew rant over!

Boomer55 · 02/06/2024 16:48

In an ideal world, there would be specified housing for all people. It’s not an ideal world, and we just do the best we can.

LlynTegid · 02/06/2024 16:49

If they really are screaming several hours a day, it is not the only issue there is.

Gensola · 02/06/2024 16:57

The selfish arseholes a few doors down from us let their large dog bark all day and night - it’s stopping us from selling our house. It starts at 7am and goes on til late at night as they leave it in the garden bored out of its mind all day. I reported them to the RSPCA but no one cares.

NoMoreNoisePlease · 02/06/2024 16:58

If they really are screaming several hours a day, it is not the only issue there is.

I find that a majority of kids seem to scream now, even if they don’t have special needs. I’m not the only one who’s noticed this.

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DdraigGoch · 02/06/2024 17:00

PaperSheet · 02/06/2024 14:58

I was on a quiet coach once and a family got on with 2 kids who they allowed to watch iPads at a loud volume. When someone reminded them it was the quiet carriage the woman replied she knew that but her kids had autism and needed the quiet coach as they couldn't stand noise from others. But also they couldn't wear headphones so needed to listen to their shows out loud.
So yeah I can imagine loud people will still want to live in quiet apartments for the same reason. THEY want everyone to be quiet but they need allowances to make noise.

Some people have such brass neck.

CanadianJohn · 02/06/2024 17:01

I've lived for 40 years in a VERY quiet neighbourhood. Shortly after we moved here, one of my neighbours complained because I mowed the lawn on a Sunday... the Lord's Day. (I told him that I was not religious, and didn't feel the need to "keep holy the Sabbath Day".

Nowadays, almost everyone mows their lawn on Sundays.

ChrissyShenkle · 02/06/2024 17:02

There is, there's a housing scheme near me which is just for people with no children, not sure if it just older people or those with no children too

betterangels · 02/06/2024 17:04

NoMoreNoisePlease · 02/06/2024 16:58

If they really are screaming several hours a day, it is not the only issue there is.

I find that a majority of kids seem to scream now, even if they don’t have special needs. I’m not the only one who’s noticed this.

No, I've noticed this on public transport.

I love your idea and would jump at it. Sometimes I wear headphones to block out neighbours' excessive noise. It seems that shouldn't be necessary.

ChrissyShenkle · 02/06/2024 17:05

It's for over 45s. Just had a look

DdraigGoch · 02/06/2024 17:05

Idling cars and motorbikes get fined. (by whom? you can't even report rapes and burglaries. I freely admit none of this is possible)

The thing about burglaries and rapes is that they are difficult (i.e. expensive) to investigate and prosecute. Offences involving motor vehicles are easy. Footage from ANPR or submitted by the public means that the process is almost automatic.

I'd just ban all cars. Most people can use bicycles, others can use mobility scooters, and those jobs too big for a cargo bike can be done with some electric vehicles from STIMBO Elektrofahrzeuge, like in Zermatt.

Cities aren't loud, cars are loud:

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SillyLemonHelper · 02/06/2024 17:05

Sounds great in theory, but the reason why this wouldn't work is because ND people are only averse to others' noise – and not their own!

We all make noise without realising just how much (eg if the seemingly low noise is amplified a certain way for someone in the next room), plus everyone has different specific noise triggers.

Also, the conversations/conflict between ND neighbours re the noise would go very badly!

Saying this as an ND person myself with plenty of experience with other ND people!

Thelastbitofketchup · 02/06/2024 17:06

so sick of people trying to police other people to their wants

Yes heaven forbid that anyone wants to live their life while simultaneously being considerate of others. It’s perfectly possible to do both if you aren’t a selfish wanker.

so no need for the segregation you’re suggesting then?🙄

Terrribletwos · 02/06/2024 17:06

Cazzovuoi · 02/06/2024 14:27

Adult only apartment complexes and housing estates are my dream.

I can’t stand kids and am always happy to pay premium to avoid them!

What if they have dogs tho, that bark all day?

ChrissyShenkle · 02/06/2024 17:08

This is it

AIBU to wish that there was dedicated housing for quiet people?
Thelastbitofketchup · 02/06/2024 17:09

I find that a majority of kids seem to scream now, even if they don’t have special needs. I’m not the only one who’s noticed this.

it really isn’t a majority 😆
confirmation bias - you see(hear) what you’re looking for

OriginalUsername2 · 02/06/2024 17:09

Yes please! No people that can only communicate by shouting allowed.

NoMoreNoisePlease · 02/06/2024 17:10

so no need for the segregation you’re suggesting then?🙄

Well there is because there’s plenty of inconsiderate people out there and you don’t get to choose who you live next to. And some of us are so noise averse that it’s genuinely detrimental to us. I fail to see the problem with people seeking a community that works for them, that no one would be forced to live in and which is adapted to our needs.

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EmeraldRoulette · 02/06/2024 17:11

Am with you OP
Also concerned about loud TVs if I go to over 55s when the time comes

And noisy cars and bikes with modified exhausts....argh.

I'm not autistic.

my mum complains that she can't hear me enter the house. I don't know how people make so much noise!

NoMoreNoisePlease · 02/06/2024 17:11

I hear screaming more often that not. Not all kids do it, next door’s kid is a delight but it seems to be the norm now.

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Onemonkeyand3wisemen · 02/06/2024 17:12

You would absolutely love living next door to my neighbour who's on the spectrum, she is always absolutely bellowing and it's mega mega loud and there's absolutely no need for it, you could say it's her a condition but it's not as if there is something she doesn't want anyone to hear she will practically whisper.

OpusGiemuJavlo · 02/06/2024 17:12

Sounds wonderful! I am sure there would be a huge narket for homes in a dedicated "quiet zone"

The tricky thing would be border effects. Assuming that one can usually hear people in next-door-but-one's garden the quiet zone would have to have a two-house-deep border of people who were required to be quiet for the benefit of people in the quiet zone in one direction but who had normal-noise-volume from the neighbours in the other direction.

All properties would have to be leasehold rather than freehold with the freeholder being a management committee with the power to force you to sell and move elsewhere if you broke the quietness rules.

shellshocks · 02/06/2024 17:13

Yes, beware the over 50's complex, my mum, aunt and uncle live in different retirement places and have all had trouble with neighbours booming TV's. All bar one resolved.

I live on a busy road - you get used to. I can handle bbqs, lawnmowers and power tools - anything that's fairly necessary (to the noisemaker) but loud music, TV noise, shouting, banging and anything which is just plain inconsiderate makes my blood boil.

Praying that one day I can afford to live detached.