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Fall out with Grandson

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LadySmurf · 30/05/2024 06:30

Recently I was asked to look after my two grandsons 14 & 8. The 14yo can be a handful with his behaviour and language, but we had a lovely time together, I took them out for the day and they wanted to sleep over. The next morning, 14yo was stroppy and swearing - I asked him to stop and not talk like that. The 8yo said “Mum said if you’re naughty they’ll take away your Xbox for a week” well it was like a red rag. He started shouting and swearing at me - then he punched me in the stomach. I’m very sad and horrified to say, I smacked his face in a reactive moment. When his parents came, I explained what happened and said sorry to him. They said he would apologise the next day - but nothing.
They took him home and now a month on, I’ve not had any contact with him, only the rest of the family.
I saw him yesterday when I visited their house. I said hello and asked how he was? He ignored me and told his brother he hates me.
Its his birthday next week - I don’t feel like giving him a gift. should I still? AIBU?

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BettyUnderswoob · 06/06/2024 12:35

Someone earlier reckoned that @Bellaboo01 and/or other teen violence apologists were probably social workers. This actually fits very well with my experience of SWs when I was experiencing violence at the hands of my autistic child, who was then 13.

We were the same height, and child was faster, stronger and 37 years younger than me. DH and I were assaulted and injured, the house and contents wrecked or damaged daily. Social Services couldn't have cared less and told us to call the police - who would only have referred us back to social services and CAMHS, whom DC was already being seen by. 🤔
They were more than happy for a woman (me) to suffer violence daily; didn't see it as an issue at all.

LordPercyPercy · 06/06/2024 12:37

@BettyUnderswoob I'm really sorry you went through that, the attitude is horrifying.

BettyUnderswoob · 06/06/2024 12:38

And fucking hell what blind bit of difference does it make who's bigger?
Is an adult man allowed to attack a taller woman without consequence?
The idiocy on this thread.

BettyUnderswoob · 06/06/2024 12:45

Thanks @LordPercyPercy
CAMHS eventually came good for us, and DC received the appropriate help and medication.

LordPercyPercy · 06/06/2024 12:57

I'm glad to hear that, I hope you're all doing well now, it must have been an incredibly difficult time for you.

Lifelong · 06/06/2024 13:07

Alltheunreadbooks · 06/06/2024 11:27

Sorry, just had to comment on this.

My DD had a friend, a boy, who was very sweet and as well as playing together outdoors on bikes, building dens, looking for creepy crawlies etc , they played on his Playstation doing Minecraft. This is when they were around 9 .

The boy has progressed to Fortnite and has changed. He is now 11 and irratible, anxious and quick to temper. I believe it is due to excessive time spent on this game.

It's so easy to view this 'Gaming Time' as having a bit of peace and quiet in your own home , having time to yourself, but I don't believe it is healthy for kids.

I'm sure teachers can tell the kids that have way too much screen time as well.

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Because it is animated it was viewed as harmless, but the highly competitive nature of the game was really not good.
No other game we have had in this house has been anything like this. They are all going on 21 and at university now, but were 14/15 at the time. My son subsequently admitted that it seemed to actually drive them all a bit mad. It was only a year or two afterwards we started to read all the negative stories about this particular game.

Shiveringinthecountry · 06/06/2024 13:12

I'm so glad you've dealt with it like that, OP. It sounds perfect to me 👌

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 06/06/2024 13:33

whatsitcalledwhen · 06/06/2024 11:42

@Bellaboo01

Ah what a shame you've just said you won't be back further, before you had a chance to answer the questions I asked you previously.

Here they are again in case you find a few minutes...

Are you honestly saying that if one of the vulnerable teens (a girl, let's say) you have previously cared for came to you and said they had been punched in the stomach by a vulnerable teen boy and as a reflex, without thinking or planning, they slapped him, you would tell her that violence is violence and she was morally wrong to do so?

You wouldn't explain that her reaction was self defence and something that is a fight or flight self preservation response to being attacked?

You wouldn't explain that she couldn't have known if he would continue punching her in the stomach and that her reaction was her body attempting to defend itself?

Again, it's concerning you have cared for vulnerable people (of any age) with such black and white thinking and lack of ability to consider the nuance of situations.

Another question for you - after how many punches to the stomach by their teenage grandson is it ok for a grandma to hit back in self defence? Or is it never ok and they should just accept their fate and be assaulted until the assailant decides to stop?

In my opinion, @Bellaboo01 is opting out because she cannot answer the questions you have posed to her. She cannot explain why a completely reflexive response to a deliberate punch is as bad as the deliberate punch. She can't explain how @LadySmurf should have reacted to being punched in the stomach, nor how she was to know whether her grandson was going to stop at one punch.

Catshaveiteasy · 06/06/2024 19:21

Great response OP. I hope the parents step up.

PurpleReindeer2 · 22/06/2024 14:46

Well done OP. You did well explaining your reasoning and how they need to improve their parenting skills to help their son.

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