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In-laws arrange events knowing my eldest will be at her dad’s

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ThoroughlyDisgruntled · 29/05/2024 12:37

Received a formal invitation to an event organised by BiL and his partner for me, husband and our two younger children with no mention of my eldest girl who is 10.
I rang SiL (whose number was down for RSVP, not because she is a woman) and asked about my eldest.
She said that she thought eldest would be with her dad, I agreed but said he would be more than willing to change the date.
SiL just blatantly said she couldn’t see point if my daughter already had plans.
She then intimated that MiL had said to choose this particular date but when asked to clarify she back tracked. I persisted and she said it was too late but if anyone dropped out she could come. This had to be practically dragged out of her.
I now realise on reflection that they have lots of informal events when my girl isn’t there.
So am I unreasonable to want my girl at events with her sisters, on my husband’s side even if she could be with her dad?

OP posts:
showerjelly · 31/05/2024 06:09

Very unkind of the ILs.

MiddleParking · 31/05/2024 06:49

PomPomtheGreat · 30/05/2024 02:16

We became step-grandparents a few years ago and couldn't have been more thrilled. As far as we are concerned, my son's stepchildren (he doesn't refer to them like that but as his children) are our grandchildren in exactly the same way as our biological grandchildren.

We feel honoured that their lovely mum has so warmly welcomed us into their lives and hope to do a good job as grandparents. They are children who deserve to have as many loving adults as possible in their lives, and the fact their parents split up and their mum now has a new partner is absolutely nothing to do with them or how anyone should treat them in the future.

Yes, they may get trips or inheritances from the other side of their family. I can't see what that has to do with me. They're my grandchildren, and they'll get the same trips, treats and future inheritance as all my other grandchildren. We wouldn't have it any other way, and luckily our other adult children agree wholeheartedly.

I do understand the argument that if our son and his now wife split up, we may run the risk of seeing the children less. But anyone who gets to the age of being a grandparent realises that life unfortunately brings the odd unpredictable loss. You can't make your own life smaller by living as though those losses are inevitable.

If it happens, we'll deal with it at the time. We refuse to diminish our joy in our grandchildren and the time we spend with them now in case something goes wrong in the future.

And in return, we are so lucky to have the joy of being a part of our beautiful grandchildren's lives. We definitely feel like the winners here.

I feel like this is the opposite extreme to deliberately excluding the children and I’m not sure either is a great way to approach it. My sister had stepchildren for several years and while me and my other sibling and parents invited them everywhere, bought them presents etc, I think it would have been really destabilising and unfair on my own nephew (her son) if we had immediately drawn no distinction whatsoever between these kids we’d just met, and him who we’d loved his whole life and always will, to the point of even having to share any inheritance if his adored grandparents who helped raise him had died. As it transpired it would also have been destabilising and unfair on the SC (even more so than the situation already was), because my sister and their father split up and we’ve never seen them since. There is a happy medium between deliberately uninviting SC from family wedding receptions and just pretending there’s nothing special or different at all about children’s relationships with their core family.

PorridgeEater · 31/05/2024 09:42

I don't think you can change what they organise and when.
You could organise your own event?

BlueFlowers5 · 31/05/2024 10:12

Excluding a child or children, regularly, is not good. Not good for her and her siblings.
It's as important to build their relationships so in their lives they know and can rely on and love their siblings.
My now adult DS has 4 half siblings and 2 step siblings. They all consider themselves full siblings and meet and support each other

PomPomtheGreat · 31/05/2024 10:56

MiddleParking · 31/05/2024 06:49

I feel like this is the opposite extreme to deliberately excluding the children and I’m not sure either is a great way to approach it. My sister had stepchildren for several years and while me and my other sibling and parents invited them everywhere, bought them presents etc, I think it would have been really destabilising and unfair on my own nephew (her son) if we had immediately drawn no distinction whatsoever between these kids we’d just met, and him who we’d loved his whole life and always will, to the point of even having to share any inheritance if his adored grandparents who helped raise him had died. As it transpired it would also have been destabilising and unfair on the SC (even more so than the situation already was), because my sister and their father split up and we’ve never seen them since. There is a happy medium between deliberately uninviting SC from family wedding receptions and just pretending there’s nothing special or different at all about children’s relationships with their core family.

I do understand your point of view. But I stick to my perspective that there is room for everyone in a family, and our step-grandchildren, who are never contacted by their family on the other side, can easily and joyfully be absorbed into our family without anyone's nose being put out of joint.

EWAB · 31/05/2024 15:30

@PomPomtheGreat Will your bio grandchildren resent you for reducing their inheritance because you treated your step grandchildren the same as them?

My late mother-in-law told her niece that is why she left her money to her grandchildren and not her children so that my beautiful son her step grandson wouldn’t inherit by default.

Bellyblueboy · 31/05/2024 19:10

EWAB · 31/05/2024 15:30

@PomPomtheGreat Will your bio grandchildren resent you for reducing their inheritance because you treated your step grandchildren the same as them?

My late mother-in-law told her niece that is why she left her money to her grandchildren and not her children so that my beautiful son her step grandson wouldn’t inherit by default.

Inheritance and step families are a mine field. We have heard countless stories about how parents remarry, the husband does first and all the money goes to the second wife and her children rather than the husbands children.

therefore while I understand you see this as unfair - if this woman didn’t consider your son to be her grandchild then I can see why she wanted to protect her grandchildren’s inheritance.

Has she left money to your husband, your son could have ended up with all your husband’s inheritance and his children could have got nothing.

Dontknowwhyidoit · 31/05/2024 20:47

If they take the stance that your oldest in not family as there is no blood connection, then the same goes for you.

OhmygodDont · 31/05/2024 21:14

Dontknowwhyidoit · 31/05/2024 20:47

If they take the stance that your oldest in not family as there is no blood connection, then the same goes for you.

I mean that’s obvious in the way wives/husbands are dropped as soon as the divorce is on the way 😂

Family while together, invited out of politeness. Your held closer than the child, because ultimately your the adult, and they hope you won’t break their child’s heart,
where as the child is under the adult’s control to be here today gone tomorrow, should you decide to leave with no way of staying in contact with a minor even if they wanted too and built such a relationship.

My husbands nephews are his not mine. If we divorced I’d never see a single member of his family again bar our children’s events such as weddings. They are not my family. They are his.

PomPomtheGreat · 31/05/2024 23:33

EWAB · 31/05/2024 15:30

@PomPomtheGreat Will your bio grandchildren resent you for reducing their inheritance because you treated your step grandchildren the same as them?

My late mother-in-law told her niece that is why she left her money to her grandchildren and not her children so that my beautiful son her step grandson wouldn’t inherit by default.

I really hope not. My bio grandchildren will be raised by my bio children who think that it's fair and right to consider their brother's much loved children as family just as their own children are.

Grandchildren will all get a small amount each to help them start adult life. The rest goes to my children, so it's up to them how they leave their share when they go.

T1Dmama · 01/06/2024 19:48

ThoroughlyDisgruntled · 29/05/2024 18:53

Husband thinks it’s a coincidence and his mother would have told Sister-in-law about youngest after the date was chosen even though the timeline was obvious to me. He doesn’t see why they would have to invite her if she was seeing her dad anyway but sees why I am upset only as it will be a good occasion. He only thinks logically. He doesn’t think that his brother should have to think about eldest as they would have invited her if she wasn’t with her dad.

If it’s ‘just a party’ why can’t they fit one extra child in??
personally I wouldn’t go, let husband go alone or let him take the other 2!! But I’d be done with them all for this.. it’s shocking behaviour!

T1Dmama · 01/06/2024 19:54

TinyYellow · 30/05/2024 14:43

I don’t understand the extremity of some of these responses. OP your daughter is not being deliberately excluded from an event. In laws have just chosen a date that works for the people directly involved. It’s very entitled to expect them to develop their choice of dates around a step child’s contact schedule with their other parent.

You are minimising the value her father has in her life. If you dd sees him regularly then it is fair for your in laws to assume that her paternal family are fulfilling the role for her that they are providing for your younger children. They’d be overstepping if they thought their events were as important to your daughter as seeing her father is.

Did you miss the part where OP says SIL said she knew that weekend was the fathers weekend and hinted that it was deliberately booked while she wouldn’t be there?? Then said she couldn’t come when OP said she could swap weekends?!

T1Dmama · 01/06/2024 19:58

Confusednoodle1 · 30/05/2024 18:02

I think you need to speak to your DH about it.

I was the step child that never got invited to family events and it had a real impact on me that has taken years to get over.

It’s such a horrible feeling to grow up feeling unwanted and excluded, even as an adult and having my own child we were excluded from family events. It really did have a big impact on my relationship with my “step family”. I felt awkward seeing them over Christmas for example and used to get annoyed when my parents would invite them to my birthday meal etc. it was like I had to include them despite them always excluding me. I just always felt so uncomfortable.

It’s a really horrible position to be in. Yes families don’t have to “accept” step children but they shouldn’t be actively excluded. It’s cruel!

This @ThoroughlyDisgruntled !! You inlaws are arses and in your position I’d go no contact and just let DH take the kids round.
I wouldn’t let anyone treat my DD like this… she might not be family but you are and you and DD come as a package!

Nanaof1 · 06/06/2024 02:01

Since most all of them didn't bother when invited to your eldest DD's communion, you are under zero obligation to have you or any of your DC to attend this wedding celebration that deliberately excluded your eldest DD. I would continue to not attend, even if it means telling them, "My eldest will be home that weekend, so we are doing something as a FAMILY instead of attending your exclusionary gala". Then switch weekends with your ex, so you are telling the truth.

Maybe they won't GAS if you and the children don't attend, but at least you know and can sleep soundly, knowing that YOUR family is together. If your NVDH wants to go to his family's crap, let him go. He doesn't sound that cognizant of your DD's feelings.

Aimtodobetter · 06/11/2024 11:27

It would obviously be lovely if your DH's family embraced your eldest more, especially as I'm assuming with two siblings she has been DH's SD since she was quite small, and I do think its a bit mean spirited not to when she's still so young/has two half siblings who are their blood. However, you can't force them to see things that way and you could accidentally hurt your eldest by making a big deal of it. As long as DH treats your SD well and appropriately to their relationship I wouldn't worry too much about the in laws.

PicaK · 06/11/2024 11:29

Zombie thread

WellsAndThistles · 06/03/2025 13:03

Zombie thread - no idea how this appeared in my list. Sorry.

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